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Malik Robinson

What happens if you collect unemployment while working in California EDD?

So I've been on unemployment for about two months now and recently picked up some part-time shifts at a warehouse — nothing huge, maybe 15-20 hours a week at $18/hour. I honestly wasn't sure what to do and I made the mistake of not reporting those earnings on a couple of my weekly certifications. I was panicking and just hit 'no' when it asked if I had worked. Now I'm terrified because I've been reading things about fraud investigations and overpayment notices and I don't even know where to start fixing this. My claim is worth about $520/week and I only made maybe $600 total across those two weeks I didn't report. Can I just go back and amend something or do I have to wait until California EDD catches it? Has anyone actually been through something like this and come out the other side without losing everything?

ok first breathe. i made a similar mistake my first time on UI and it did NOT end my life lol. what you need to understand is California EDD has a system called the Tax Cross-Match program where they compare your reported wages with what your employer reports to the state. so they will eventually find out. the best thing you can do is be proactive. call EDD and tell them before they tell you. voluntary disclosure usually results in a repayment plan rather than a fraud determination. fraud is when they decide you INTENTIONALLY hid income. if you call first it helps show you weren't trying to deceive them.

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That's actually really reassuring to hear. I've been assuming worst case scenario since I read about people getting hit with penalties on top of the overpayment. Do you know if they actually pursue the penalty thing when someone comes forward voluntarily?

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yes the penalty thing is real, its like a 30% additional penalty on top of whatever you owe, but that's usually reserved for clear fraud cases not accidents or omissions that people correct themselves

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exactly what they said above. the 30% penalty and potential disqualification from future benefits is for when EDD builds a case against YOU. when you self-report you're essentially cooperating and they treat it differently in most cases

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You can still amend your weekly certifications. Log into UI Online and look for the option to reopen or correct a previously submitted certification. Some people have had luck calling the EDD to request a correction be noted on their claim file. The key thing with partial wages in California is that they use a formula — you're allowed to earn up to 25% of your weekly benefit amount before they start reducing your payment dollar for dollar. So if your weekly benefit is $520, you can earn up to $130 a week without any reduction. Anything above that gets deducted from your benefit. You should have been reporting those earnings and receiving reduced — not zero — benefits for those weeks.

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Wait so I might have actually still been entitled to SOME benefit even with the work? I didn't realize the formula worked that way. So I'm not necessarily guilty of fraud I'm just guilty of not understanding the rules?

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Correct. The partial benefits system is specifically designed for people who pick up part-time work. The law assumes some claimants will work part-time. Not reporting it is still a problem but the intent matters a lot in how EDD handles it. Your actual overpayment might be smaller than you think once they recalculate using the correct formula.

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this is so important and most people don't know this when they first file. the 25% earnings disregard has been around for a long time and EDD does not explain it well at ALL during the initial claim process

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I went through almost the exact same thing a couple years back. The thing that helped me most was actually getting a live EDD agent on the phone to walk through my specific situation before doing anything online. The problem is getting someone to pick up is a whole other battle. I spent like 3 weeks trying to reach EDD by phone and kept either getting the automated system telling me call volumes were too high or getting disconnected after waiting 45 minutes. A friend told me about Claimyr — it's a service at claimyr.com that basically navigates the EDD phone system for you and calls you back when an agent is actually ready to talk. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that shows how it works. I used it and got through to an EDD rep in the same day. Being able to explain the situation directly to an agent and get it documented was huge for how my case got handled.

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This is really useful, I've already tried calling twice and couldn't get through. I'll check out that video, honestly at this point I just need to talk to someone who can actually look at my claim.

