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Adaline Wong

22YO Married Filing Taxes - Can't Claim Education Credit for College?

Seriously frustrated right now. My husband and I are both 22, got married last summer, and we're trying to do our taxes together for the first time. I'm a full-time student at State University and paid about $7,800 in qualified education expenses last year. When I was putting everything into TurboTax, I was expecting to get the American Opportunity Tax Credit like I did when I filed as single last year, but it's saying we don't qualify because our combined income is too high?? We made around $84,000 together last year (I worked part-time, he works full-time). Nobody told me that getting married would screw us out of education credits! We were counting on getting that credit to help pay for next semester. The phaseout apparently starts at $80,000 for married filing jointly. Has anyone else dealt with this? Is there anything we can do to still qualify for some kind of education credit? Maybe the Lifetime Learning Credit instead? Or should we have filed separately? This is so frustrating.

Gabriel Ruiz

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You've run into what's sometimes called the "marriage penalty" with education credits. For the American Opportunity Tax Credit (AOTC), the income phaseout for married filing jointly begins at $80,000 and completely phases out at $180,000. Since your combined income is $84,000, you're just into the phaseout range, so you should still qualify for a partial credit. The Lifetime Learning Credit has similar phaseout ranges for married couples filing jointly. Filing separately might seem like a solution, but unfortunately, if you're married filing separately, you're completely ineligible for both the AOTC and Lifetime Learning Credit - it's one of the few filing statuses that specifically disqualifies you from these education credits. Your best option is to look for ways to reduce your Adjusted Gross Income. Do either of you contribute to retirement accounts? Increasing traditional IRA or 401(k) contributions could potentially lower your AGI enough to qualify for more of the credit.

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Wait, so even if they file separately they can't get the credit at all? That seems so unfair. What about deducting student loan interest - does that have the same marriage penalty?

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Gabriel Ruiz

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The student loan interest deduction also has restrictions for married filing separately status - you can't claim it at all if you file separately. The income phaseout for that deduction is also lower for married couples than for singles. Contributing to a Health Savings Account (HSA) if you're eligible is another good strategy to lower your AGI. Student loan interest payments (up to $2,500) can also reduce your AGI if you're below the income limits for that deduction.

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Peyton Clarke

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Vince Eh

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How does that tool work exactly? I'm also married and we're both in school. Do you just upload your tax forms or what?

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Is this just another paid tax service? We already paid for TurboTax, not looking to shell out more money just to get what we're entitled to...

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Peyton Clarke

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Vince Eh

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Just wanted to update everyone - I tried that taxr.ai site that was recommended here. I was honestly shocked at what it found. Turns out my qualified education expenses could be partially allocated differently to maximize the remaining credit I was eligible for. It also pointed out that since I had some self-employment income from a side gig, I could make a SEP IRA contribution that would lower our AGI enough to qualify for more of the education credit. We're getting about $1,100 more back than what TurboTax originally calculated for us. The analysis took about 10 minutes and it gave me a detailed report I could use to adjust my TurboTax return.

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Ezra Beard

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Wait this actually works? How do they keep your place in line? I've been trying to call the IRS for 3 weeks about education credits on an amended return.

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Have you guys looked into whether you qualify for the student loan interest deduction as well? That's separate from the education credits and has a higher income limit. You can deduct up to $2,500 in student loan interest payments if your MAGI is under $170,000 for married filing jointly. Also, make sure you're counting all qualified education expenses: tuition, required fees, course materials you were required to buy from the school. Sometimes people miss the required materials part.

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Adaline Wong

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We don't have any student loans yet - been trying to pay as we go, which is why losing that education credit hit so hard. But that's good to know about the deduction having higher income limits if we do need loans next year. I didn't realize required course materials could count! So like textbooks and stuff? My school gives itemized receipts for everything, so I should be able to count those too?

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Yes, required textbooks and course materials can count as qualified education expenses! The key word is "required" - they need to be necessary for enrollment or attendance at your educational institution. Your school's itemized receipts will be perfect for documenting these expenses. Just make sure you only include materials that were genuinely required for your courses. Optional study guides or supplemental materials typically don't qualify.

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Aria Khan

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Random question - has anyone tried filing as Married Filing Separately to get around the education credit income limits? My wife and I are in a similar situation and wondering if that would help.

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Everett Tutum

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DON'T do MFS! You completely lose eligibility for education credits when filing separately. Plus you lose a bunch of other benefits too (student loan interest deduction, higher standard deduction rates, etc). Usually MFS ends up costing more in lost credits than you'd save.

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