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Rhett Bowman

Is a 'no income statement' just a signed letter for CalFresh verification?

So I'm in the middle of my CalFresh application and my county worker called saying I need to provide a 'no income statement' since I reported $0 income on my application. Is this just me writing a letter stating I have no income, signing and dating it? Or is there an official form? The worker said she'd mail something but it's been 10 days and nothing arrived. My application is pending and I'm getting anxious because I only have 2 weeks left before they deny me for not providing verification. Anyone gone through this recently?

Abigail Patel

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Yes, a no income statement is usually just a self-written letter explaining how you're supporting yourself with no income. Make sure to include: 1) Your name and case number 2) Statement that you have no income 3) Explanation of how you're covering basic needs (family help, savings, etc) 4) Time period covered 5) Your signature and date. Some counties have a form, but most accept a simple letter. Don't wait for mail - write this up today and submit through BenefitsCal or drop it off at your county office to avoid delays.

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Rhett Bowman

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Thanks so much! Should I mention that I'm living with my cousin who's covering rent/utilities while I look for work? Or is that going to complicate things? And do I need to get anything notarized?

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Daniel White

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OMG I went thru this exact situation last month!!! They are SO SLOW with mailing forms. I waited 2 weeks and finally called to ask about it. The worker said I could just write it myself but never told me that initially?!!? So frustrating. I wrote a letter saying "I have no income from any source including employment, self-employment, unemployment, disability, child support or any other source" and signed it. Got approved 4 days later. Hope this helps!!

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Nolan Carter

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yea this is pretty standard. they want u to write it urself bc then if u lie its on u. i did this twice last yr when i was between jobs. not a big deal just write a quick note and upload to benefitscal

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Natalia Stone

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The 'No Income Statement' is just a self-attestation document that you write yourself. It should include: 1. Your full name and case number 2. Clear statement that you have no income from any source 3. Explanation of how you're meeting basic needs (who's supporting you) 4. Signature and date If you're receiving help from your cousin, you should mention that, but be careful - if your cousin is buying food specifically for you, that could be considered income. If they're just covering rent/utilities and you buy your own food, make that clear. No need for notarization - just a signed statement. Upload it to BenefitsCal ASAP or call your worker to confirm receipt. If you're having trouble reaching your worker by phone, I recommend trying Claimyr (claimyr.com) - they'll get you through to a live person at the county office without the endless hold times. They have a quick video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/eZ19FHRETv8?si=_CXnXqNXbLl26WB8

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Rhett Bowman

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This is super helpful, thank you! I'll definitely make it clear that I buy my own food with some savings I still have. I've been calling for 3 days with no luck - I'll check out that Claimyr service if I can't get through by tomorrow.

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Tasia Synder

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I had to do this for my recertification in January. I wrote a letter saying I had no income and was living off my savings. They denied me anyway because they said I didn't explain HOW I was paying my bills with no income! Had to appeal and explain everything all over again. Make sure you're VERY specific about how you're covering ALL expenses - housing, utilities, phone, transportation, everything. The more detail the better.

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Rhett Bowman

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Oh wow, I didn't realize I needed to be that detailed! Thank you for sharing your experience. I'll make sure to break down exactly how each expense is covered.

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u dont need fancy letter just write it on regular paper n sign it thats what i did. they just need something in your file to cover their a** if theres an audit later. as long as u sign and date it ur good

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I think the general consensus is clear - yes, it's just a self-written statement. But I want to point out something important: this document is legally binding. If you state you have no income but are actually working under the table or have other unreported income, that's fraud and can result in serious penalties including paying back benefits and potentially legal consequences. CalFresh regularly matches their records with tax filings, unemployment data, and other systems. Always be 100% honest on these statements.

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Daniel White

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This is so true!!! My neighbor got caught when she said she had no income but was actually getting paid cash for babysitting. Someone reported her and she had to pay back like $2300 in benefits plus got disqualified for a year!

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Rhett Bowman

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Update: I wrote the letter with all the details everyone suggested and uploaded it to BenefitsCal yesterday. Just got a text message that my application was approved! The no income statement worked. Thanks everyone for your help! For anyone else reading this later - definitely include how you're covering ALL your expenses (rent, utilities, food, phone, etc) and be specific about who's helping you if applicable.

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Abigail Patel

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Fantastic news! Glad it worked out. Just remember that if your income situation changes, you need to report it within 10 days if it puts you over the Income Reporting Threshold (IRT) listed on your approval notice. Congrats on getting your benefits!

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Congrats on getting approved! This is such a helpful thread - I'm bookmarking it because I'm sure I'll need to do this when my recertification comes up. One question for the group: if someone is helping with groceries occasionally (like a parent buying groceries once a month), does that need to be reported as income? I want to make sure I'm prepared and don't run into issues like some of the experiences shared here.

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Luca Bianchi

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Great question! If someone is buying groceries specifically for you on a regular basis (like monthly), that could be considered "in-kind" income and should probably be reported. However, if it's just occasional help (like maybe they pick up a few things when shopping for themselves), it's more of a gray area. The key is "regular and ongoing" vs "occasional assistance." When in doubt, I'd mention it in your statement to be safe - something like "I occasionally receive help with groceries from my parent but this is not regular or guaranteed support." Better to over-disclose than get caught later!

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Lucas Parker

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This is such a comprehensive thread! I'm currently dealing with a similar situation and this has been incredibly helpful. One tip I'd add for anyone else going through this: if you're uploading your no income statement through BenefitsCal, make sure the image is clear and all text is readable. I had to resubmit mine twice because the photo was too blurry and they couldn't read my signature. Also, keep a copy for your records - you might need to reference it later during recertification or if any questions come up. The whole process is stressful but knowing what to expect really helps!

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Lindsey Fry

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This is such great advice about the photo quality! I learned this the hard way with other documents - always check that everything is legible before uploading. Your tip about keeping a copy is spot on too. I'd also suggest taking a screenshot of the confirmation page after you upload it to BenefitsCal so you have proof it was submitted on time. The whole system can be overwhelming when you're new to it, but threads like this really help demystify the process. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Just wanted to add my recent experience since this thread has been so helpful! I went through this process last week and want to emphasize something that wasn't mentioned yet - if you're receiving any kind of assistance from charities, food banks, or churches, you should probably mention that too in your statement. I initially didn't think to include that I get meals from a local food pantry twice a month, but my worker asked about it during the interview. It didn't disqualify me (food assistance isn't counted as income), but she said it was good that I mentioned it because it showed how I was supplementing my food needs. Also, if you have any documentation like bank statements showing your savings balance, it can help support your claim that you're living off savings rather than unreported income. The whole process took about 2 weeks from when I submitted my statement to approval.

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Darren Brooks

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This is really valuable information, thank you for sharing! I hadn't thought about mentioning food bank assistance but that makes total sense - it shows you're being resourceful and honest about how you're meeting your needs. Your point about bank statements is smart too. I'm curious - did your worker specifically ask to see bank statements or did you offer them proactively? I have some savings that I'm living off of and I'm wondering if I should mention the approximate amount in my statement or if that might actually hurt my chances of approval. It's so helpful to hear real experiences like yours!

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