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Aisha Rahman

Can you get unemployment if fired in California? EDD eligibility explained

So I got let go from my job at a logistics warehouse last Tuesday and I'm freaking out a little. My supervisor basically said they were 'letting me go' but on the paperwork it says terminated. I'm scared to apply for California EDD unemployment because I don't know if I even qualify since I was fired. A coworker told me if you get fired you automatically get denied but that doesn't sound right to me?? I worked there for 2 years and never had any written warnings or anything. Does anyone know if you can actually get unemployment benefits if you were fired or is my coworker right that it's automatic disqualification? I need to figure this out fast because rent is due in 3 weeks.

Your coworker is wrong - getting fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from California EDD unemployment benefits. The key thing EDD looks at is WHY you were fired. If you were let go due to lack of work, company downsizing, performance issues that weren't your fault, or anything that wasn't serious misconduct on your part, you can absolutely still collect UI benefits. Misconduct is the magic word here - EDD defines it pretty specifically as a deliberate violation of company policy or behavior showing real disregard for your employer's interests. Things like attendance problems, not meeting quotas, or personality conflicts usually don't rise to that level. Go ahead and file your claim - you have nothing to lose by applying.

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Thank you so much this is actually really reassuring. So even though it says 'terminated' on my paperwork I should still apply?

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Yes, absolutely apply. 'Terminated' just means your employment ended - it doesn't tell EDD anything about why. They'll send both you AND your former employer a questionnaire asking about the circumstances. Your former employer's response matters a lot here, so if they give a vague reason or don't respond, that often works in your favor.

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this is correct. i was fired from a retail job like 4 years ago and still got approved. just make sure you answer the separation questions honestly on the initial claim form

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Been through this twice actually. First time I got fired I panicked and didn't apply because I assumed the same thing your coworker said. Big mistake - I missed out on weeks of benefits. Second time around I knew better. Filed right away and got approved no problem. The whole 'fired = no benefits' thing is one of the biggest myths about California EDD unemployment. Unless you literally did something egregious like theft, harassment, or showed up drunk repeatedly, you're probably going to be fine.

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Did they put you through adjudication? I keep reading about that and it sounds scary

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Yeah they did the second time actually. Adjudication just means a California EDD rep reviews the circumstances of your separation before making a decision. It's not as scary as it sounds - they're basically just verifying the facts. Mine took about 2.5 weeks. Just be honest and responsive if they reach out.

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adjudication is when it gets rough tho ngl. had mine drag on for 6 weeks and couldn't reach anyone at edd the whole time

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To actually answer your question with the technical breakdown: California EDD determines eligibility for fired workers under Unemployment Insurance Code Section 1256. You're disqualified ONLY if EDD finds you were fired for 'misconduct.' Under California law, misconduct requires proof of: (1) a material duty you owed your employer, (2) a substantial breach of that duty, and (3) that the breach was willful or wanton rather than just negligent. The burden of proof is actually on your EMPLOYER to demonstrate misconduct. If they can't show all three elements, you qualify. Given you said you had no written warnings in 2 years, your former employer is going to have a hard time proving a pattern of willful misconduct. File your claim at UI Online on the EDD website as soon as possible - there's a one-week unpaid waiting period from your filing date so every day you wait costs you money.

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Wait there's an unpaid waiting period? Like I won't get paid for the first week no matter what?

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Correct, California EDD has a one-week unpaid waiting period that applies to almost everyone. It's sometimes called the waiting week. You still need to certify for it, but you won't receive payment for that first week. Starting from week 2 you can receive benefits if approved.

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just to add - you DO still need to file a weekly certification for the waiting week even though you don't get paid for it. some people skip it thinking it doesn't matter and then wonder why their second week doesn't process right

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omg i did NOT know this when i filed. wish someone had told me earlier

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Not to derail but I want to mention something that helped me when I was stuck in EDD limbo after getting fired - I could NOT get through to anyone by phone for like 3 weeks. Tried calling first thing in the morning, tried calling on different days, kept getting the 'we cannot take your call' message and getting hung up on. Someone on here mentioned a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that basically helps you get through to an actual EDD phone agent. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - it got me connected to an EDD rep within a couple hours when I'd been trying for weeks on my own. Super helpful especially when you're dealing with a separation adjudication and need actual answers from a human being.

