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Will I qualify for unemployment with California EDD after being laid off mid-year?

Got laid off two weeks ago from my warehouse job where I'd been working for about 14 months. My employer said the whole department was being eliminated due to budget cuts, so this wasn't a performance thing at all. Filed my application through myEDD (https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/) last Friday and now I'm just sitting here wondering will I qualify for unemployment or if there's something that could disqualify me even though I was let go through no fault of my own. I earned decent wages over the past year, nothing crazy but steady paychecks every two weeks. The thing that's making me nervous is I don't fully understand how EDD figures out if you're eligible or not. Do they look at how much you made? How long you worked? Whether your employer fights it? I've been reading stuff online but getting conflicting answers everywhere. Anyone who's been through a layoff situation with California EDD recently, what should I expect?

Layoff from a department elimination is about the cleanest situation you can bring to EDD - no fault of your own, no misconduct angle, employer can't really argue otherwise. The main thing they look at for basic eligibility is your earnings over what they call the base period, which covers the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before your claim starts. You need at least $1,300 in your single best quarter, or if your best quarter was at least $900, your total base period wages need to be 1.25 times that. Fourteen months of steady warehouse work almost certainly gets you there. Your weekly benefit amount comes from that highest-earning quarter and falls somewhere between $40 and $450. EDD has a calculator on their site where you can plug in your quarterly earnings and get an estimate before the official paperwork arrives.

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The base period thing is new to me - so they're not looking at my most recent paychecks necessarily? My hours got cut a bit in the last couple months before the layoff so that's what had me worried.

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Right, the standard base period actually skips your most recent quarter on purpose - it uses the four before that. So if your hours were cut recently, those lower paychecks might fall in a quarter that isn't even counted in the standard calculation. The earlier quarters with your fuller hours could be what determines your weekly amount.

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14 months of warehouse work is plenty, you should be fine

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EDD also notifies your last employer when you file. They get a form called the DE 1101CZ and have 10 days from the date on it to respond if they want to say anything. For a straight department elimination layoff, most employers just confirm the facts and that's that. But it's worth knowing the employer is in the loop from the start.

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Does that mean my employer could try to fight it even though they're the ones who laid me off?

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An employer can respond to EDD's notice, but EDD is the one who makes the actual decision - no employer gets to just deny a claim on their own. For a budget-cut layoff where the whole department got cut, there's really nothing for them to dispute.

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my old job tried to mess with my claim after a layoff and edd still approved me, took a few extra weeks but it worked out

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DE 429Z came in the mail about two weeks after I filed my own claim last spring - that's the notice that tells you what your weekly benefit amount will be. Mine showed $312 a week based on my wages. When I filed I actually wasn't sure whether I'd even get anything because I had a gap in my work history, so I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an EDD agent on the phone. The agent looked at my claim record and confirmed which quarters were showing up in the base period and whether my wages hit the minimum. Claimyr's video on reaching a live person at EDD is at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - it was helpful to actually understand what was happening with my specific numbers before the paperwork arrived.

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That's actually really useful - I had no idea there was a specific notice coming that would spell out the weekly amount. Did the agent say anything about how long approval takes after that?

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The agent told me the DE 429Z is separate from the actual eligibility decision - it just shows what the claim could pay. The real answer on whether you're approved comes through when payments start processing for the weeks you've certified. Plan on about three weeks from when you filed for things to get moving.

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good tip, the de 429z confused me too when i got mine, thought it meant i was approved already

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Something people miss when they first file: you have to register in CalJOBS and get a resume posted within 21 days of the date on the notice EDD sends you about it (the DE 8405). Miss that window and payments can get held up. EDD tells you if you're somehow exempt but most claimants need to do it. The site is caljobs.ca.gov and it's pretty straightforward to set up a profile and upload a resume even if it's been a while since you've needed one.

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Twenty-one days from the notice date, got it. What happens if someone doesn't get the notice in time and misses the deadline?

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The notice comes pretty quickly after you file, usually within the first couple weeks. If you're watching for it and jump on CalJOBS registration right away you won't be cutting it close. The 21 days gives you a decent runway if you act on it when the mail arrives.

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CalJOBS is annoying to navigate but honestly just get the resume up there and don't overthink the rest of it

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i didn't know about this requirement my first time filing and my payments stopped, took me calling edd to figure out what happened

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While you're waiting, the first certification usually covers two weeks - your unpaid waiting week plus your first week of actual benefits. Everyone has that one waiting week at the start, it's just how the program works, you don't get paid for it but you do have to certify it. After that it's certifying every two weeks going forward, either through UI Online or by phone on EDD's Tele-Cert line. The Claim History section of UI Online will show each week's status and you'll see Pending there until EDD has processed everything.

