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Just wondering - have you looked into equity compensation restructuring? If a portion of that $1.1M is from stock options, RSUs or other equity comp, there are timing strategies that can make a huge difference. I saved nearly 6 figures last year by working with my employer to adjust my vesting schedule and exercise timing.
Given your income level, I'd strongly recommend looking into conservation easements if you own any land or are considering real estate investments. These can provide substantial tax deductions - sometimes 4-5x your investment - while preserving land for conservation purposes. Also, consider a defined benefit pension plan if you have any self-employment income or consulting work on the side. These allow much higher contributions than traditional 401ks - potentially $200k+ annually depending on your age and income. One strategy that's often overlooked is bunching deductions into alternate years. Since you're likely itemizing anyway, consider prepaying property taxes, state taxes (up to the SALT cap), and charitable donations in alternating years to maximize the benefit. Finally, if you're married, look into spousal IRA contributions and income-splitting strategies through family partnerships for any investment income. The key at your level is having multiple strategies working together rather than relying on any single approach.
These are some really advanced strategies I hadn't heard of before. The conservation easement idea sounds intriguing but also potentially risky - are there specific compliance requirements or audit risks I should be aware of? Also, regarding the defined benefit pension plan, wouldn't I need to have actual employees to make that work, or can it be set up for just myself if I have some consulting income on the side?
This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who just moved to the US and is filing taxes for the first time, I was completely overwhelmed by all the formatting requirements. I ended up going with parentheses for all my negative numbers after reading through the official IRS publications mentioned here. What really helped was printing out a draft copy of my return and going through it line by line to make sure I was consistent throughout all the forms. One thing I learned that might help other newcomers - if you're used to different accounting standards from your home country, the US system can feel confusing at first. In my country we always use minus signs, so switching to parentheses felt weird initially. But after using them consistently, it actually makes the forms much easier to read. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and resources. It's reassuring to know that even small formatting questions have such a supportive community willing to help out!
Welcome to the US tax system! Your approach of printing out a draft and checking line by line is really smart - I wish I had thought of that my first year. It's so easy to mix formats when you're switching between different forms. I totally understand the adjustment from minus signs to parentheses. Coming from a different country's system myself, the little formatting differences felt surprisingly important when you're already nervous about getting everything right. One tip that helped me - I kept a small note taped to my computer monitor that just said "USE PARENTHESES" while I was working on my taxes. Sounds silly, but it prevented me from defaulting back to what felt natural from my home country's system. Glad this community could help make your first US tax filing less stressful! The formatting will become second nature after a couple years.
This has been such a comprehensive discussion! As someone who works in tax preparation, I wanted to add a few practical points that might help future filers: If you're using tax software and still want to double-check your formatting, most programs have a "preview" or "form view" option that shows exactly how your return will look when printed or submitted. This is a great way to verify that negative numbers are formatted consistently before filing. Also, for those worried about rejection due to formatting - in my experience, the IRS automated processing systems are quite forgiving with minor formatting variations. Returns are much more likely to be flagged for mathematical errors, missing signatures, or incorrect SSNs than for using minus signs vs. parentheses. That said, following the standard conventions (parentheses for paper forms, letting software handle electronic filing) is always the safest approach. When in doubt, consistency within your own return is more important than perfect adherence to any single format standard. Great job everyone sharing resources and experiences - this kind of community support makes tax season so much less intimidating for newcomers!
What software does everyone recommend for high-income tax situations? I've been using TurboTax Premier but wondering if there's something better for managing more complex investments and deductions?
I switched from TurboTax to a combination of TaxAct for initial preparation and then have a CPA review. Saves me about 60% on prep fees but still gives professional oversight. For high income with investments, I wouldn't self-file without at least a review.
I'm a tax attorney and see these schemes regularly. What you're describing is almost certainly a syndicated conservation easement or similar abusive tax shelter. The IRS has these on their "Dirty Dozen" list and actively pursues participants with penalties that can exceed the claimed tax savings. The key red flags: 1) 4:1 or 5:1 deduction ratios, 2) vague explanations about the mechanics, 3) promises of 80% tax reduction, and 4) high-pressure sales tactics emphasizing secrecy or exclusivity. Real tax planning for high earners involves maximizing retirement contributions, strategic charitable giving, tax-loss harvesting, proper business entity selection, and timing strategies. These provide meaningful but realistic benefits - maybe 15-25% reduction in effective tax rate through legitimate means. I strongly recommend getting a second opinion from an independent CPA or tax attorney before proceeding. The IRS settlements I've seen from these schemes often result in participants paying more in penalties and interest than they originally "saved" in taxes.
Thank you for the legal perspective! As someone new to higher income brackets, this is exactly the kind of professional insight I needed. The fact that penalties can exceed the "savings" is terrifying. When you mention getting a second opinion from an independent CPA, how do I make sure they're truly independent and not also trying to sell me investment products? I'm worried about getting caught between competing sales pitches disguised as professional advice.
