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Brielle Johnson

Can you get unemployment and work part time in California EDD?

So my hours just got slashed from full time down to about 20 hours a week at my restaurant job. Manager said it's slow season and they're cutting everyone back. I'm trying to figure out if I can still collect unemployment benefits while working these reduced hours because honestly $200 a week before taxes isn't going to cover rent plus everything else. I filed a claim through myEDD last week but I have no idea how reporting my wages is supposed to work or if working at all disqualifies me from getting anything. Has anyone actually done this? Does the money I earn just cancel out the benefits completely or is there some kind of partial payment thing?

DE 429Z will tell you your weekly benefit amount once EDD processes everything, and that number is what matters for the math here. The way partial benefits work: take whatever you earn in a given week, subtract the first $25 or 25 percent of it (whichever of those two is bigger), and whatever's left gets taken off your weekly benefit amount. So if your weekly benefit ends up at $380 and you earn $200 in a week, 25 percent of $200 is $50, which is bigger than $25, so EDD subtracts $150 from your $380 and you get $230 in benefits on top of your $200 paycheck. You're definitely not disqualified just for working part time, as long as you're still available and looking for full time work.

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Wait so I report wages for the week I actually worked them, not when the paycheck hits my bank account? My pay period is biweekly so the timing has me confused.

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Exactly right, it's when you earned the wages, not when the deposit lands. So if you worked Monday through Friday of one week, all of that goes on that week's certification even if your direct deposit doesn't come until the following Friday.

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the formula above is right, just want to add that full time work in any single week means zero benefits for that week regardless of what you made, the partial pay formula only kicks in when it's part time hours

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Spent about four months on partial benefits last year while picking up shifts at a warehouse and the system worked pretty much as described above. Each certification period covers two weeks and you report what you earned in each of those weeks separately, not combined. UI Online has a Report Wages section you can use to work out each week's numbers before you certify, which helped me keep track. The tricky part is remembering to report every single dollar including tips if you have them, vacation payouts, anything like that.

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Tips too?? I get cash tips sometimes and honestly never thought about those. What happens if I forgot to include some in a past certification?

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Yeah tips absolutely count. If you underreported a past week you should contact EDD through a message in your UI Online account or phone them to fix it before it becomes an overpayment issue. Don't just let it sit.

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same, I had a week where I forgot to add some overtime and had to reach out through Ask EDD to get it corrected, took about two weeks but they adjusted it

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Reduced hours at a retail job put me in this exact situation earlier this year. My weekly benefit amount was $310 and I was making somewhere around $180 most weeks. After the formula the payments were still meaningful enough to keep things afloat. The part that took me forever was actually getting through to EDD by phone to ask about my specific situation before my first certification. Tried for three days straight and kept getting the system hang-up. Eventually used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get a live EDD agent on the phone without sitting on hold myself. There's a video explaining how reaching a live person at EDD works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. The agent confirmed which week my wages counted toward and double-checked that my CalJOBS registration had gone through, since my DE 8405 said I had 21 days to get that posted.

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CalJOBS registration is a whole other thing I haven't done yet and my application was about 10 days ago. Is that going to stop my payments?

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Get on that right away. The DE 8405 in your mail will show the deadline, it's usually 21 days from when that notice is dated. Missing it can hold up your payments so don't wait.

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I didn't get a DE 8405 at all, does everyone have to do CalJOBS? EDD told me some claimants are exempt but I don't know what makes you exempt or not

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EDD decides who needs it and who doesn't, the DE 8405 only goes to claimants who are required to register. If you never got one you're probably exempt, but if you're not sure a quick message through UI Online can confirm it

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NOBODY explains clearly that you still have to do work search activities every week even when you're already working part time hours. My claim got flagged because EDD wanted to verify I was looking for additional or full time work during the weeks I was certifying with partial wages. I had been assuming the part time job was enough to show I was engaged with the workforce or whatever and it's NOT. Keep records of your job applications regardless, seriously.

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To be clear EDD doesn't publish a specific number of contacts you need to make each week, so nobody can tell you exactly how many applications is enough. The requirement is that you're able, available, and looking. Keeping your own notes on where you applied is just a good habit.

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Fair correction, I shouldn't have made it sound like there's a quota. My point was just that having a part time job doesn't get you out of the work search requirement, which I genuinely did not realize.

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This is stressing me out because I've just been showing up to my reduced shifts and not applying anywhere else yet. I didn't realize I needed to be actively job hunting at the same time.

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Filed for partial UI two years ago when my catering company cut my hours to basically nothing during their slow period. The waiting week thing confused me at first. Your first certification covers the waiting week, which is unpaid, plus one paid week. So even if everything goes perfectly you're waiting a bit before you see money. Worth knowing going in so the timeline doesn't blindside you.

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How long does it usually take from filing to actually getting paid? I filed about 10 days ago and haven't heard anything.

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EDD says about three weeks to process a new claim and get the first payment out. And that's assuming no identity issues or eligibility questions come up. Your claim documents including the DE 429Z should arrive by mail around that time too.