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seconding claimyr, used it when my adjudication was dragging on forever and it genuinely worked. edd phone lines are impossible

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I'm always skeptical of stuff like this but if it actually gets you through to EDD I guess that's the most important thing here. OP really does need to talk to a live agent given the situation

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yeah the edd phone system is legitimately broken. anything that helps people actually get through is worth trying

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I want to be really honest with you here because I see a lot of sugarcoating in this thread. California EDD DOES pursue fraud aggressively and the consequences are serious — disqualification from benefits for up to 52 weeks, repayment of all overpaid amounts, AND a 30% penalty. However — and this is important — what you're describing sounds more like an error than deliberate fraud. The difference is intent. EDD investigators look at patterns. If you consistently reported your wages correctly for 8 weeks and then didn't report for 2 weeks, that looks more like confusion than a scheme. If you had never reported any wages ever, that looks different. Document everything, be ready to explain your misunderstanding of the rules, and do NOT ignore any notices that come in the mail.

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I appreciate the honesty. I've been trying not to catastrophize but I also don't want to be naive about this. For what it's worth I had zero other weeks where I worked so there's no pattern of hiding wages — it was genuinely new territory for me.

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That actually helps your case a lot. A one-time reporting error during your first experience with part-time work while on UI is a very different situation than systematic concealment. Keep records of everything.

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This is good advice. I'd add — if EDD sends you an overpayment notice, respond within the deadline. People get hurt not by the initial mistake but by ignoring the paperwork.

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wait im confused about something. you said you made $600 across two weeks and your weekly benefit is $520. so like with the 25% thing the other person mentioned you were allowed to keep $130 each week without reduction right? so your actual overpayment would be like... ($600/2) - $130 = $170 per week x 2 = $340 overpaid? not $1040? am i doing that math right someone please check me

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Your math is in the right direction but the formula works slightly differently. EDD deducts the earnings above the 25% threshold from that week's benefit. So if OP earned $300 one week: $300 minus $130 = $170 deducted from the $520 benefit = $350 paid instead of $520. The overpayment for that week would be $350 not the full $520. You're right that it's way less than if they treated it as full fraud.

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ok so it's definitely not as catastrophic as OP feared. that's actually good news

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This is making me feel a LOT better. I had this terrifying image of owing thousands but if the actual number is a few hundred I can handle that.

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Something nobody's mentioned yet — when you go to correct this with EDD, make sure you have your pay stubs or a printout of your earnings for those weeks ready. EDD will need documentation of exactly what you earned and when. If your employer pays through a payroll service like ADP or Gusto you can usually pull digital pay stubs pretty easily. If it was cash under the table... that's a whole different conversation and creates more complications for documenting anything.

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No it was legitimate payroll, I have pay stubs through their ADP portal. So that part should be easy at least.

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Good. Organized documentation when you talk to an EDD agent makes a big difference. Have those ready before you call.

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also keep a record of when you called, who you spoke with, and what they told you. EDD calls are supposed to be recorded but having your own notes protects you

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honestly the fact that you're asking about this now rather than just hoping it goes away says a lot. i've seen people in these forums who got hit with overpayment notices 18 months later and owed WAY more because they kept working and not reporting for the entire time. you caught yourself early and you're trying to fix it — that's genuinely the best position to be in

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Yeah I stopped certifying entirely once I realized what I'd done which I guess was also wrong but I panicked. I have 3 weeks of uncertified weeks now.

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You should certify those missed weeks and report your actual earnings correctly for each one. You can still certify backdated weeks in UI Online, they'll just need to be reviewed. Better to have them on record accurately than to leave gaps.

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yes this — leaving gaps in your certification creates its own set of problems. certify everything, report everything, let EDD sort out the math

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I had an overpayment notice from EDD last year for a situation not totally unlike this and I want to share what actually happened so people aren't just guessing. Got the notice, called EDD (took forever to get through btw), explained the situation. They classified mine as a non-fraud overpayment which meant no penalty on top of the amount, just repayment. They set me up on a repayment plan of about $75/month. It was annoying but not life-ruining. The fraud classification seems to be reserved for cases where someone clearly knew what they were doing and did it repeatedly.

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A repayment plan sounds manageable. Did they let you choose the monthly amount or did they set it?

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They asked what I could afford and I said $75 and they said fine. I think there's a minimum but they were pretty reasonable about it honestly. The key was being cooperative and not defensive when I explained what happened.