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This is actually really helpful because I'm already dreading the phone nightmare. Saving this link thank you

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seconded, the edd phone system is genuinely one of the worst experiences i've had dealing with any government agency

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Good practical tip. Phone access to EDD is genuinely important during adjudication because sometimes there are questions or issues on your claim that won't resolve on their own and you need a live agent to look at it.

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ok wait i'm confused about something - what counts as misconduct vs just being bad at your job?? because my situation is kinda similar and i got fired for 'performance issues' but they never gave me a PIP or anything written. does that count as misconduct??

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Great question and this trips a lot of people up. Poor performance is generally NOT misconduct under California EDD standards. Misconduct requires intent - you have to deliberately do something wrong. If you just weren't meeting expectations, made mistakes, or weren't a good fit for the role, that's typically not going to disqualify you. File your claim and let EDD make the determination.

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ok that's a relief. so the adjudication they do is them figuring out which category it falls into?

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Exactly. During adjudication an EDD interviewer looks at the facts from both sides - you and your former employer - and decides whether what happened meets the legal definition of misconduct. No written warnings definitely helps your case.

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my former employer claimed i was fired for misconduct and EDD still sided with me because the employer couldn't give specific dates or incidents. document everything you can remember

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THE EDD PHONE SYSTEM IS AN ACTUAL NIGHTMARE. I've been dealing with a fired/misconduct determination for going on 5 weeks now and I literally cannot get a human on the phone. I've called over 40 times. FORTY. The automated system either hangs up on me or tells me call volume is too high. I filed a complaint with my state assemblymember's office which I've heard can sometimes get things moving. Anyone have other suggestions because I'm completely losing my mind here.

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I really feel this. That's actually exactly when I used Claimyr - after weeks of failed calling attempts. claimyr.com helped me actually get through to an EDD agent instead of spending hours hitting redial. For anyone in a misconduct determination limbo especially, having a live agent look at your claim can make a real difference. The demo video is at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10

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Going to try this today honestly at this point I'll try anything

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the assemblymember route actually does work sometimes fyi. my cousin had her claim unstuck that way after 6 weeks. don't give up on that either

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Also try submitting a contact form through UI Online asking for a callback. It's not guaranteed but sometimes it actually works and you don't have to sit on hold

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - when you file your initial claim on UI Online, make sure you describe the circumstances of your separation accurately and in detail. I know it feels weird to basically explain why you got fired but it's actually in your best interest. The more detail you provide about things like: no prior written warnings, length of employment, what your supervisor actually said, whether there was any kind of progressive discipline process - all of that helps the EDD interviewer understand that this wasn't willful misconduct. Vague answers can actually slow things down or lead to worse outcomes.

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Should I mention that the paperwork says terminated but my supervisor never gave me a clear reason? That seems important

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Yes absolutely mention it. The discrepancy between a vague verbal 'letting you go' and paperwork that just says 'terminated' without a stated cause actually works in your favor. EDD needs the employer to specify and prove misconduct - if the employer just puts 'terminated' with no reason, that's going to be hard for them to prove misconduct from.

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This is exactly right. The burden is on the employer under California law. Ambiguous termination paperwork with no stated cause is actually a relatively strong position for the claimant to be in.

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wait so if i quit does that work the same way? asking for a friend lol

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Completely different situation - quitting is generally a disqualification unless you quit for 'good cause' related to your job. Good cause has to be something significant like unsafe working conditions, not being paid correctly, medical necessity, or domestic violence. Just not liking your job isn't usually enough.

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oh dang ok. what if your boss is like really horrible

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Unfortunately 'horrible boss' alone usually doesn't meet the 'good cause' standard. EDD wants to see that you tried to resolve the issue with your employer first before quitting, and that conditions were objectively intolerable, not just unpleasant. The bar is pretty high.

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this is why the fired vs quit question matters so much. being fired for non-misconduct is actually often EASIER to get benefits than quitting even for a somewhat valid reason

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Just want to share my experience to give OP some hope - I got fired from a tech support job about 8 months ago. Company claimed it was misconduct. I was terrified. Filed anyway, went through adjudication, got approved in about 3 weeks. My employer tried to say I violated company policy but couldn't show any written documentation of the policy or evidence I'd been warned. EDD ruled in my favor. The system actually does work sometimes even when your former employer contests it.