I'm in a similar boat right now - filed 2/5 and just completed identity verification yesterday after getting the letter. The "up to 9 weeks" message is definitely intimidating, especially when you're already over a month into the process. Reading through everyone's experiences here is actually really helpful though. It sounds like most people see movement well before that 9-week mark, with 3-6 weeks being more typical after verification. I'm going to start following the Friday morning transcript checking routine that several people mentioned. For what it's worth, I also verified online rather than by phone, so hopefully that helps speed things along. The confirmation page I got was identical to yours - same language about 9 weeks and checking after 2-3 weeks. I really hope you see some movement soon, especially with the medical bills situation. That kind of financial pressure makes the waiting so much more stressful. Keeping my fingers crossed that we both get good news in the coming weeks!
It's so helpful to connect with others going through the exact same timeline! Filed 2/5 and just verified yesterday puts you almost exactly where I am. The online verification definitely seems to be the faster route based on what everyone's sharing here. I'm feeling more optimistic after reading all these experiences - seems like the 9 weeks is really just their worst-case scenario and most people are seeing resolution in that 3-6 week range. The Friday morning transcript checking schedule seems to be the golden rule everyone follows. Fingers crossed we both get some good updates soon! The waiting game is rough but at least we're not alone in it.
I went through identity verification about 6 months ago and can totally relate to that anxiety, especially when you need the money for family medical expenses. In my case, it took exactly 4 weeks from verification to getting my refund deposited. Here's what I learned from the experience: - The transcript updates are your best friend - WMR is pretty unreliable during this process - Friday morning checks around 6 AM EST are when you'll see changes - Look for code 570 (additional account action pending) first, then 571 (additional account action completed), and finally 846 (refund issued) - The 9-week timeline is definitely their worst-case scenario - I haven't seen anyone in the forums actually hit that full timeline One thing that really helped me was understanding that after identity verification, they sometimes do an additional review of your return, which can add time but isn't necessarily a bad thing. Since you verified online (which is faster than phone/mail), you should hopefully see movement in the next 2-3 weeks. For the medical bills situation, definitely look into payment plans or financial assistance programs with the providers while you wait. Many are surprisingly flexible, especially for family caregiving situations. Hang in there - based on the timeline of when you filed and verified, you should hopefully see some transcript movement soon!
This is really helpful, thank you! The breakdown of the specific codes to look for makes me feel much more prepared for what's coming. It's reassuring to hear that 4 weeks was your timeline since that's way better than the scary 9-week estimate they give. I'm definitely going to start the Friday morning transcript checking routine and look into payment plan options for the medical bills while I wait. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience and the practical advice!
Ava Garcia
Has anyone tried bunching charitable deductions? With the higher standard deduction ($29,200 for married filing jointly in 2024), we've started doing this where we donate 2-3 years worth of charitable contributions in a single year so we can itemize that year, then take the standard deduction in the off years. We're also looking into donor-advised funds where you can get the tax deduction immediately but distribute the actual charitable gifts over time. Anyone have experience with these strategies?
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ā¢We've been doing the bunching strategy for 3 years now and it works really well. We donate to our church and various charities in January and December of the same year, then nothing the next year. Increases our deduction by about $6,500 in the "on" years. Never tried a donor-advised fund though - seems like it might have fees that eat into the benefit?
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Zainab Ali
One strategy you might be overlooking is a backdoor Roth IRA conversion. Since your MAGI is over $146K and you can't deduct traditional IRA contributions, you could still contribute $7,000 to a non-deductible traditional IRA, then immediately convert it to a Roth IRA. This won't reduce your current tax liability, but it's tax-free growth for retirement. Also, since you mentioned having kids, make sure you're getting the full Child Tax Credit ($2,000 per child under 17). The credit phases out at higher incomes but doesn't start until $400K for married filing jointly. Another option: If your employer offers a cafeteria plan or flexible spending account beyond just healthcare, you might be able to redirect some compensation to pre-tax benefits like commuter benefits, life insurance premiums, or dependent care assistance. Finally, consider timing any major purchases or medical expenses. If you're close to the 7.5% AGI threshold for medical deductions, you might bunch medical expenses into one year to exceed the threshold.
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Lena Kowalski
ā¢Great point about the backdoor Roth IRA! I'm in a similar income situation and have been hesitant to do this because I heard about something called the "pro-rata rule" - if you already have money in traditional IRAs, doesn't that complicate the conversion? I have about $15K in an old traditional IRA from a previous employer that I never rolled over to my 401k. Would I need to convert all of it to make the backdoor Roth work properly? Also, for the medical expense bunching strategy you mentioned - are there any timing restrictions on when you can schedule things like dental work or elective procedures to maximize the tax benefit?
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