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Romeo Barrett

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now and this thread has been a lifesaver! Just want to add one thing that might help others - if you're using tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block, many of them have penalty calculators built in that can give you a rough estimate of what you'll owe before you file. It's not perfect, but it helped me mentally prepare for the damage and plan out how much I needed to set aside for a payment plan. The unknown was killing me with anxiety, but having even a ballpark figure made it feel more manageable. Also seconding what everyone said about filing immediately even if you can't pay - I finally did this yesterday and honestly felt a huge weight off my shoulders just knowing that 5% monthly penalty stopped ticking up. Now I just need to work up the courage to call about a payment plan!

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That's a great tip about using the penalty calculators in tax software! I never thought to check if TurboTax had that feature built in. You're so right that the unknown is the worst part - once you have actual numbers to work with, it becomes a problem you can solve instead of this scary unknown hanging over your head. Good for you on getting your return filed! That took real courage and you should feel proud of taking that step. The payment plan call is definitely intimidating, but based on what everyone else has shared in this thread, it sounds like the IRS agents are actually pretty helpful with getting those set up. You've already done the hardest part by filing - you've got this!

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Kaitlyn Otto

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I was in almost the exact same situation two years ago - filed an extension but completely forgot about the payment deadline until way after. The anxiety was overwhelming! Here's what I learned that might help: The penalties aren't as scary as they seem once you understand them. You're looking at 0.5% per month for failure-to-pay, plus interest (around 5% annually). If you file after your extension deadline, there's also a 5% monthly failure-to-file penalty, but it gets reduced to 4.5% when both apply (so 5% total monthly until you file). The most important thing: FILE YOUR RETURN IMMEDIATELY even if you can't pay what you owe. I made the mistake of waiting because I thought I needed to have the money ready first. Big mistake! That failure-to-file penalty is 10x worse than the failure-to-pay penalty. Once you file, call the IRS about setting up a payment plan. I was terrified to make that call, but the agent was actually really helpful and understanding. The setup fee is minimal compared to what you'll save by stopping those penalties from growing. Also, ask about "first time penalty abatement" if you've had a clean record for the past 3 years - they might waive the failure-to-pay penalty entirely, which could save you hundreds or even thousands depending on what you owe. Take action now and you'll feel so much better. The unknown is always worse than the reality!

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Help Decoding My IRS Transcript - Refund Freeze Since 2023, Examination Recently Closed, $10,500+ Credits Showing

I'm completely lost looking at my transcript. It's just a bunch of numbers and codes and I have no idea what any of them mean. Can someone help me figure out what I'm looking at and if my refund is coming soon? Starting to get worried because it's been a few months since I filed. Here's what my transcript shows: RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER) Apr. 15, 2023 PROCESSING DATE Apr. 09, 2024 TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed 20241205 04-09-2024 $0.00 76221-419-17943-3 810 Refund freeze 03-10-2023 $0.00 971 Amended tax return or claim 05-27-2023 $0.00 forwarded for processing 977 Amended return filed 05-27-2023 $0.00 43277-550-06373-3 971 Amended/duplicate tax return processed to wrong identifying number or tax p 202212 766 Credit to your account 04-16-2023 -$3,599.00 768 Earned income credit 04-16-2023 -$7,935.00 576 Refund held for review 04-09-2024 $1,020.00 971 Notice issued 04-09-2024 $0.00 420 Examination of tax return 03-23-2024 $0.00 577 Removed refund hold 04-09-2024 -$1,020.00 421 Closed examination of tax return 04-11-2024 $0.00 971 Notice issued 04-30-2024 $0.00 This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data I see all these codes like 971, 150, 766, etc., and I'm not sure what they mean. There's something about a refund freeze (code 810) from March last year and then something about an amended return in May? I also see "examination of tax return" (code 420) in March of this year that was closed in April (code 421). I notice there was a credit to my account of $3,599 and earned income credit of $7,935 from April 2023, but then I see "refund held for review" in April 2024 for $1,020 that was then removed. Does this mean I'm getting my refund soon? I'm so confused by all these dates and amounts. What's going on with my refund? Why has this taken almost a year to process? Any help deciphering this would be greatly appreciated!

