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Can I apply for California EDD unemployment if I got fired?

So I got let go from my job last week and I'm trying to figure out if I can even file for unemployment. My manager called me in and basically said they were "letting me go" but on my termination paperwork it says "involuntary separation." I worked there for about 2 years in a warehouse logistics role and never had any written warnings or formal disciplinary stuff on record. I'm honestly confused because I've heard that if you get fired you can't collect unemployment but I've also heard that's not always true. Does anyone know if being fired automatically disqualifies you from California EDD benefits or does it depend on why you were fired? I don't want to go through the whole application process and then get hit with a disqualification notice later. Any guidance would be really helpful right now.

Great news - getting fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from California EDD unemployment benefits. The key factor is WHY you were fired. California uses a legal standard called "misconduct" to determine eligibility. If you were laid off for lack of work, budget cuts, or a business decision, you're generally eligible. Even if you were fired, if EDD determines it wasn't due to "misconduct" as legally defined, you can still receive benefits. Misconduct under California law typically means intentional wrongdoing, willful disregard of employer interests, or repeated violations after warnings. Being let go for performance issues, making mistakes, or not being the right fit usually doesn't rise to that legal standard.

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This is really reassuring to hear. My manager mentioned something about "performance expectations" but there was nothing formally documented. Does that kind of vague reason work against me when EDD reviews the claim?

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Generally no - vague reasoning actually tends to work in your favor. EDD will contact your former employer and ask them to explain specifically why you were terminated. If they can't point to documented misconduct, the burden shifts to proving you did something intentionally wrong. Undocumented performance concerns rarely satisfy California's misconduct standard.

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yeah this is right, i got fired from a restaurant job a couple years ago for supposedly not following procedures and EDD approved me no problem. they asked me some questions and my former employer never even responded to EDD so i got approved by default basically

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To add to what was said above - when you file your California EDD claim online at UI Online, there's a section where you explain the reason for separation. Be honest and specific. Write something like "terminated by employer, reason given was performance expectations, no prior written warnings issued." Don't use the word "fired" if you can avoid it - "involuntary separation" or "terminated" are the terms EDD uses and they're more neutral. Your termination paperwork already says involuntary separation which is actually perfect language for your claim.

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Should I upload my termination paperwork as supporting documentation when I file? Or is that something I submit later if they ask?

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You can attach documentation during the initial filing or through your UI Online account after submitting. I'd recommend uploading it early - it shows you're being transparent and gives EDD the full picture right away. Also gather any emails or texts from your employer about the termination if you have them.

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wait so the wording actually matters?? I just wrote fired on mine and now i'm worried lol

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Filing is definitely worth doing in your situation. I was in a similar spot about 8 months ago - fired from a tech support job and I wasn't sure I'd qualify either. After I filed, EDD sent me a questionnaire asking me to describe the incident that led to my termination. I explained there was no specific incident, just general feedback about metrics. Got approved within 3 weeks. One thing that really helped me was actually talking to an EDD rep directly to understand where my claim stood. I tried calling on my own for days and couldn't get through - kept getting the "we're experiencing high call volume" recording. A friend told me about Claimyr (claimyr.com) and I used it to finally get connected to a live EDD agent. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - it was honestly a relief to just talk to someone who could look at my actual claim and confirm I was on the right track.

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I've been nervous about calling EDD because I've heard horror stories about never getting through. Good to know there are options. I'll check out that Claimyr link - did the agent actually help clarify your eligibility situation when you got through?

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Yeah the agent walked me through exactly what stage my claim was in and confirmed my separation reason had been reviewed. Super helpful to get that real-time info instead of just staring at UI Online wondering what's happening.

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I've tried calling EDD literally 47 times over two weeks and never got through. Going to look into that Claimyr thing because this is ridiculous

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same problem with the phones, they really need a better system

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ok so heres the thing a lot of people dont realize - even if your employer SAYS you were fired for misconduct, EDD makes their OWN determination. your employer doesnt get to just decide you dont qualify. EDD investigates both sides. ive seen people get approved even when their employer disputed the claim and called it gross misconduct. the process is fair even if it doesnt always feel that way

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That's really good to know. I was worried my former employer could just tell EDD whatever they wanted and I'd automatically lose.