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the DE 429Z is not an approval letter, just want to make sure people know that, it shows what your claim could pay but EDD still decides each week whether you're eligible based on what you certify

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Something that tripped me up when I was doing partial benefits: my employer paid out some unused vacation hours when my schedule got cut, and I didn't know whether to report that or not. Ended up reporting it because EDD's list of things to report definitely includes vacation pay, and the agent I eventually spoke with confirmed it was the right call. EDD handles the calculation of how it affects a given week's payment, you don't have to figure that part out yourself, just report it and let them do the math.

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I haven't gotten any vacation payout but that's good to know. What about if my employer gives me a holiday pay bump during the holidays even on reduced hours?

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Holiday pay is also on that list of things to report. Same rule applies, report what you earned that week and EDD decides how it adjusts the payment.

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severance is different though right? I heard severance doesn't count as wages

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To answer the severance question above: EDD's rules say severance paid under a company plan or policy isn't counted as wages for UI purposes, so it doesn't get you denied. You still report it when certifying because EDD asks about it, and EDD makes the final call on how it's treated. It doesn't mean you should just skip reporting it.

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ok that makes sense, so report it and let EDD sort out what it does to that week. got it

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Exactly, that's the right approach for pretty much anything you're unsure about. Report it and let EDD determine the impact rather than making that call yourself and potentially creating an overpayment issue.

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Partial UI definitely helped me bridge a gap but the Money Network debit card took me by surprise. First payment hits a prepaid card EDD mails you unless you set up direct deposit in myEDD before they process anything. If you want direct deposit instead, change it in your myEDD account as soon as possible. Payments in UI Online update daily so you can keep an eye on what's coming.

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I didn't even know there was a card coming in the mail. I'll watch for that. Can you change to direct deposit after you already get the card?

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Yes you can switch to direct deposit through myEDD at any point, but there can be a slight lag while the change processes so the sooner the better.

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Also check UI Online's Payments section regularly, that's where you'll see exactly what posted and when. Much easier than waiting for the card to show activity

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My hours dropped at my dental office job and I was paranoid about the whole part time earnings thing so I called EDD before my first certification just to walk through the formula with an actual person. Good thing I did because I had been thinking the $25 or 25% disregard applied to my total biweekly earnings instead of each individual week. Would have underreported pretty badly.

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Each week separately is what someone said above and now I'm realizing I need to really pay attention to this. My pay stubs show biweekly totals so I'd have to split it out by week.

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Your timesheet or schedule should show which hours fell in which week. Some employers will give you a weekly breakdown if you ask, especially if you explain you need it for unemployment reporting.

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reporting correctly is so important, underpaying yourself or overstating earnings both cause problems down the line

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The one thing I'll add that nobody has mentioned yet: if your employer ever brings you back to full time hours, even for just one week, you need to report that correctly because you'd earn zero benefits for that specific week. Some people assume a little overtime here and there doesn't matter but it does for that particular week's claim.

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Good point. And if your employer eventually eliminates the part time position entirely you'd just continue certifying as fully unemployed, no special step needed beyond that change in what you report.

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Makes sense. So the certification itself is where everything gets reported and adjusted, it's not like I'd have to call EDD every time something changes at work, just report it accurately each period?

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Exactly right. The certification captures it all. The only time you'd want to actually contact EDD is if you need to correct a past week or if something unusual comes up with your claim status.

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Taxes are a thing people always forget about with UI. Those partial benefit payments count as federal taxable income. You can opt into 10 percent federal withholding at each certification which is probably worth doing so you don't get a surprise bill in April. California doesn't tax UI benefits though so the state side is fine.

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This is correct and EDD mails a Form 1099G in January for whatever you received in the prior year. If you went paperless it's also in UI Online under Payments.

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I had no idea UI was taxable federally. Definitely setting up withholding when I certify, don't want to deal with that at tax time.

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To bring it back to the original question here: yes, working part time and collecting UI at the same time is completely valid in California. The key is accurate certification every two weeks, reporting each week's earnings separately in the week they were earned, staying available for full time work, and keeping up with any CalJOBS requirement if EDD sent you a DE 8405. The partial payment formula means your benefits get reduced by what you earn beyond the disregard amount, but you won't just lose everything because you have some income coming in.

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This is probably the clearest summary in the thread, thank you. I'm going to get my CalJOBS registration done today since I'm cutting it close on the deadline apparently.

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also worth mentioning EDD has a benefits calculator on edd.ca.gov where you can estimate your weekly amount before the DE 429Z arrives, helps with budgeting while you wait

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Good addition. The estimate from that calculator is close but the actual number comes from your base period wages so the DE 429Z is the official figure. Use the calculator for rough planning but don't budget down to the cent based on it.

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Went through partial UI for about seven months total and the thing that saved me from mistakes was keeping a simple spreadsheet: week dates, hours worked, gross earnings for the week, what I reported. Sounds tedious but it takes five minutes and you have a paper trail if EDD ever questions anything.

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That's actually a really practical idea. I've just been keeping mental notes which is obviously not great.