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this matches what I've heard from others. EDD would rather get their money back slowly than spend resources on full fraud prosecution for a few hundred dollars

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Just want to clarify some terminology that's been floated in this thread because it matters for how you talk to EDD. An overpayment is when EDD determines they paid you more than you were entitled to — this is civil and results in a repayment obligation. Fraud is when they determine the overpayment resulted from willful misrepresentation — this can result in penalties AND in extreme cases referral for criminal prosecution, though that's reserved for large systematic fraud. What OP is describing — if they come forward proactively — is almost certainly going to be treated as a standard overpayment. The investigation process involves EDD reviewing your certifications against employer-reported wage data. Coming forward before that cross-match triggers is genuinely advantageous.

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This is exactly the kind of clarity I needed. The distinction between overpayment and fraud has been muddy in everything I've been reading online.

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Good breakdown. I'd add that EDD also has a formal appeals process if they DO classify something as fraud and you disagree with that determination. You have 30 days from the notice date to file an appeal with the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board.

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Right, and the CUIAB appeals process is actually fairly claimant-friendly compared to what people expect. You can represent yourself and present your own evidence.

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slightly different angle here — going forward, even if you're only picking up occasional shifts, you MUST report all earnings during every single weekly certification, no exceptions. the question on the form is not 'did you work a lot' it's 'did you work at all.' even one hour needs to be reported. people get tripped up on this constantly

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Lesson learned for sure. I think I was also confused because my hours are inconsistent week to week and I didn't understand that you report what you EARNED that week not what you get paid — or is it when you get paid? I'm still confused on this.

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Great question and this trips everyone up — in California you report earnings in the week you PERFORMED the work, not when the paycheck arrives. So if you worked Monday through Friday of certification week 3, you report it during week 3's certification even if payday isn't until week 4.

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This is exactly right and it's one of the most common honest mistakes people make. The EDD instructions could be much clearer on this.

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has anyone tried the EDD chat option? i know it's not available 24/7 but i've had better luck getting basic questions answered through the chat portal than trying to call. for something this serious though i'd want to talk to an actual person not a chatbot

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the chat is basically useless for anything account specific. it can answer general questions but can't access your claim information. for actually resolving an overpayment situation you need a live agent

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yeah that tracks. it's good for like 'how do I certify' questions but not for 'I made an error and need it fixed

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I had a really hard time getting through to EDD when I was dealing with something similar — spent two weeks trying to get a live person. Someone in a different forum suggested Claimyr and it was genuinely a game changer. You put in your info at claimyr.com and instead of you sitting on hold they alert you when an agent is available. There's a walkthrough at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. I know it sounds too good to be true but it worked for me and getting that conversation on record with EDD was what resolved my issue without it escalating.

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I'm definitely going to try this. I've been avoiding calling because of the phone system nightmare but putting it off is only making things worse.

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second time this has been mentioned in the thread, must actually work. gonna bookmark it for myself too

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the edd phone situation is genuinely terrible so any tool that helps is worth knowing about

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one more thing to keep in mind — if you eventually get an overpayment notice in the mail, the clock starts ticking immediately. you have 30 days to either pay in full, request a payment plan, OR file an appeal if you think the determination is wrong. missing that 30 day window causes all kinds of additional problems including them potentially withholding future tax refunds to recover the debt

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I did not know about the tax refund thing. That's motivation to get this sorted out proactively for sure.

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yeah EDD can intercept state AND federal tax refunds through the California Interagency Intercept Collection program. it's not a great situation to end up in when you could have just called and worked something out

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Also worth knowing — if you're ever certified for future benefits while an overpayment exists, EDD can offset your new benefits to recover the old debt. Proactive resolution avoids a lot of these downstream complications.