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So the very first week is always unpaid no matter what? Even if the layoff was clearly not my fault?

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Every single claim has that one unpaid week, yes - it doesn't change based on why you were laid off or anything else about your situation. It's just a standard feature of how California unemployment works. The good news is it doesn't reduce your total benefit amount, it's more like a first week you serve before the payments kick in.

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Yep had the same question when I filed, thought maybe layoffs were treated differently but nope, everyone waits that first week

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For the work search part - once you're approved and certifying, EDD requires that you're actively looking for work every week you claim. Keep track of where you're applying because if EDD ever asks about your work search activities you want to have that documentation ready. Warehouse and logistics jobs tend to have decent openings right now so you shouldn't have too much trouble showing genuine search activity.

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Do I need to report my work search contacts directly to EDD somehow, like log them into UI Online?

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When you certify you answer questions about your work search and availability - EDD doesn't have a specific log you submit each time, but being able to show where you applied if asked is a good habit. Keep a simple list with dates, company names and how you applied.

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i just kept a spreadsheet, never got audited but felt better having it

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WAIT - are you sure you filed an application or just an account on myEDD?? I see people mix these up ALL THE TIME. Creating the myEDD account is not the same thing as actually submitting a claim. You should have gotten a confirmation screen after the actual application and then a confirmation number. If you're not sure check under your UI Online account - there should be a Claim History section showing your claim. If there's nothing there you might not have actually filed yet!!

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Oh that actually scared me for a second - I do remember getting a confirmation number and I can see something in my Claim History so I think I'm good. But that's a really important thing to check.

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Okay good!! The Claim History showing up means the claim was actually filed. I just see this mistake so much it's worth double checking every time someone mentions filing.

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this is such a good thing to flag, my neighbor thought she had filed for months and actually hadn't

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The claim date also matters because your benefit year starts on the Sunday of the week you applied - so the date you actually submitted is the official start of everything.

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My layoff last year was also a department restructuring and EDD approved it no problem. The thing that slowed me down was the identity verification step - EDD uses ID.me now and you have to create an account there, take a photo of your ID, and let them share it with EDD. If that step isn't done the whole claim sits until it is. Worth doing that right away if you haven't already.

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I actually did the ID.me thing during the application process, it walked me through it. Seemed to go through okay.

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If you completed it during the application flow you're probably set. Some people get a form in the mail called the DE 1326C asking them to verify their identity separately, usually if EDD couldn't confirm it during the online process. If that shows up don't ignore it.

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ID.me tripped me up because I didn't have a good enough photo, had to retry a few times

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Genuinely curious question - my situation is a bit different and I want to make sure I understand. My hours got cut to under 20 a week instead of a full layoff. Will I qualify for unemployment with a partial hours situation, or does EDD only help people who are completely out of work?

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Partial hours situations can absolutely be claimed - you'd report your actual earnings each time you certify and EDD applies a formula where the first $25 or 25 percent of your weekly gross (whichever is bigger) doesn't count against you, and the rest gets subtracted from your weekly benefit amount. So you can still get a partial payment on weeks you're working reduced hours.

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That's really helpful, so it's not all or nothing. I'll go ahead and file and report exactly what I earn each week.

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Just to add - for a partial hours situation, reopen or file a claim and then each certification just accurately reflects what you earned that week. The earnings formula kicks in automatically.

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Does anyone know if severance pay affects whether will I qualify for unemployment? My friend told me if you get severance you can't file until it runs out but that doesn't sound right to me.

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Your friend has it mixed up - severance paid under a company plan or policy isn't counted as wages for California UI purposes, so getting severance doesn't block you from filing or delay when your claim starts. You do still need to report it when you certify since EDD asks about it, and EDD makes the final call on how it applies to your specific situation. But the common belief that severance makes you wait to file just isn't how it works here.

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Oh wow okay that's completely different from what I thought. So I should have filed already instead of waiting this whole time??

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File now - your claim starts from the Sunday of the week you apply, not from when your job ended. Every week you waited without filing is a week you can't go back and collect.