This is exactly why I love this community - seeing everyone jump in to help decode these confusing transcripts! šŸ’Ŗ From what you've shared, it looks like you've been through quite the journey. That 810 freeze code from March 2023 plus the amended return (977) definitely explains why things took so long. The examination codes (420/421) show they did a thorough review but closed it in April, which is actually great news! Those credits totaling over $11k ($3,599 + $7,935) are substantial - no wonder the IRS wanted to take a closer look. With the examination closed and the refund hold removed (577 code), you're definitely in a much better position now. Keep an eye out for that 846 code everyone's mentioning - that's your golden ticket showing the refund has actually been issued with a date. Given where you are in the process, I'd expect to see movement soon. The worst part (the examination) is behind you! Stay strong - you've made it through the hardest part of this process! šŸ™Œ

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Thanks for breaking this down Emma! šŸ™ As someone new to this whole transcript thing, it's really reassuring to hear that the examination being closed is good news. I was honestly panicking when I saw all those codes - thought maybe I did something wrong on my taxes. The waiting has been brutal but knowing I'm past the worst part gives me hope. Really appreciate everyone in this community taking the time to help decode all this confusing IRS language!

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Ava Thompson

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This is such a relief to see someone else going through the same thing! I've been dealing with a similar situation - had a refund freeze last year and just went through an examination that finally closed a few weeks ago. Looking at your codes, you're actually in a really good spot! That 421 code showing your examination closed in April is huge - mine just closed and I can tell you the relief is real. The fact that they removed your refund hold (577) right after closing the exam is a great sign. Those credits you're seeing ($3,599 + $7,935) are legitimate and were processed back in April 2023, but the freeze kept them from being released. Now that everything's cleared, you should definitely be seeing an 846 code with a DDD (direct deposit date) soon. I know the waiting is absolutely brutal - I've been checking my transcript obsessively for months. But based on what I'm seeing here, you've cleared all the major hurdles. The IRS doesn't remove refund holds unless they're satisfied with their review. Hang in there - after almost two years of this process, you're finally at the finish line! šŸ¤žāœØ

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This gives me so much hope! šŸ™ I've been checking my transcript like every day and getting more anxious when I don't see changes. It's really helpful to hear from someone who just went through the same process. Two years feels like forever but if you made it through, maybe there's light at the end of the tunnel for me too. Did you get any advance notice before your 846 code showed up or did it just appear one day? Trying to manage my expectations here lol

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@Miguel Herrera For me, it literally just appeared overnight! I was checking every morning sometimes (twice a day let s'be real šŸ˜… and) one Tuesday it was just there - 846 code with a DDD for that Friday. No warning, no notice beforehand. The IRS moves in mysterious ways lol. But honestly after going through this whole process, I d'say once your examination closes and the hold is removed like yours has been, it s'usually just a matter of days to maybe 2 weeks max before the 846 drops. Keep checking but try not to stress yourself out too much - you re'so close! šŸ¤ž

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Derek Olson

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FYI - this is reported on Form 1040, line 1h (State and local income tax refund) and calculated on the "State and Local Income Tax Refund Worksheet" in the 1040 instructions. The worksheet specifically asks if you itemized deductions the previous year. If you answer "no" (meaning you took standard deduction), the taxable amount is $0. Both software should get this right but they present it differently in the interface.

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This is super helpful! It would be nice if tax software made this clearer. So basically it has to be reported but then gets calculated to $0 if you took standard deduction? That explains why it shows up in income initially.

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Natalie Wang

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with the exact same situation where my state tax refund is showing up differently between TurboTax and another tax software. After reading through all the explanations here, it's clear that both programs are likely calculating correctly - they just display the information differently in their interfaces. The key insight is that if you took the standard deduction last year (which most people did due to the higher amounts), your state tax refund isn't taxable at all, even though it has to be reported on the return initially. I think the real issue is that tax software could do a much better job explaining WHY certain numbers appear where they do. It would save taxpayers a lot of confusion if there was just a simple note saying "This refund appears as income but will be calculated as $0 taxable since you took the standard deduction last year." Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and knowledge - this community is a lifesaver during tax season!

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Yara Nassar

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Does anyone know if tax withholding timing matters for the safe harbor rule? Like if I have most of my withholding happen in Q4 because of a year-end bonus, does that still count toward the 110% rule or do I need to spread it evenly?

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For W-2 withholding, the timing doesn't matter - the IRS treats withholding as occurring evenly throughout the year even if it actually happens in a lump sum at year-end. So a big Q4 bonus withholding still helps you meet safe harbor for the entire year. But this only applies to actual withholding, not estimated payments. If you're making quarterly estimated payments, those need to be timely for each quarter.

