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Andre Dupont

Premium Tax Credit repayment from 1095-A when filing jointly after marriage

So I'm in a bit of a bind with our taxes this year. My husband and I got married in September 2023, and now we're dealing with a surprise tax issue. From January through December, he had health insurance through our state marketplace with an advance premium tax credit of $315 per month (totaling $3,780 for the year) based on his income of around $25,000. We're using TurboTax to file jointly for 2023, and our combined household income is about $120,000. After entering the information from his 1095-A, the software is saying we need to repay the ENTIRE premium tax credit! I tried calculating what would happen if he filed separately as single, and in that scenario, he wouldn't have to repay any of it. So it seems like this repayment is happening because we're now considered one household. Is there any way to separate my income from his for just the Premium Tax Credit calculation? I found something about an alternative calculation for Form 8962 that might let us split the household income for the period before we got married, but even with that, we're still looking at a $3,000 repayment. Are we just out of luck because we decided to file jointly? Any advice would be really appreciated!

You've run into what many newlyweds discover - the "marriage penalty" as it relates to the Premium Tax Credit (PTC). Unfortunately, when you file jointly, the IRS looks at your total household income for determining PTC eligibility. The alternative calculation for married taxpayers on Form 8962 is exactly what you should look into. This allows you to allocate the premiums and APTC (Advance Premium Tax Credit) before your marriage. For the months before you were married, you can allocate 100% of the premiums and APTC to your husband. For months after marriage, you must use your joint income. The reason you're still seeing a significant repayment is that your combined income likely exceeds 400% of the Federal Poverty Level, which means you're not eligible for any PTC for the months after marriage. Your filing status decision should consider more than just the PTC repayment. Filing separately might save on the PTC repayment but could cost you in other tax benefits that are only available to joint filers.

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If they file separately, wouldn't they lose other tax benefits though? I heard filing separately makes you ineligible for things like education credits and the earned income credit. Can they tell us what the actual income threshold is for the PTC before you have to repay it? Also, if they do this alternative calculation thing, would they still qualify for the months before marriage?

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You're absolutely right about losing other tax benefits when filing separately. Married filing separately disqualifies you from several valuable tax benefits including the Earned Income Credit, education credits like the American Opportunity Credit, the student loan interest deduction, and often reduces your ability to contribute to IRAs. For 2023, the PTC eligibility threshold is 400% of the Federal Poverty Level, which for a household of 2 would be about $73,240. With a combined income of $120,000, you're well above this threshold for the months after marriage, which is why you're seeing such a large repayment amount even with the alternative calculation.

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Mei Lin

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I'm confused about how this helps with the 400% FPL issue. If their combined income is $120k and that's over the threshold, wouldn't they still have to repay everything for the months after marriage regardless of how the calculation is done? Does this service find some kind of loophole I'm missing?

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It doesn't file for you - it's more like an analysis tool that reviews your tax documents and identifies issues or opportunities. You still use your regular tax software, but with better information. For your July marriage, it would be especially helpful since you'd need to properly allocate for two distinct half-year periods. For the 400% FPL issue, you're right that for months after marriage, being over the threshold is problematic. However, what the service helped me discover was that my actual "household income" calculation was incorrect. There are certain income types that can be excluded or adjusted when calculating MAGI specifically for PTC purposes. In my case, some retirement contributions and health insurance premiums were reducing my MAGI enough to stay under the threshold for some months.

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I can't believe I'm saying this but that Claimyr service actually worked. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it because I was desperate for answers about my own PTC repayment situation. Not only did I get connected to an IRS representative in about 35 minutes (I had previously wasted DAYS trying to get through), but the agent walked me through exactly how to handle the Premium Tax Credit when my income increased mid-year. They explained the alternative calculation for Form 8962 and confirmed I was eligible to use it. The IRS rep also told me about a special rule for marketplace insurance that my tax software didn't mention - if your repayment amount would cause financial hardship, you can request a waiver or reduction of the repayment in certain circumstances. This might not apply to everyone, but it's worth knowing about if you're facing a huge unexpected tax bill.

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Just to add another perspective - my wife and I were in a similar situation last year but with a slightly lower income ($105k combined). We decided to file separately even though we lost some tax benefits. My wife claimed the PTC since the insurance was in her name, and I took most of the other deductions/credits. In our calculation, filing separately saved us about $1,600 even after losing some credits. It's definitely worth running the numbers both ways (jointly and separately) to see which is better in your specific situation. One important note: if you do file separately, the spouse with the marketplace insurance must claim all of the policy for PTC purposes. You can't split the policy between separate returns.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you have to do anything special when filing separately to make sure your wife could still claim the full PTC? Our tax software seems to be pushing us toward filing jointly, but I'm wondering if we should look at separate options more seriously.

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I didn't have to do anything special - my wife just filed her return with the 1095-A information and Form 8962. The main thing is that she had to use only her income for the PTC calculation, which kept her under the threshold. Most tax software will push you toward filing jointly because it's usually the better option for most couples. What I did was create returns both ways (jointly and separately) without submitting, then compared the final tax amounts. Even though we lost the student loan interest deduction and had to take a smaller standard deduction, the PTC savings outweighed those losses in our specific situation.

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If you're going to file separately to try to save on the PTC repayment, be aware of these downsides: - No student loan interest deduction - No Lifetime Learning Credit - No Earned Income Credit - Reduced IRA contribution limits - Lower capital loss deduction limit - Lower standard deduction than joint filing - Higher tax rates kick in at lower income levels - Child and dependent care credit limitations I'm a tax preparer and often see couples who think filing separately will save them money, but end up paying MORE overall because they lose so many benefits. Run the full calculation both ways before deciding!

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Thanks for the comprehensive list! I'm wondering though, for married filing separately, can one spouse still itemize deductions if the other takes the standard deduction? I heard the rule changed with the 2018 tax law.

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As someone who went through this exact situation last year, I'd strongly recommend running the numbers both ways before deciding on your filing status. The alternative calculation on Form 8962 is definitely your friend here - it allows you to split the year based on your marriage date. For the 8 months before marriage (January-August), your husband can use his individual income of $25,000 for PTC calculations. For September-December, you'll need to use the combined $120,000 income, which will likely trigger repayment for those months since you're well over the 400% FPL threshold. One thing to consider that others haven't mentioned - if your husband had qualifying life events during the year (like the marriage), he should have reported this to the marketplace to adjust the APTC going forward. Since that didn't happen, you're dealing with the reconciliation now. Also worth noting: the repayment cap might apply to your situation if your income is between 200-400% of FPL for any portion of the year. For 2023, this cap could limit your repayment to around $1,550-$2,800 depending on your exact circumstances. Don't let TurboTax be your only calculation - consider getting the forms and doing the math manually or with a tax professional who specializes in ACA issues. The software sometimes misses nuances in these complex situations.

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This is really helpful information! I'm curious about the repayment cap you mentioned - how exactly does that work when you have a mid-year marriage like this? Does the cap apply to the entire year or just the months when their income was under 400% FPL? Also, when you say "doing the math manually," are there specific IRS worksheets or publications that walk through these complex ACA calculations step by step?

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