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The phone interview thing tripped me up when I first filed after a layoff and I thought it meant something was wrong. If EDD schedules one for you, the notice they send (DE 4800) will have the date and time, and that same time shows up on your UI Online homepage. The interviewer phones you at that scheduled time so keep your phone free and nearby. Missing it causes real problems - payments can be delayed or denied if EDD has to decide without talking to you.

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Should I expect a phone interview for a straightforward layoff? Or is that only when there's a question about why you left?

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Typically interviews are scheduled when someone quit or was fired, or when there's some other eligibility question EDD needs to sort out. A clean budget-cut layoff where the whole department was eliminated might not trigger one at all. But if you do get a DE 4800 in the mail, take it seriously.

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I got scheduled for one after a layoff because my end date was a bit unusual - turned out to be fine, I just answered their questions honestly

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UI Online Payments section is the place to watch once things get moving - that's where you'll actually see when money is processed and headed to your card. EDD uses Money Network prepaid debit cards as the default, or you can switch to direct deposit in myEDD. Payments often show up pretty quickly after you certify online.

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Can I switch to direct deposit right away or do I need to wait until after I get approved?

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You can set up or change your payment method in myEDD without needing to wait for the first payment. Better to do it early so it's ready whenever the first payment processes.

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Direct deposit is what I went with, one less thing to worry about with the card

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Question for anyone who knows - my cousin said you only get unemployment benefits for like 6 months total, is that true? And do weeks keep counting even during the waiting period stuff?

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The 26-week maximum is correct for California - the total a claim can pay is 26 times your weekly benefit amount, or half of all your base period wages, whichever is less. The unpaid waiting week at the start doesn't eat into that total though. After 26 weeks the standard claim is done; there's no automatic extension program running right now.

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okay so 26 weeks is the ceiling, good to know. that's about six months which is what my cousin said

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Worth mentioning that if someone is enrolled in EDD-approved training or school, California Training Benefits can potentially extend things beyond the standard claim - but that's a separate thing to look into if the job search goes long.

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Benefits are taxed federally but California doesn't take state income tax out of UI payments. When you certify you get the option to have 10% withheld for federal taxes each time. Some people skip the withholding and then get surprised at tax time - just something to decide upfront based on your situation.

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So I'd get a 1099G form for taxes? Where does that come from?

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EDD mails a Form 1099G every January showing what you received the previous year. It also shows up in UI Online under Payments if you want to find it digitally - EDD makes it available there by January 31st.

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i had withholding taken out and was glad i did when april came around

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Went through a similar warehouse layoff about eight months ago and it took almost exactly three weeks from filing to getting my first payment. The DE 429Z showed up in my mailbox around week two telling me my weekly amount was going to be $287. Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) during that waiting period because I wanted to confirm my CalJOBS registration had actually been received by EDD - the agent pulled up my file and confirmed the registration showed up on their end and that the base period wages looked right for the claim. Helped me stop second-guessing everything while waiting.

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Three weeks from filing to first payment is actually reassuring to hear. Did EDD say anything about whether the CalJOBS registration affects timing?

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The agent said as long as the registration is in before that 21-day window closes it doesn't hold up the payment - it's really just a parallel requirement you have to complete, not a step that EDD has to process before paying you.

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eight months ago tracks with what i heard, three weeks seems to be the normal window these days

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EDD mails a lot of forms in those first few weeks and it can feel overwhelming. Main ones to actually read carefully: the DE 429Z (your weekly benefit amount), anything labeled DE 4800 (that's the phone interview notice if one gets scheduled), and the DE 8405 (the CalJOBS registration requirement). Everything else is mostly informational. If something says Notice of Determination that's really important to read because that's EDD's official eligibility decision and you have 30 days to appeal if you disagree with it.

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How would I know if I need to appeal something? Like would it be obvious from the notice?

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A Notice of Determination (DE 1080CZ) comes with an Appeal Form (DE 1000M) attached - if EDD decides you don't qualify for some reason, that's what shows up. It'll say specifically what the issue is. If you just get the DE 429Z and payments start flowing you're in good shape and there's nothing to appeal.

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The appeal window really matters - 30 calendar days from the mailing date on the notice, not 30 days from when you receive it. So if the mail is slow you don't want to assume you have more time than you do.

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My whole frustration with EDD early on was not knowing what 'pending' actually means. Spent two weeks panicking every time I saw it in Claim History. Pending just means EDD hasn't finished processing those weeks yet - could be an identity step, an eligibility review, whatever. It's not a denial and it's not necessarily a problem. It just means wait.

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That's genuinely helpful framing. So pending isn't automatically bad news.

