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Ingrid Larsson

California severance package: Will unused PTO/vacation be paid out with job ending?

My employer just announced they're not renewing our contract at the end of this month. I'm the only employee based in California (everyone else is scattered across different states). We're getting severance packages, but I'm confused about whether CA law requires them to pay out my unused PTO and vacation days (about 18 days accumulated). The payroll person has given incorrect info before to other employees, and when I tried contacting her directly, I got an out-of-office reply. Should I try to use up all my vacation days before the contract ends, or will California law protect me and guarantee I get paid for them? Anyone dealt with this before? Need to decide quickly since we only have a few weeks left!

Yes, California definitely requires employers to pay out unused vacation time upon termination - it's considered earned wages. This is true regardless of whether you quit, are laid off, or your contract ends. PTO that combines sick leave and vacation might be handled differently, but pure vacation time MUST be paid out at your final rate of pay. Don't use it up - get it paid out instead. It's actually better financially since you'll be working AND getting paid for those vacation days in your final check.

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Thank you! So even though the company is based in Texas (where our payroll person is), since I work in California, they have to follow CA law for me specifically? That's a relief. I was worried I'd have to rush and use all my vacation days in the next 3 weeks.

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when i left my last job they tried to not pay my vacation out but i called HR and mentioned california law and they fixed it right away. just make sure u get it in writing somwhere that u have 18 days saved up before ur last day!!

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Good point! I'm going to screenshot my current balance from our time-off system right now. Did you have any issues with your final paycheck being delayed? I'm worried they'll drag their feet on this.

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I went through something similar last year. In California, they HAVE to pay out vacation time regardless of company policy - it's state law. However, be careful because PTO might be different than vacation. Some companies have policies where PTO combines sick leave and vacation, and sick leave might not be required to be paid out. Also, they're required to give you your final check WITH the vacation payout on your last day if it's a layoff situation. If they don't, they can face waiting time penalties (up to 30 days of your daily wage).

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NOT TRUE!!!! they dont have to pay out sick time only vacation time!!!! the laws really confusing on this my brother lost like 2 weeks of sick time when his job ended

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When you apply for unemployment, make SURE you mention this contract ending situation during your interview. This is important because they need to know it's a layoff rather than you being fired for cause. Also, if the payroll person messes up and doesn't pay your vacation, you can file a wage claim with the California Labor Commissioner's Office. I had to do this once and got all my money plus interest!

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I hadn't even thought about how this affects unemployment yet. Thanks for bringing that up. Do you know if the severance package will delay when I can start receiving unemployment benefits? I've never been through this before.

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I'll check this out, thanks. I've heard horror stories about trying to get someone on the phone at EDD.

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I just went thru this!!!! Company tried to say they didnt have to pay out my vacation time cuz they have offices in diffrent states but i reminded them im protected by CA law. They have to pay ALL unused vacation/PTO that you've earned (but not sick time). Its in labor code section 227.3. print it out and send it to ur payroll lady when she gets back just in case!!!!

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wait are you going to file for unemployment??? cuz i think severence affects when u can start getting benefits i think u cant get benefits until after severence period ends but not sure about the pto payout

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You're partially right - severance can delay unemployment benefits because it's considered wages. However, PTO/vacation payouts are treated differently. Even though they're paid out in your final check, the EDD generally doesn't count them as wages that delay your eligibility for benefits. They're considered earned in the past, not as ongoing income.

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One more thing to be aware of - make sure your final paystub clearly itemizes the vacation payout separately from regular wages and severance. This will be important for both tax purposes and for your EDD claim. If they lump it all together, request a corrected paystub that shows the breakdown. You'll need this documentation when applying for unemployment to show exactly what portion was severance vs. vacation payout.

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if they try to not pay u the DLSE can help, its the labor commissioner and they'll make ur employer pay up plus penelties. my friend had to do this and got even more money lol

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Hopefully it won't come to that, but good to know there's a way to fight it if needed. I'm going to draft an email to HR right now asking them to confirm in writing that my unused vacation days will be paid out according to California law. Thanks everyone for the helpful info!

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Just wanted to add that you should also check if your company has any written vacation policy in your employee handbook or contract. Even though CA law requires payout regardless, having their own policy in writing makes it even stronger if you need to push back. Also, since you mentioned they're scattered across states, make sure they understand that California's "use it or lose it" policies are actually ILLEGAL here - vacation time is considered earned wages that can never be forfeited. Document everything and don't let them try to apply some other state's rules to your situation!

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Great point about checking the employee handbook! I actually just pulled mine and it does say vacation time is paid out upon termination, but it's pretty vague. Since you mentioned "use it or lose it" policies being illegal in CA - does that mean even if a company has a policy saying you can only carry over X days to the next year, they still have to pay out everything you've earned? I'm wondering if there are any limits on how much vacation time they have to pay out.

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Yes, California law prohibits "use it or lose it" policies completely! Even if your company has a policy about carrying over limited vacation days, they cannot forfeit any vacation time you've already earned. However, companies CAN cap how much vacation you can accrue going forward (like stopping you from earning more once you hit 1.5-2x your annual allowance), but they can never take away what you've already earned. So if you have 18 days saved up, they must pay out all 18 days regardless of any company policy. The key is that vacation time is considered "vested" wages in California - once you earn it, it's yours forever until you use it or get paid for it!

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This is super helpful! I had no idea about the accrual cap thing - that makes sense why some companies might limit how much you can build up going forward. My company actually does have a cap (I think it's 240 hours), but I'm nowhere near that limit with my 18 days. It's reassuring to know that California really does protect employees on this stuff. I'm feeling much more confident about getting my vacation time paid out now. Thanks for explaining the "vested wages" concept - that really clarifies why they can't just decide not to pay it!

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Just want to add another important point - since your contract is ending at the end of this month, make sure you get clarity on whether they're treating this as a "layoff" vs "contract completion" for EDD purposes. Sometimes companies try to classify contract endings differently, but if it's truly not being renewed due to business reasons (not your performance), it should be treated as a layoff for unemployment eligibility. Also, definitely get that vacation payout confirmation in writing BEFORE your last day - don't wait until the final paycheck to discover there's an "issue." California gives you a lot of protection here, but it's always easier to sort things out while you're still employed rather than having to file complaints afterward!

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This is really smart advice about getting the classification clarified! I hadn't thought about how they might try to frame it as "contract completion" vs layoff. Since they literally said they're "not renewing our contract" due to business reasons, that should definitely count as a layoff situation. I'm going to make sure to ask HR for written confirmation on both the vacation payout AND how they're classifying the separation when I email them. Better to have everything documented upfront rather than dealing with surprises later. Thanks for thinking ahead on this - I definitely don't want any complications with my unemployment claim on top of everything else!

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - make sure to ask about the timing of your final paycheck! In California, if you're being laid off (which sounds like your situation), they're required to give you your final paycheck INCLUDING the vacation payout on your last day of work. They can't mail it to you later or make you wait for the next regular pay cycle. If they try to delay it, they owe you "waiting time penalties" which is basically one day's wages for each day they're late (up to 30 days). This is separate from the vacation payout requirement - it's about WHEN they have to pay you everything they owe. Given that your payroll person has given incorrect info before, I'd specifically ask HR to confirm they understand California's final paycheck timing requirements too!

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