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nope. EDD sends both you and your employer questionnaires and weighs both responses. if your employer claims misconduct they have to actually back it up with specifics and documentation. your side of the story matters

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This is accurate - the employer has the burden of proving misconduct in California. If they can't substantiate the claim with documentation or specific incidents, EDD typically rules in favor of the claimant.

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I went through this exact situation and want to share my experience. Got fired from a retail management job after my employer said I wasn't meeting sales floor expectations. Filed with California EDD the same week I was let go - which you should absolutely do right away because your benefit year starts from the week you file, not the week you were terminated. EDD sent me an "Additional Information Required" questionnaire about two weeks after I filed. I wrote out a clear timeline of my employment, noted there were no written warnings, and explained what my manager had told me verbally. Got approved and received my first payment about five weeks after filing total.

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Five weeks total - that's helpful to know for planning purposes. Did you have to do anything special while waiting for the determination or just certify your weekly claims?

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Yes - super important point. You need to keep certifying your weekly claims EVERY week even while your eligibility is still being reviewed. A lot of people don't realize this and miss weeks. If you get approved later, you'll receive back payments for the weeks you certified. If you forgot to certify a week, that week's payment is gone.

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Oh wow I didn't know that, thank you. So I should start certifying immediately even before I know if I'm approved?

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Exactly. File your initial claim first, then start certifying weekly claims starting with the week after you filed. Don't wait for approval.

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just to be clear you also need to meet the base period earnings requirements. its not just about why you were fired. you need to have earned enough wages in your base period (basically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters) to qualify. since you worked there 2 years you should be fine but just something to be aware of

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Good point - I didn't even think about the earnings requirements. I made around $48,000 last year so hopefully that's enough.

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yeah that's well above the minimum threshold, you're good

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what if someone only worked for like 4 months before getting fired? do they still qualify?

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It depends on earnings during the base period. California has a minimum earnings requirement - you generally need to have earned at least $1,300 in one quarter or $900 in the highest quarter AND total base period earnings of 1.25x that highest quarter amount. Four months of work might qualify depending on wages.

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THE CALIFORNIA EDD PHONE SYSTEM IS BROKEN. I'm sorry to derail but I've been trying to get clarity on my own fired-from-job claim for THREE WEEKS and I cannot get a single human being on the line. Every time I call I either get disconnected or sit on hold for 2+ hours and then get cut off. My claim is sitting in adjudication and I have NO IDEA why or what's happening. How is this acceptable in 2025??

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I feel this so much. Same situation here. It's genuinely awful.

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This is exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier in the thread. Seriously saved me when I was in the same boat with a claim stuck in adjudication. claimyr.com - they help you get through to an actual EDD agent without sitting on hold forever. Check the demo video too: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10

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Okay I just watched the video and I'm going to try this today because I am DESPERATE at this point. Three weeks of nothing is not okay when bills are due.

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please report back if it works, i'm in a similar spot

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Since you mentioned having no written warnings, here's a practical tip for when EDD sends you the claimant questionnaire: write out a clear, factual account organized chronologically. Start with your hire date, describe your role, note any positive performance reviews or feedback you received, then describe what happened leading to termination. Keep it factual and unemotional. Specifically state whether you received any written warnings, performance improvement plans, or formal disciplinary actions - and if not, say so clearly. This documentation is what EDD uses to evaluate whether your employer's termination reason rises to the level of legal misconduct.

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This is super helpful. I do actually have a positive performance review from about 8 months ago. Would it help to mention that in my response?

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Absolutely mention it and if you have documentation of it, submit a copy. A recent positive review followed by sudden termination significantly undercuts any misconduct claim by your employer. It supports the narrative that your separation was not due to intentional wrongdoing on your part.

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Agree with this completely. Positive reviews are powerful evidence during the EDD eligibility determination process.

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something nobody mentions - if you were fired and EDD initially denies your claim, you have the right to appeal. the appeal process is actually pretty accessible. you file an appeal with the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB) within 30 days of the denial notice. at the hearing you can present evidence and testimony. a lot of people win on appeal even after an initial denial so don't give up if you get a denial letter

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I really hope it doesn't come to that but good to know there's a safety net if the initial determination doesn't go my way.