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this whole thread is making me realize how many people don't understand partial benefits when they first sign up. California EDD should really have a mandatory explainer about the earnings calculation before you submit your first weekly cert

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100% agree. the UI Online interface is not intuitive and the FAQ is buried. most people figure out how it works through trial and error or by asking on forums like this

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I learned about the 25% rule from this exact type of forum post after making my own mistake lol. the official EDD materials are not written for normal people

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exactly. if they explained it clearly upfront there would be way fewer accidental overpayment situations

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quick question since this is relevant to my situation — what if you worked for like 3 hours one week and earned like $54? do you still have to report that? feels like it's below any meaningful threshold but idk

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Yes. You report every dollar. There is no 'too small to report' threshold in California UI. Any amount of earnings during a certification week must be reported.

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ok yikes i did not know that. i thought it was only if you earned above a certain amount. fixing this immediately

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This is actually one of the more common misconceptions. People assume there's a de minimis threshold but there isn't. Every dollar, every week, full stop.

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OP check back in and let us know how it goes when you talk to EDD. threads like this are actually useful for other people in the same situation and a real outcome report helps. hoping you get a cooperative agent and a manageable resolution

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Will do. I'm going to try calling this week using that Claimyr service since the regular line has been impossible. I'll report back once I actually get through to someone and know what I'm dealing with. Thank you everyone in this thread, I came in here panicking and now I actually have a plan.

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good luck! the fact that you caught this yourself and are fixing it proactively really does put you in a much better spot than you think

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rooting for you. the EDD system is not designed to be user-friendly but most agents are human beings who understand that people make honest mistakes

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also for anyone reading this later — the California EDD fraud tip line exists specifically to report OTHERS committing fraud, not to self-report your own errors. some people confuse these. if you made an honest mistake you want the regular EDD claims line, not the fraud line. calling the fraud line to report yourself would be... not the right call

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lmaooo can you imagine calling the fraud tip line on yourself. but honestly i can see how someone panicking might think that's what they're supposed to do

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I've genuinely seen people ask if they should do this on various forums. Panic does strange things to decision-making.

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the EDD website navigation doesn't help. nothing is labeled intuitively and when you're already stressed finding the right contact path is hard

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reading this whole thread as someone who works in HR — the employer wage reporting to EDD happens quarterly. so EDD doesn't see your Q2 wages until sometime in Q3. that's usually when the cross-match happens and overpayment notices go out. OP probably has some time before it would have been caught on its own, but that doesn't mean wait. use that time to get ahead of it

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This is really useful context. So I'm not in immediate danger of getting a notice next week but I should absolutely not use this as an excuse to sit on it.

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Exactly right. The smart move is to resolve it before the cross-match rather than after. The window is there but it's not infinite.

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Good point. The quarterly reporting cycle is why some people don't find out about overpayments until months after the fact, which makes it even more confusing and jarring when the notice finally arrives.

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not to derail but has anyone noticed EDD has gotten slightly better about the phone lines in the last few months? i had to call about a job search audit last month and actually got through in about 35 minutes which is basically a miracle compared to what it used to be like

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35 minutes is still wild for a government service but yeah apparently they did hire more staff. still not consistently reliable though

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I tried on a Monday morning two weeks ago and gave up after 90 minutes. So either it depends heavily on the day/time or you got lucky

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probably a bit of both. monday mornings are notoriously bad. i called wednesday around 10am which might have helped

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Final thing I'll add for OP and anyone in this situation — when you do get through to an EDD agent, don't over-explain or ramble. State clearly: 'I need to report a certification error from [specific dates]. I worked during those weeks and did not correctly report my earnings. I want to correct the record.' Simple, factual, non-defensive. The agent will guide you through the process from there. Emotional or over-explained calls sometimes create confusion about what you actually need.

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This is such practical advice. I have a tendency to over-explain when I'm nervous and I can see how that would make a complicated call even more complicated.

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Scripting out what you're going to say before you call is underrated. I did this and it made the whole conversation way smoother.

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also have your claim ID number, SSN, and the specific week ending dates you need to correct all written down before you dial. nothing slows down an EDD call like fumbling for information while the agent waits

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