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Pending drove me crazy until someone explained that it's basically just 'we're still working on it.' If EDD actually has a problem with your claim they send a formal notice, they don't just leave you on pending forever without saying why.

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Agreed - Pending made me spiral the first time I saw it. The notification system could genuinely be better.

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Something I wish someone had told me early on: if you have any work at all while you're on a claim - even just one shift at a temp job - report all of it on that week's certification. The wages go into the Report Wages section in UI Online before you certify. Getting caught not reporting is a much worse problem than just being honest about partial work.

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What if you get paid for a week you worked before the layoff, like a final paycheck that covers your last pay period? Do you report that too?

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Report wages in the week they were earned, not when you actually received the check. So your final paycheck covering your last week of work would go under that week when you were still employed - which is before your claim started anyway, so it may not even come up in your certifications.

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Exactly right - wages are reported by when you earned them, the actual payment date doesn't change which week they belong to.

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I got confused early on about whether being laid off and being fired are even different for EDD purposes. They're very different. A layoff is out of work through no fault of your own - EDD treats that as the clearest path to benefits. Getting fired means EDD looks at whether there was misconduct, and the employer has to show there was. Two completely different situations and department elimination like OP described is squarely in the layoff category.

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wait so if you get fired EDD doesn't automatically deny you? I thought getting fired meant you couldn't collect

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Nope, being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you - EDD looks at the reason. The employer has to actually show misconduct happened. If the firing was for something like a personality clash or a business decision, that's different from actual misconduct.

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To be precise about EDD's own language on this: if you were fired, your employer has to prove misconduct happened - it's not assumed just because you were let go that way. And if you quit, you'd need to show there was a good reason. For a budget layoff like OP's situation, neither of those applies.

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DE 429Z arrived in my mailbox and I thought I was done needing to do anything else. Nope - you still have to certify every two weeks to actually get paid. The DE 429Z just says what the claim could pay, it doesn't trigger payments automatically. First certification is usually about two weeks after EDD processes the application. Miss certifications and you lose those weeks - they don't hold them waiting for you.

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So I should be watching for when to certify rather than just waiting for money to show up?

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Exactly - UI Online will show when your first certification period opens. Set a reminder or check it regularly because there's no great notification system that makes sure you don't miss your window.

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I actually missed my first certification window because I didn't realize it had opened - had to contact EDD and sort it out. Don't make my mistake.

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Vacation pay and holiday pay are worth mentioning since warehouse jobs sometimes include those in a final settlement. EDD lists those as things you need to report when certifying - whether it affects a payment is EDD's call, not something anyone here can predict. If you got any payout like that just report it honestly and let EDD do the math.

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I did get paid out my remaining vacation days in my final check. I'll make sure to report that when certifying.

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Reporting it is the right move - the UI Online Report Wages section is where you'd enter wages before you certify for that period. EDD handles the calculation from there.

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Honestly the certification questions are pretty clear about what to include - just answer honestly and you're doing it right

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Quick sanity check on something I saw someone say earlier in this thread - they said EDD automatically uses the alternate base period if your wages are higher in recent quarters. That's not quite right. The alternate base period (the last four completed quarters) only gets used when the standard base period doesn't produce a valid claim at all. It doesn't come into play just because your more recent quarters might give a higher weekly benefit amount. The standard base period is always tried first.

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Correct clarification - the alternate base period is a fallback for when the standard one doesn't have enough wages to make the claim valid, not a way to maximize the weekly amount. EDD files it automatically in that situation, you don't request it.

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Good to know, I had also misunderstood that - thought you could kind of choose which base period to use

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EDD makes that call, not the claimant. And once a claim is valid under the standard base period, that's what's used regardless of what the alternate might show.

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Last thing worth flagging for the original poster: the claim year runs 52 weeks from the date you filed, not necessarily 52 weeks of benefits. If your claim gets delayed for any reason or you find work and stop certifying for a while, you can't go beyond that one-year window. Any weeks certified after the benefit year ends don't count.

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So if I find a job in a few months and then get laid off again, I'd need to file a new claim rather than just restart this one?

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If your benefit year is still open and you haven't used up your maximum benefit amount, you'd actually reopen the existing claim rather than start fresh - UI Online has that option. Only if the benefit year has ended or you've used all 26 weeks would you need a whole new claim.

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Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) a second time actually, to ask about exactly this after I found short-term work - the agent confirmed my benefit year end date and how much of my maximum benefit amount I still had left, so I knew what I was working with before accepting the temp job.

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