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Does your previous employer have to approve unemployment in California EDD?

I just filed my first unemployment claim through California EDD last week and I'm completely confused about how the whole process works. My coworker told me that my former employer has to literally 'approve' my claim before I get any money, which has me freaking out because my boss and I did NOT end the relationship on good terms. I was laid off as part of a reduction in force but my manager made some comments on my last day that made me think they might try to cause problems. So does your previous employer have to approve unemployment for you to get benefits? Like do they have some kind of veto power over my claim? I've been reading different things online and I can't figure out what's actually true. My claim is currently showing 'pending' on UI Online and I'm not sure if that means my employer is holding it up or if that's just normal processing. Can someone explain how this actually works in California?

Your coworker has it a little mixed up. Your previous employer does NOT have to 'approve' your unemployment claim - that's not how California EDD works at all. What actually happens is that EDD notifies your former employer that you've filed a claim, and the employer has an opportunity to respond with their side of the story. They can provide information or contest the claim if they believe you're not eligible, but the final decision is made entirely by California EDD, not your employer. So they can't just veto your benefits. The EDD weighs both sides and makes the determination based on California unemployment law.

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Oh wow that's such a relief. So my employer can fight it but they don't just automatically get to say no?

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Exactly right. They can submit a protest or provide information, but EDD adjudicators review everything and make the call. The burden is actually often on the employer to prove you shouldn't receive benefits, especially in layoff situations.

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This is correct. I worked in HR for years and dealt with EDD claims constantly. Employers have a limited window to respond and if they miss it the claim often proceeds without their input at all.

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to add to what the person above said - since you were laid off due to reduction in force that is probably the best possible situation for your claim. When you're laid off for lack of work, employers have almost no grounds to contest successfully. Employer contests are way more likely to matter when someone quit or got fired for misconduct. A RIF layoff? You should be fine.

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That makes me feel so much better. I was so scared my old boss was going to ruin this for me.

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yep laid off = basically automatic approval in my experience. my old company tried to mess with my claim and EDD sided with me anyway because it was clearly a layoff situation

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I went through something similar last year where I was worried my former employer would contest my claim. The pending status on UI Online is totally normal and doesn't necessarily mean your employer is doing anything - it just means EDD is still processing. What helped me actually get answers about my specific claim status was using a service called Claimyr. I couldn't get through to EDD on the phone for weeks but Claimyr got me connected to an actual EDD agent who explained exactly where my claim stood and what was happening. You can check it out at claimyr.com and they have a demo video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - when I finally talked to an agent they confirmed my employer had responded but EDD was processing it normally.

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Wait so this actually gets you through to a real person at EDD? I've called like 8 times and just get the automated system saying to call back later.

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Yeah that was exactly my situation. The regular EDD phone line is almost impossible to get through. Claimyr works differently and actually got me connected. The agent I spoke with was super helpful and walked me through the whole employer response process.

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I've heard of this. My neighbor used it when her claim got stuck in adjudication. Said it saved her so much stress.

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WAIT so employers can contest unemployment claims?? I had NO idea this was even a thing. I thought once EDD approved you that was it. Does that mean my old job could have been contesting mine this whole time without me knowing??? My claim has been in adjudication for 6 weeks and nobody told me anything about employer contests being a possible reason!!

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Adjudication doesn't necessarily mean your employer contested. There are lots of reasons a claim goes to adjudication - it could be questions about your reason for separation, your availability for work, income verification, all kinds of things. Don't panic yet.

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okay but HOW do I find out which reason it is. this is so frustrating i just want to know what's happening

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You should get a written notice from EDD explaining why your claim went to adjudication. Check your UI Online inbox and also your physical mail. EDD sends notices both ways sometimes.

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Also if you can get through to an agent they can tell you exactly what issue triggered adjudication. That's honestly the fastest way to get a real answer.

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The employer protest process works like this from what I understand: EDD sends your employer a Notice of Unemployment Insurance Claim Filed, and the employer has 10 days to respond. If they respond and contest, EDD reviews their information along with your claim details. If the employer claims you were fired for misconduct or that you quit voluntarily, then your claim will likely go to adjudication where an EDD interviewer investigates. But just filing a protest doesn't mean you lose - tons of people win those investigations.

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10 days is actually a pretty short window. What if my employer responds after the 10 days?

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Late responses can still be considered in some cases but they carry less weight. EDD has discretion there. Generally if an employer blows the deadline their protest gets less consideration.

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My employer missed the response window when I filed and my claim just went straight through. Took about 3 weeks total.

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honestly the whole system is designed to confuse people so they give up. your 'employer has to approve' - NO. your employer gets NOTIFIED and can OBJECT but California EDD makes the final call every single time. the number of people I see on here who think their boss has some magic power to just cancel their benefits... that's exactly the kind of myth that stops people from even filing. employers know this too and some of them intentionally tell employees false things to discourage filing.

