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Dmitri Volkov

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Has anyone used Sprintax for this situation? My university gives us free access to it for federal returns (still have to pay for state) and they claim they handle tax treaty situations for international students.

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I used Sprintax last year for a similar situation. It handled the basic 1042-S reporting and some treaty provisions, but I found it lacking for more complex situations. It worked ok for the federal return but didn't give me any guidance for how to handle reporting the same income on my Canadian tax return.

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NebulaNova

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As a Canadian who went through this exact situation during my PhD, I can confirm that the 14% withholding is standard but you'll likely get a significant portion back when you file. The key is understanding that Canada and the US have different definitions of what constitutes taxable income for students. In my case, I was able to recover about 70% of the withholding because my actual US tax liability was much lower. The US-Canada tax treaty Article XX provides specific exemptions for students, and portions of your stipend may qualify for reduced taxation. Here's my practical advice: 1) Keep detailed records of exactly what your stipend covers (tuition remission vs. living expenses vs. research work) as this affects taxation, 2) File Form 1040NR (not 1040) to maintain non-resident status and access treaty benefits, 3) When filing in Canada, you'll report the US income but can claim foreign tax credits to avoid double taxation. The Canadian tax exemption for PhD stipends typically applies to amounts that would be considered scholarships or fellowships, not compensation for teaching/research services. Make sure you understand how your university classifies your funding as this determines your tax treatment in both countries.

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IRS 4464C Letter - Understanding Code 570 & 60-Day Review with Potential $1,365 Refund Pending

Just got a letter in the mail from the IRS (4464C) saying they need another 60 days to review my return. Checked my transcripts today and finally seeing some movement but these codes are like reading hieroglyphics. Anyone know what I'm looking at and if this means good news or more delays? I'm married filing jointly with 2 exemptions. Our AGI is $56,809.00 with a taxable income of $29,109.00. Our tax per return is showing as $3,835.00. When I look at the transactions section of my transcript, I can see: TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed 20241605 05-06-2024 $3,835.00 79211-429-31792-4 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding 04-15-2024 -$5,200.00 570 Additional account action pending 05-06-2024 $ The processing date shows as May 06, 2024, which I assume is when they started reviewing my return. I notice there's a code 570 for "Additional account action pending" which I'm guessing relates to the 60-day review letter. Our return due date (or received date) was Apr. 15, 2024. Our SE taxable income for both me and my spouse is $0.00 with total self-employment tax of $0.00. Does the code 570 mean they found a problem? And what's the deal with the withholding amount (-$5,200.00) versus our tax amount ($3,835.00)? Does this mean we're getting a refund eventually? I'm just trying to figure out if this is good news or if I should be preparing for a long wait or potential issues.

Anyone else notice they always send these letters right when you're about to hit the 21 day mark? Its like clockwork at this point πŸ’€

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YES! Every single time! They wait til the last possible moment πŸ™„

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Code 570 just means they're holding your refund while they review - it's not necessarily bad news! Based on your numbers ($5,200 withholding vs $3,835 tax), you should be getting around $1,365 back once they finish their review. The 60-day letter is pretty standard when they need to verify W-2s or other income documents. Just gotta be patient unfortunately, but your refund looks solid! πŸ’ͺ

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Aisha Khan

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You might want to consider filing Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2) if your employer is unresponsive or unable to correct the issue. This form essentially allows you to provide the IRS with the correct wage information when your employer hasn't properly reported it. In most cases, though not all, the IRS will eventually resolve this through their automated systems once the employer files the correct information. However, it's generally beneficial, if somewhat time-consuming, to be proactive rather than waiting for the automated processes to complete. Also, you may qualify for taxpayer advocate assistance if this delay is causing significant financial hardship. They can sometimes expedite resolution in cases where standard processes are taking too long.

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! My employer from last year apparently never filed my W-2 with the SSA, and I've been stuck in this 60-day review since February. What's been most frustrating is that I have all my documentation - W-2, pay stubs, everything - but the IRS system shows zero wages from that employer. I called the employer three times and they keep saying they'll "look into it" but nothing has happened. After reading through these responses, I think I need to be more aggressive about getting my employer to file the corrected W-2c form. Has anyone had success getting their employer to prioritize this by mentioning the potential penalties they could face for late filing? I'm wondering if that might motivate them to actually take action. Also, for those who mentioned Form 4852 - did you file this in addition to waiting for your employer to correct their filing, or instead of waiting for them? I'm trying to figure out if I should pursue both paths simultaneously.

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Ellie Kim

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation right now! I forgot to include about 3 months of unemployment compensation when I filed in February. Just got my 1099-G in the mail last week and realized my mistake. I've been putting off handling this because I'm terrified of dealing with the IRS, but reading through all these responses is really helpful. It sounds like filing an amended return is pretty standard and not as scary as I thought it would be. One question - if I already received my federal refund but haven't gotten my state refund yet, should I contact the state to let them know an amendment is coming? Or just file the state amendment and let them figure it out? I'm in California if that makes a difference. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it's really reassuring to know I'm not the only one who made this mistake!

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Noah Irving

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I'm going through this exact same situation right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I was unemployed for about 5 months last year and completely spaced on including it when I filed in January. Just like you, I was so focused on getting my refund quickly that I totally forgot about the unemployment income. I've been avoiding dealing with this for weeks because I was terrified of the IRS, but reading everyone's experiences here has really calmed my nerves. It sounds like filing an amended return is pretty straightforward and the fact that we're catching our own mistakes actually works in our favor. I'm planning to use my tax software to handle the amendment since I'm definitely not confident doing the calculations manually. Has anyone had experience with FreeTaxUSA for amendments? That's what I used for my original return and I'm hoping they have a decent amendment feature. Thanks to everyone who shared their stories - it's such a relief to know this is a common mistake and not something that's going to ruin my life! Now I just need to stop procrastinating and actually file the thing.

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I haven't used FreeTaxUSA specifically for amendments, but most of the major tax software platforms have pretty decent amendment features these days. The key is that they can usually import your original return data and then walk you through what needs to be changed, which takes a lot of the guesswork out of the process. Since you already used FreeTaxUSA for your original return, I'd definitely start there - they should be able to pull up your filed return and guide you through adding the unemployment income. If for some reason their amendment feature isn't great, you could always try one of the other tools people mentioned here like taxr.ai. You're absolutely right that procrastinating is the worst part! Once you actually sit down and do it, you'll probably find it's way less scary than you've been imagining. The fact that you're taking care of this voluntarily really does work in your favor, so don't stress too much about it.

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Logan Scott

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fun fact: the cycle codes have been around since the 1960s when they first computerized the irs system. talk about legacy tech πŸ˜‚

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Lindsey Fry

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Cycle code 04 means your return gets processed on Wednesdays, but don't stress too much about the exact timing. I've been tracking mine for years and sometimes they batch process things a day early or late depending on volume. The key thing is that once you see a 846 refund issued code on your transcript, your money usually hits your account within 1-3 business days regardless of cycle code. Just keep checking every few days rather than obsessing over the exact schedule!

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