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One thing to watch out for - if you're using the 110% safe harbor rule, make sure you're looking at the right year's return! I made this mistake last year where I was calculating based on my 2022 return when I should have been using my 2023 return for my 2024 estimated payments. Also, if you had any tax credits that reduced your total tax on line 24, those are already factored in. Don't try to add them back - the safe harbor calculation uses your final total tax amount after all credits have been applied. This tripped me up because I thought I needed to use some "before credits" number, but nope, line 24 is exactly what you need. The 110% rule has saved me so much stress since my freelance income is all over the place. Even when I have a huge income spike, I know I'm covered as long as I hit that safe harbor amount.

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Sean Murphy

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This is really helpful! I'm new to estimated taxes and was getting confused about which year's return to use. So just to confirm - for my 2025 estimated tax payments, I should be using my 2024 return (the one I'll file in early 2025) to calculate the 110% safe harbor amount, right? And then that protects me for the entire 2025 tax year even if my income jumps way up?

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Laila Prince

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As someone who just went through this exact situation a few months ago, I wanted to share my experience to hopefully ease your worries! I filed my taxes in January with direct deposit going to my checking account that was still under my maiden name (got married last year but kept putting off updating the account name). I panicked when I realized what I'd done, but after calling both my bank and doing some research, I learned that this is incredibly common. The banking system primarily matches deposits using your routing number, account number, and SSN - not the name on the account. My refund came through perfectly on schedule about 18 days after filing. No delays, no issues, no paper check needed. The bank representative told me they handle these name mismatch situations all the time and rarely reject deposits as long as the account numbers are correct and the SSN matches. Since you already confirmed with Credit Karma that your SSN is linked to the account, you should be all set! The fact that so many people in this thread have had successful outcomes with the same situation should give you confidence. Try not to stress too much - the system is designed to handle these common life situations like name changes after marriage.

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StarSurfer

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! As someone completely new to this community and dealing with tax issues after a name change, stories like yours are incredibly reassuring. I'm in almost the identical situation - got married recently and completely forgot about updating my bank account name before filing. The 18-day timeline you mentioned is really helpful to know. I filed about two weeks ago and have been anxiously checking Where's My Refund every day, but hearing that yours came through right on schedule gives me hope that mine will too. It's amazing how this seems to be such a common situation that I never even thought about until it happened to me! I really appreciate everyone in this community taking the time to share their experiences - it's making what felt like a huge scary problem seem much more manageable. @Laila Prince - did you have to do anything special with your bank account after receiving the deposit, or was everything handled automatically on their end?

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm brand new to this community and facing the exact same situation. Filed my taxes last month with direct deposit to my bank account that's still under my maiden name from before I got married in December. Like everyone else here, I had that moment of panic when I realized what I'd done, but reading through all these success stories has been incredibly reassuring. It's amazing how common this situation actually is - I had no idea! @Laila Prince Your 18-day timeline is really helpful to know. I m'at about the 10-day mark since filing and have been obsessively checking Where s'My Refund currently (shows being "processed .")Based on your experience and everyone else s'here, it sounds like I should expect to see movement soon. I called my bank yesterday to confirm my SSN is properly linked despite the name difference, and they confirmed everything looks good on their end. The representative mentioned they see this type of situation frequently, especially during tax season. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences - this community has been a lifesaver for someone new to navigating taxes after a major life change like marriage!

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Steven Adams

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Welcome to the community! As someone who's been through this exact situation, I can definitely relate to that panic moment when you realize the name mismatch after filing. From my experience and what I've seen in this community, you're actually in a very common situation that the system handles well. The key factors that work in your favor are: • Banks primarily match on routing/account numbers and SSN, not names • Credit Karma confirmed your SSN is properly linked to your account • The IRS processes millions of these situations annually without issues I went through something similar two years ago when I had an old joint account where my name was listed differently than on my tax return. The deposit went through smoothly in about 16 days. One thing that really helped my peace of mind was setting up mobile alerts for incoming deposits with my bank - that way I knew immediately when the refund arrived instead of constantly checking my account balance. Based on all the success stories shared here and the steps you've already taken to verify your account details, I'd say you're very likely to receive your direct deposit without any complications. The 21-day processing timeline should still apply normally in your case. Keep monitoring Where's My Refund, and try not to stress too much - this community has seen countless people navigate this exact situation successfully!

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