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That's kind of scary that employers might deliberately mislead people about this.

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It happens. Some employers even have clauses in severance agreements trying to get employees to waive unemployment rights which is actually not enforceable in California. EDD benefits are a legal right, not a gift from your employer.

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wow I did not know severance agreements couldn't take away unemployment rights. I signed something like that and was scared to file. filing right now.

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Adding some important nuance here: while your employer doesn't 'approve' your claim, their response does matter a lot in certain situations. Here's when employer contests have more impact: 1. If you were fired - employer can try to prove misconduct which would disqualify you 2. If you quit - employer might dispute whether you had good cause to quit 3. If there's a dispute about your hours or wages - affects your benefit amount For a clear-cut layoff like yours, employer protests rarely succeed. But if anyone reading this was fired or quit, understand that your former employer's response carries more weight in those situations and you should be prepared to present your own evidence to EDD.

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This is really helpful context. I feel like I understand the whole system so much better now. Definitely glad I was laid off and not fired.

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what counts as misconduct though? because i was fired and my old employer claimed misconduct but what I did was super minor

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California has a fairly specific definition - misconduct has to be a substantial disregard of your employer's interests or your duties. Minor mistakes, poor performance, inability to do the job - those generally don't qualify as disqualifying misconduct. Intentional rule-breaking, dishonesty, or repeated violations after warnings are more likely to qualify. An EDD interviewer would investigate and make that determination.

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And you can appeal if EDD initially sides with your employer. The appeals process is an important option that a lot of people don't use.

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just went through this whole thing myself. employer tried to say i abandoned my job (i did not, i gave notice) and EDD sided with me after an interview. the whole process took about 8 weeks from initial filing to resolution but i got all my back payments at once when it was approved. hang in there

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8 weeks is a long time but good to know it eventually worked out. Did you have to do an interview by phone?

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yes phone interview with an EDD adjudicator. they called me at a scheduled time and asked me questions about the separation. I had documented everything on my end which helped a lot.

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Always document everything, this is so important. Emails, texts, written notices - save all of it.

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can i ask a dumb question - if my employer IS contesting my claim does EDD tell me? or does it just quietly happen in the background and affect my claim without me knowing? i filed 2 weeks ago and have heard nothing

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Not a dumb question at all. Yes, EDD should notify you if your employer contests and it triggers further review. You'd typically get a written notice explaining that your claim requires additional investigation. Check your UI Online message inbox and your physical mail carefully.

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I checked UI Online and there's no messages there, just says pending. Does pending always mean something is being contested?

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No, pending is just the default status while EDD is processing. Could be totally routine. Give it at least 3 weeks before getting too concerned, and make sure you keep certifying your weekly claims in the meantime regardless.

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This is key - keep filing your weekly certifications even while your claim is pending or in adjudication. If you stop certifying and your claim eventually gets approved, you may not be able to get back payments for weeks you missed.

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For anyone who's been waiting and can't get answers through UI Online or the regular phone line - I'll mention Claimyr again because it genuinely helped me when I was in this situation. Going to claimyr.com and getting connected to an actual EDD agent was the only way I could get real information about what was happening with my claim. There's a video walkthrough at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that shows exactly how it works. An agent was able to tell me whether my employer had responded, what stage my claim was in, and what I needed to do next. When you're waiting with no income that kind of direct information is worth a lot.

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This is really tempting to try. I'm going on 2 weeks with just the pending status and it's making me anxious.

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does it work for adjudication situations too or just pending claims

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I've seen people in this thread mention using it for adjudication as well. Any time you need to actually speak with an EDD representative it can help - whether it's pending status, adjudication questions, or employer contest situations.

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Something I wish I'd known when I filed: the Notice of Determination that EDD eventually sends you is REALLY important. It will state whether you're approved or disqualified and specifically explain the reason. If your employer contested and EDD agrees with them, that notice is what you'd appeal. You have 30 days from the date on the notice to file an appeal, not 30 days from when you receive it, so open your mail immediately.

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The date on the notice not the date received - that's a really important distinction. What happens if you miss the 30 day window?

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Missing the appeal deadline is very serious. You can request a late appeal but you'd need to show good cause for why you missed it. It's much harder to get your appeal heard after the window closes. Another reason to stay on top of your mail and UI Online notices.

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I missed an appeal deadline once and it was a nightmare to fix. Monitor your EDD correspondence obsessively, I cannot stress this enough.

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also just want to add - your employer's tax rate literally goes up when their former employees collect unemployment. this creates a financial incentive for some employers to fight claims. so yes some employers do contest even layoff situations trying to protect their unemployment tax rate. doesn't mean they'll win but it explains why even 'friendly' layoffs sometimes end up contested

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This is exactly right and more people need to understand this. It's not always personal when an employer contests - it's sometimes just their HR department trying to manage costs. Still annoying but it's not necessarily your old boss being vindictive.