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wait so if you get denied you can just appeal? i thought if EDD said no that was it

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Nope, definitely not final. The appeal is a full hearing before an administrative law judge. Both you and your employer can present evidence. It's more formal than the initial claim review but many claimants represent themselves successfully without a lawyer.

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Can I ask - does it matter that I got fired about 10 days ago and I haven't filed yet? Did I miss some kind of deadline?

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No hard deadline but you should file as soon as possible. Your benefit year starts from the week you file, NOT when you were terminated. Every week you wait is a week of potential benefits you can't get back. File today if you can at UI Online on the EDD website.

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Filing right now, thank you

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Good. Also note that there's a one-week unpaid waiting period built into California UI - the first week you're eligible but that first week you don't receive a payment. It's just how California unemployment works.

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i'm confused about one thing - the post says involuntary separation on the paperwork. does that mean the same thing as being fired? my paperwork said voluntary resignation but I definitely didn't quit, they basically pushed me out

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That's a really important distinction and a situation worth addressing directly with EDD. If your paperwork says voluntary resignation but you were actually forced out or constructively discharged (meaning conditions were made so intolerable you had no real choice but to leave), you may still qualify. File your claim and explain in your own words what actually happened. EDD will investigate.

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oh okay. my manager basically told me to resign or be fired so i signed the resignation. does that count as voluntary?

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Not necessarily. A resignation under threat of termination is often treated as an involuntary separation by EDD. Explain exactly what your manager said and the circumstances. The fact that you were given an ultimatum is significant.

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yeah this is called a forced resignation and EDD does consider context. definitely explain the ultimatum situation in your claim filing.

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Just adding my two cents from personal experience - I was fired for allegedly violating a company policy that I genuinely didn't know existed. Never received a copy of the employee handbook, never signed anything acknowledging the policy. EDD approved my claim pretty quickly because my employer couldn't show I had received notice of the policy I supposedly violated. Point being - if there are any gaps in your employer's documentation, that works in your favor.

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Interesting - so EDD actually looks at whether the employer properly communicated their expectations? That makes sense from a fairness standpoint.

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Yes exactly. You can't be held to a standard you were never told about. If your employer claims you violated a policy, EDD will want to see evidence you knew about and acknowledged that policy.

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this is why documentation cuts both ways. employers who keep terrible records often lose EDD disputes even when they think they have a solid case

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not sure if this helps but my cousin just went through this in January. got fired from a construction company, filed with California EDD the next day, had a phone interview with EDD about 3 weeks later where they asked him questions about the circumstances of the termination, and got approved. whole thing took about 6 weeks from filing to first payment. he said the phone interview was not that stressful, they just wanted to hear his side of the story

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A phone interview - I didn't know that was part of the process. Is that common or only for certain types of claims?

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From what my cousin said it happens when there's a dispute or question about the separation reason. If your employer contests the claim or if the reason isn't clear cut, EDD schedules a phone interview to get more details from you directly.

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This is accurate. Not every claim requires a phone interview but terminated/fired claims often trigger one because the separation reason needs to be verified. It's not a hearing or anything formal - just a phone call where an EDD rep asks you questions about your employment and termination.

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update from earlier in this thread - I tried Claimyr this morning after someone recommended it above. Got connected to an actual EDD agent in under an hour. Agent looked at my claim and told me it's been sitting in adjudication because my former employer submitted a response disputing misconduct. The agent explained what documentation I should submit through UI Online to support my side. Finally have a clear picture of what's happening after three weeks of nothing. Really glad I tried it - claimyr.com for anyone else struggling to get through to EDD.

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Wait this is actually you from earlier in the thread right? The one who was losing their mind over the phones? So it actually worked?

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Yes lol that was me. Genuinely surprised at how smooth it was after weeks of failure trying to call directly. If you're stuck just try it.

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okay this convinced me, going to use it tomorrow morning

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good to hear it worked out. hope your adjudication resolves in your favor

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One more thing worth knowing - after you file your initial California EDD claim, you'll receive a Notice of Unemployment Insurance Award (or a denial) in the mail. If approved, it shows your weekly benefit amount and your claim's benefit year dates. Make sure your address on file with EDD is current because all official notices go by mail even though most of the process happens online now. Missing a mailed notice can cause problems especially if there's a deadline to respond.