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This is so helpful to hear, thank you. Did you have to do a phone interview with EDD during adjudication?

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Yes, an EDD interviewer called me to go over the details. It was actually pretty low-key - they just asked me to describe what happened in my own words and whether I'd received any warnings. Be calm, be factual, don't exaggerate anything.

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how long did you wait for the call? i've had a claim in adjudication for almost 2 weeks and nothing yet

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does anyone know what happens to your weekly certifications while you're in adjudication?? im so confused because i dont want to miss certifying and lose benefits if i DO get approved

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Keep certifying every week no matter what - this is critical. If your adjudication resolves in your favor, California EDD will retroactively pay all the weeks you certified for during the adjudication period. If you stop certifying, you can lose those weeks permanently. Just keep filing your weekly certifications even if your payment status shows pending or nothing is processing.

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oh thank god i asked. i was literally about to stop certifying because i thought what's the point

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This comes up SO often. Yes please keep certifying. Think of it as holding your place in line. The payments will release once the adjudication decision is made in your favor.

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also make sure you're completing your job search activities every week even during adjudication. EDD requires you to list job search contacts on each weekly cert and they can audit this

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Something worth knowing: California EDD has an appeal process if you DO get denied. You have 30 days from the date on your Notice of Determination to file an appeal with the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB). A lot of people think a denial is final and give up but it absolutely isn't. Appeal hearings are conducted by an administrative law judge and you can represent yourself. A lot of initial denials get overturned on appeal. So even in the worst case you still have options.

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I really hope it doesn't come to that but it's good to know there's a safety net if I do get denied. Thank you.

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Appeals actually do have a decent success rate especially for fired workers where the employer can't clearly document misconduct. Worth knowing.

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The CUIAB hearing is more formal than the initial adjudication interview but you don't need a lawyer. Just bring any documentation you have - emails, texts, your own notes about what happened. Be organized and factual.

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my two cents: file NOW don't wait. every day you delay filing is money you won't get back because of the waiting week and just general processing time. you can file online at UI Online on the EDD website and it takes maybe 45 minutes if you have your employment history info handy. have your employer's address, your dates of employment, and your last paycheck info ready before you start.

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I'm going to do this today actually. Just been nervous but this thread has helped a lot.

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good. and when you get to the separation reason section - choose 'lack of work/layoff' if that's accurate, or 'discharge/fired' if that's what happened. don't try to soften it or pick something vague. just be accurate and explain in the text box.

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also save or screenshot your confirmation number after you submit!! you'll need it if you have to follow up and trust me you don't want to be trying to prove you filed without it

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I feel like this thread should also mention - your weekly benefit amount when you do get approved is based on your highest earning quarter in your base period, not your most recent pay. Some people are surprised when the amount is different from what they expected. California EDD has a UI calculator on their website you can use to estimate your benefit amount before you even apply.

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Oh I didn't even think about how much I'd get. I'll check that calculator out.

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Max weekly benefit in California is currently $450 per week. Your actual amount will be somewhere between the minimum and maximum depending on your earnings. The base period is typically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed.

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wait so it's not based on my most recent salary? so if i made more money a couple years ago it could actually be higher than expected?

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Potentially yes, though the base period only goes back about 18 months so 'a couple years ago' may not be in your base period. The EDD website has the exact calculation method if you want to get precise about it.

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I got fired too and was convinced I wouldn't qualify. Filed anyway on a friend's suggestion. Adjudication took like 19 days and I was convinced I'd be denied the whole time. Got the approval notification in UI Online one morning and honestly cried a little. Point being - apply first, catastrophize later. You might be surprised.

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This is exactly the kind of story I needed to hear. Thank you for sharing.

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I know the waiting is awful. One tip - check UI Online obsessively lol. That's where the determination notice will show up and you can see if they're requesting any additional info from you.

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did they try to call you during adjudication or was it all through UI Online?