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Interesting, I didn't know that's how the employer tax side worked. Makes more sense now why they might contest even a normal layoff.

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I got denied once because my employer lied in their response to EDD. Said I was fired for cause when I was actually laid off. I appealed, had my layoff paperwork, emails from my manager confirming the RIF, and the appeals board reversed it completely. The moral: keep ALL your documentation from your employer. Anything in writing that confirms the nature of your separation is gold.

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That's terrifying that an employer can just lie to EDD. But good to know the appeals process caught it.

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The appeals process through the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board is pretty thorough. They take testimony, review documents, the whole thing. It's more formal than dealing with regular EDD but it's a real opportunity to present your case.

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Important to note you can also have representation at CUIAB hearings. If the stakes are high enough some people hire attorneys who specialize in unemployment appeals. There are also legal aid organizations that help with this for free.

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my sister went through this last month. her employer contested claiming she quit voluntarily when actually she was constructively discharged (working conditions became unbearable after she reported harassment). EDD initially denied her claim. she appealed with documentation of the harassment complaints and won the appeal. it took like 3 months total but she got all her back benefits.

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3 months is a long time to be without income. Did she have any other support during that period?

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it was really rough. she had to borrow from family. but the back pay when it finally came through was several thousand dollars so it was worth fighting.

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Constructive discharge cases are actually some of the more complex unemployment situations. Good that she documented everything and persisted through the appeal. A lot of people give up after the first denial.

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ok quick question that might be dumb - when EDD sends the Notice of Unemployment Insurance Claim Filed to your employer, does it show them how much you're claiming or anything about your financial situation? asking for reasons lol

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The notice shows your employer that you filed and asks them to verify or dispute the separation information and wages. It doesn't expose all your financial details but your wage history with that employer is part of what they'd be confirming.

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ok that makes sense. was just making sure my old boss wasn't going to see like my bank account or something lol

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Ha no nothing like that. EDD is just verifying the employment relationship and reason for separation. Your personal financial information beyond wages isn't something your employer sees.

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Something practical for OP and anyone else in this situation: go through all your records from your employer right now before you need them. Pay stubs, offer letters, any written communication about the layoff, WARN Act notices if applicable, severance agreements. Organize them. If your employer does contest or if adjudication happens you want to be ready to respond quickly. Being organized and responding promptly to any EDD requests can make a big difference in how long the process takes.

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I actually have my layoff letter saved and some emails. Going to put together a folder with everything now.

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Perfect. Also screenshot or save your UI Online claim history pages periodically. Sometimes the portal updates in ways that are confusing and having a record of what it showed previously can be helpful.

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Good advice. I'd also add: if EDD schedules a phone interview with you, treat it seriously. Write down your account of events beforehand so you're organized and clear when speaking with the adjudicator. Those interviews can feel casual but what you say matters.

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honestly been following this thread and just want to say EDD is such a mess to deal with. I had an employer contest last year on a clear layoff, it added 5 extra weeks to my processing time, and the whole time I couldn't get ANYONE on the phone to explain what was happening. spent hours every week trying to get through. it's just cruel that people who are already stressed about losing their jobs have to fight this hard just to access benefits they paid into.

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The system is genuinely broken in a lot of ways. People pay into unemployment insurance their whole working lives and then when they actually need it the experience is this bureaucratic nightmare.

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5 weeks of calling and getting nowhere. someone eventually told me about calling right when the office opens at 8am on certain days but even that only worked like 1 in 10 times. the whole thing is just exhausting.

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That's exactly why I tried Claimyr when I was in a similar situation - claimyr.com - after spending weeks getting nowhere with the regular phone system. Getting connected to an actual agent who could explain my claim status made such a difference when I was already stressed and struggling financially.

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For OP specifically: your situation sounds very straightforward. Layoff due to RIF is one of the cleanest possible reasons for unemployment. Your employer can respond but they have very limited grounds to successfully contest a genuine layoff. Keep certifying your weekly claims, watch your mail and UI Online messages, respond promptly to any EDD requests, and you should be fine. The 'pending' status is normal for early stage claims. Most claims that start as pending resolve without any problems.

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Thank you for this. This whole thread has been incredibly reassuring. I came in terrified my bitter ex-boss could just snap his fingers and take my benefits away and now I understand the actual process so much better.

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That's a really common misconception and it makes sense that your coworker believed it - employers often act like they have more power over this than they do. You have rights here. California EDD exists precisely to support workers in your situation.

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Good luck with your claim OP. Come back and update us when it's approved - which it very likely will be!

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I will! Thank you everyone. Going to go organize my documentation folder right now and stop panicking. This community is the best.

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