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My address hasn't changed so I should be fine but that's a really good reminder - I'll double check my profile in UI Online just to make sure.

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Also add EDD email notifications if you haven't already. You can set up email alerts in UI Online so you know when there's a new notice waiting for you even before the physical mail arrives.

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yes the email alerts are a lifesaver, i almost missed a response deadline once because i wasn't checking UI online enough

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For what it's worth - I work in HR and have been involved in EDD claims from the employer side. When an employee is terminated for performance reasons without documented progressive discipline (written warnings, PIPs, etc.), we almost never contest the unemployment claim because we know we'd lose. Honest employers know the difference between someone who was a bad fit versus someone who committed actual misconduct. If your company has any decent HR oversight they may not even dispute your claim.

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That's really reassuring to hear from someone on the employer side. My company is fairly large so hopefully they have proper HR processes that include not fighting claims they know they won't win.

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Large companies with in-house HR teams often have policies about when to contest claims. Straightforward performance-based terminations without documentation usually don't get contested. It costs the employer time and they know EDD's misconduct standard is hard to meet without solid evidence.

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This is the most validating thing I've read in this thread honestly

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sorry if this has been covered but do you have to do job searches while waiting to find out if you're even approved? like is that required immediately or only after approval?

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Yes, California requires you to conduct and document job searches starting from when you begin certifying weekly claims. You need to make three job search contacts per week and keep a record of them (employer name, date contacted, position, method of contact). EDD can audit your job search records so keep them organized.

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three per week, got it. do they have to be actual applications or can it be like reaching out to a contact in your network?

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Both count. Submitting a formal application, reaching out to a contact about potential openings, attending a job fair, creating or updating a profile on a job site - these all qualify. Just document each one with the required info.

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You also need to register with CalJOBS (California's job search system) within 21 days of filing. EDD will send you instructions but don't wait - register early at caljobs.ca.gov

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Going through the exact same situation right now, filed 9 days ago after being let go from a marketing agency. My UI Online account just shows "pending" with no other information. Is that normal at this stage or should I be worried about adjudication?

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Pending is totally normal at 9 days. Most claims show pending for 2-4 weeks while EDD processes the initial claim and contacts your former employer. Adjudication is a different status that shows up if there's a specific question about your eligibility. Plain pending just means they're still reviewing.

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Okay that makes me feel better. So I just keep certifying weekly and wait?

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Exactly. Certify every week on schedule, check UI Online regularly for any notices or required responses, and make sure you're logging your job searches. The waiting is the hardest part but just stay consistent with certifying.

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Same situation here, we're in it together. Good luck with your claim!

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I went through a messy termination situation and want to share what NOT to do. Don't badmouth your former employer in your EDD questionnaire responses. I made the mistake of going off about how unfair my manager was and how the whole company was dysfunctional. The EDD rep I eventually spoke to said it doesn't help your case and can actually make you look less credible. Just stick to the facts: dates, what was said, what documentation existed or didn't. Keep the emotion out of it even if you're furious.

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Really good advice. I'm definitely tempted to vent about how the situation was handled but I'll keep it professional and factual.

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Factual and neutral wins every time. Also, answer exactly what they ask and don't over-explain. If they ask when you were terminated, give the date. Don't add three paragraphs about everything leading up to it unless they specifically ask.

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This is excellent practical advice. Concise, factual responses are much more effective than emotional narratives in EDD determination processes.

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UPDATE: I filed my California EDD claim this morning! It went pretty smoothly through UI Online. I listed my separation reason as "involuntary separation - terminated by employer, performance expectations cited, no written warnings or formal discipline on record." Uploaded my termination paperwork as supporting documentation. Now in waiting mode. I'll keep certifying weekly and logging my job searches. Thank you to everyone in this thread - you made a stressful process feel much more manageable. Will post another update when I get a determination.

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Great job getting it filed quickly! You did everything right. Good luck with your determination - based on what you've described your situation sounds solid.

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Good luck! The waiting is annoying but you've set yourself up well. Keep those weekly certifications going no matter what.

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rooting for you, come back and let us know how it goes

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You've got this. And remember - if anything comes up in adjudication or you need to talk to someone at EDD directly to check your status, Claimyr is worth knowing about. Just in case you hit a wall trying to reach them by phone down the road.

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