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They called me once out of the blue on my cell - it was an EDD interviewer going through questions. Make sure your phone number on your claim is correct and that you answer unknown numbers because they don't necessarily leave messages or call back

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genuine question - what if your former employer lies about why they fired you? like what if they claim misconduct that didn't happen?

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This is where your own documentation becomes crucial. If you have any emails, texts, or written communication that contradicts what your employer says, gather all of it. You can submit documentation to EDD during adjudication. If it becomes an appeal, you can present evidence at your hearing.

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Also worth noting - EDD interviewers have experience with employers who overstate misconduct. They're looking for specific documented incidents, not just general claims. If your employer says 'misconduct' but can't point to specific dates, written warnings, or documented incidents, that's going to be hard for them to support.

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ok that's reassuring. my former employer is the type to say anything to avoid unemployment claims

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also worth mentioning for OP - you'll need to do job search activities every week you certify. California EDD requires you to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep a record of them. They don't ask you to submit the records with each certification but they CAN audit you and ask for them later. Keep a simple spreadsheet with the company name, position, how you applied, and the date. Don't skip this step even if you think you'll find work quickly.

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Is there a specific format they want for the job search log?

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No specific format required - just something you can show if audited. Company name, job title, date of contact, method of contact (applied online, email, indeed, etc.) is sufficient. Some people use the CalJOBS website which is California's job search portal - registering there can also satisfy some of the job search requirements.

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The CalJOBS registration is sometimes required as part of the eligibility process too - EDD may actually tell you to register there as part of setting up your claim. Worth doing early.

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can i ask a stupid question - if i get a part time job while collecting unemployment do i have to report it

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Not a stupid question at all - and yes, absolutely report it. When you do your weekly certification there's a question about whether you worked and how much you earned. You report your gross earnings for the week you worked (not when you get paid). California EDD uses a formula - if you earn less than your weekly benefit amount, you may still receive partial benefits. Not reporting earnings is considered fraud and can result in overpayment demands plus penalties.

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ok good to know i definitely don't want to accidentally commit fraud lol

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the partial benefit calculation is actually pretty useful - you don't lose all your benefits the second you work a little, it phases out gradually. so part time work while job searching is actually workable

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Just checking back in on this thread to share an update for anyone who finds it later - I'm the OP. Filed my claim on Monday, answered all the questions honestly about being terminated, and it's showing as 'pending' with what looks like a separation issue flagged. So probably going into adjudication. Keeping up with weekly certifications like everyone said. Going to try that Claimyr thing someone mentioned (claimyr.com) this week to see if I can actually get a human at California EDD to explain the status - the UI Online portal doesn't give me much detail. Will update when I hear something.

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Good luck! The pending/separation issue flag is super common for fired workers - doesn't mean you'll be denied, just means someone needs to review it. Claimyr should help you get connected to an agent who can tell you more about where your claim stands. The video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 explains how it works if you haven't watched it yet.

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You're doing everything right. Keep certifying, stay patient, and don't assume the worst from that pending status. Fingers crossed for you.

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Great that you updated - this is genuinely useful info for people in the same situation who google their way here. The pending + separation issue combo is just the standard adjudication trigger for any non-layoff separation. Normal part of the process.

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Keep us posted! And if you get the adjudication interview call, just be calm, factual, and honest. Stick to what actually happened without embellishing and you should be fine given what you described about your situation.

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late to this thread but wanted to add - if you do get approved, make sure you understand the ongoing requirements to STAY eligible. california edd can redetermine your eligibility at any point and they do periodic reviews. you need to be able and available to work (no scheduling restrictions that would prevent you from accepting full time work), actively looking for work, and certifying accurately each week. people sometimes get caught off guard by this later on.

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This is really helpful, I had no idea there were ongoing requirements beyond just certifying. I thought once you're approved you're set.

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Yeah it's an ongoing eligibility thing. 'Able and available' is a big one - if you have a medical issue, caregiving situation, or anything that would prevent you from accepting a job offer, that can affect your benefits. Just be honest on your certifications and you should be fine.

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The job search requirement is the one most people slip up on. After a few months of job searching it's tempting to get lazy about it but EDD can and does audit. I had a friend who got hit with an overpayment demand because she couldn't document her job search activities. Keep those records.

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