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mental notes with biweekly pay cycles is a disaster waiting to happen, the spreadsheet approach is way smarter

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Even a notes app on your phone works, just something with dates and dollar amounts so you're not trying to reconstruct it from memory months later

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Quick warning from my own experience: I had an overpayment notice show up after my partial UI period because one week's wages were reported in the wrong certification period. I reported a week's earnings in the following two-week period by mistake. It wasn't fraud or anything intentional but I still had to pay it back. EDD gives you a Notice of Overpayment and you can appeal within 30 days if you think it's wrong, or ask about a waiver if you genuinely couldn't help the error.

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The waiver form is the DE 1446UI. It's for non-fraud overpayments where repaying would be an extraordinary hardship. EDD has to agree it wasn't your fault and wasn't fraud. It's not guaranteed but it exists.

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Right, and you can keep certifying while an appeal is in progress so you don't lose out on future weeks while the dispute gets sorted out.

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that is really important about certifying through an appeal, I've seen people stop certifying thinking there's no point and then find out later they can't get paid for those weeks retroactively

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My schedule at a hotel went down to three days a week for about five months and partial UI covered the gap reasonably well. The EDD agent I spoke with through Claimyr on a week when my UI Online showed a pending week I couldn't explain told me the hold was for an identity verification step, the DE 1326C. Getting that cleared up got the pending weeks released pretty quickly after I handled the ID.me verification. The agent also confirmed my wages had been posting correctly from prior certifications.

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How did you know to look at the pending status? Is that in the Claim History section?

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Yes, Claim History in UI Online is where pending weeks show up. Each week shows either pending or what was paid. If weeks are sitting in pending with no explanation it usually means EDD is waiting on something from your end or needs to make an eligibility determination.

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Pending in Claim History is normal for the first few weeks but if weeks stay pending for more than three weeks after you've certified it's worth reaching out to EDD to find out what's holding it

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Nobody mentioned what happens if EDD schedules a phone interview because there's some question about your eligibility. If you got your hours cut by the same employer you've been at, there usually isn't one. But if EDD has any question about your availability or your work situation they send a DE 4800 notice with the date and time for the interview. The interviewer phones at the time listed on that notice, so keep your phone nearby. Missing it means EDD makes a decision based only on what they already have, which usually isn't great.

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I haven't gotten a DE 4800, so hopefully that means EDD doesn't have any eligibility questions about my situation. Hours cut by the same employer, nothing weird happened.

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That's usually a straightforward situation so a phone interview is less likely, but if one does show up in the mail you'll see the time on your UI Online homepage too.

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if a DE 4800 arrives, reschedule it at least one day before the listed time if you have any conflict, don't just skip it and hope for the best

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My store dropped me from 40 hours to 15 when they lost a big contract, and during that partial UI stretch I tried calling EDD a few times with specific wage reporting questions. Getting through was rough. Used Claimyr to get an agent to pick up without me sitting on hold, asked about whether commission I'd earned in a previous week but got paid weeks later belonged to the week worked or the week paid. Agent said wages go in the week they were earned, which lined up with what people say here, but it was good to have it confirmed for my specific situation before I certified.

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Commission specifically is the kind of thing I could see getting confusing since the check comes so much later than the work. Glad you got that confirmed.

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Yeah commissions, tips, any performance pay, all of it goes to the week the work happened. If you have anything unusual like that it's worth confirming directly rather than guessing.

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For anyone with direct deposit already set up: payments usually show up in UI Online within 24 hours of certifying online. The automated line at 1-866-333-4606 also gives payment updates 24 hours a day if you just want to check without logging in. Helped me keep track during my partial UI period without having to keep opening the app.

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I did not know about that phone line for checking payments, that's handy. Easier than logging in every time.

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Option 2 on that line is EDD Tele-Cert too, so you can actually certify by phone through it if you ever have trouble with UI Online.

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the Tele-Cert option saved me once when UI Online was having issues during a certification window, good backup to know about

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Last thing on the partial benefits math that sometimes confuses people: the $25 or 25 percent rule is based on your gross earnings for the week, not what actually lands in your bank account after taxes. So don't use your net paycheck amount when you certify, use gross wages before any deductions come out.

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Gross wages, got it. My pay stubs do show both so that's easy enough to check.

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This is an important detail. Certifying with net instead of gross would underreport your earnings which could create an overpayment situation later. Always gross.

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Exactly, and your pay stub shows gross right at the top usually, it's the number before taxes, insurance, 401k contributions and all of that come out

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Worried about one specific scenario: what if EDD decides my hour reduction doesn't qualify because I'm still employed? Like technically still have a job just fewer hours. Does being still employed with the same company disqualify you from UI?

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Still being employed isn't disqualifying on its own. What matters is whether your earnings in a given week are low enough that partial benefits are possible under the formula. Having your hours cut by your existing employer is exactly the situation partial UI is designed for.

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ok that makes more sense, I kept reading stuff that made it sound like you had to be fully unemployed to qualify

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The requirement is that you're available for full time work and your earnings have dropped enough that you'd receive at least some benefit amount after the formula. Partial employment by itself is not a barrier.

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