UCC termination for ampere solar master tenant iii, llc - original filing questions
Need guidance on handling a UCC termination for ampere solar master tenant iii, llc. We're the secured party on equipment financing that's been paid off but the entity name is throwing me off when preparing the UCC-3 termination statement. The original UCC-1 was filed about 3 years ago for solar panel equipment and now that the loan is satisfied we need to properly terminate the lien. My concern is whether the exact entity name formatting matters as much for terminations as it does for original filings. The debtor name on our original filing shows 'Ampere Solar Master Tenant III, LLC' but I'm seeing some variations in their recent business filings. Should I match exactly what's on the UCC-1 or can there be some flexibility with punctuation and capitalization for termination statements? This is holding up our loan closing department since we have several similar solar equipment deals in the pipeline and want to make sure we're handling the termination process correctly. Has anyone dealt with similar entity naming issues on UCC-3 terminations?
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GalaxyGuardian
You definitely want to match the debtor name exactly as it appears on the original UCC-1 filing. Any deviation in spelling, punctuation, or capitalization could cause the termination to be rejected or not properly clear the lien record. Pull up your original filing and copy the debtor name character for character.
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Aisha Abdullah
•This is correct. I learned this the hard way when a termination got rejected because I used 'Inc' instead of 'Inc.' - that one period made all the difference.
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Ethan Wilson
•Agreed, exact match is critical. The filing system doesn't interpret variations as the same entity.
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Yuki Tanaka
Just went through something similar with a solar equipment deal. The key is to use the exact debtor name from the original UCC-1. If you're unsure, pull the filing from the Secretary of State database and copy it exactly. Solar companies especially tend to have complex entity structures so precision matters.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•That's exactly what I was worried about. These solar deals have such specific entity naming conventions. I'll pull the original filing to be safe.
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Carmen Diaz
•Smart approach. Better to spend 5 minutes verifying than dealing with rejected terminations later.
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Andre Laurent
I've been handling UCC terminations for solar equipment financing for years and name accuracy is absolutely crucial. What I started doing recently is using Certana.ai's document verification tool - you can upload your original UCC-1 and the draft UCC-3 termination and it will instantly flag any name discrepancies or other issues. It's saved me from multiple filing rejections by catching things like missing commas or incorrect entity designations before submission.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•That sounds really helpful. Does it work with PDF uploads of the original filings?
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Andre Laurent
•Yes exactly - just upload both PDFs and it cross-checks everything automatically. Much faster than manual comparison.
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AstroAce
•I second this recommendation. The tool caught a debtor name mismatch that would have delayed our loan closing by weeks.
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Zoe Kyriakidou
ugh why do these solar companies have to make their entity names so complicated?? I swear every one has like Roman numerals and multiple LLCs in the name. Makes the whole UCC process way more stressful than it needs to be.
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Jamal Brown
•Tell me about it. I've seen 'Master Tenant IV, LLC' and 'Master Tenant 4, LLC' as different entities. The Roman numeral vs regular number thing is a nightmare.
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Yuki Tanaka
•It's because of how they structure their financing vehicles for different projects. Each development gets its own entity.
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Mei Zhang
For terminations you absolutely need to match the original UCC-1 debtor name exactly. I handle a lot of equipment financing terminations and even small variations like 'LLC' vs 'L.L.C.' can cause rejections. The filing systems are very literal about name matching for termination statements.
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Liam McConnell
•This is why I always keep copies of original UCC-1s in our loan files. Makes termination prep so much easier.
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Amara Oluwaseyi
•Good practice. We do the same thing now after having issues with name variations.
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CosmicCaptain
Had this exact situation last month with a different solar entity. The trick is to use the Secretary of State search function to find your original UCC-1 filing and copy the debtor name directly from there. Don't rely on loan documents or other paperwork since they might have slight variations.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•That's a great point about not using loan docs. I was about to copy from our credit agreement which might have formatting differences.
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GalaxyGuardian
•Exactly - credit agreements often have different capitalization or spacing than what actually got filed on the UCC-1.
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Aisha Abdullah
•I made that mistake once and the termination bounced back. Now I always use the filed UCC-1 as the source.
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Giovanni Rossi
Just to add another perspective - if you're doing a lot of these solar equipment terminations, consider setting up a workflow where you always verify the debtor name against the original filing before preparing the UCC-3. We've found that using automated tools like Certana's document checker helps catch these issues early in the process.
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Fatima Al-Maktoum
•That's smart workflow management. Prevents the back-and-forth of rejected filings.
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Andre Laurent
•Absolutely - the automated verification saves so much time compared to manual checking.
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Dylan Mitchell
Quick question - are you filing the termination in the same state where the original UCC-1 was filed? Just want to make sure you're not dealing with any interstate filing complications on top of the name matching issue.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Yes same state, thankfully. The solar equipment is all located in our jurisdiction so no multi-state complications.
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Dylan Mitchell
•Good, that keeps it simple. Just focus on getting that debtor name exactly right then.
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Sofia Gutierrez
I've handled probably 50+ UCC terminations for solar equipment deals and the debtor name matching is always the biggest potential issue. My advice is to be absolutely paranoid about accuracy - even extra spaces can cause problems. If you have any doubt at all, use a verification tool or have someone else double-check before filing.
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Dmitry Petrov
•50+ terminations is impressive experience. Any other common pitfalls to watch out for with solar equipment UCC work?
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Sofia Gutierrez
•Make sure your collateral description matches too if you're doing a partial termination. Solar deals often have equipment added over time.
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Yuki Tanaka
•That's a good point about partial terminations. Full terminations are usually straightforward but partials need careful collateral matching.
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StarSurfer
Thanks for posting this question - I'm dealing with a similar solar equipment termination next week and this thread is really helpful. Sounds like the consensus is to match the original UCC-1 debtor name exactly and use verification tools if available.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Glad it's helpful! I'm definitely going to use the document verification approach mentioned earlier.
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GalaxyGuardian
•Good luck with your termination. The exact name matching approach will save you headaches.
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Lucas Parker
Just wanted to share my experience with a similar situation - we had a UCC termination rejected last year because the debtor name had an extra space between "Master" and "Tenant" that wasn't in the original filing. The filing office's system is completely literal about character matching. I now always do a side-by-side comparison of the original UCC-1 and the draft UCC-3 before submitting. For solar deals especially, I've found it helpful to save a digital copy of every original UCC-1 in a dedicated folder since these entity names can be so complex with the Roman numerals and multiple LLC designations.
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Miguel Silva
•That's exactly the kind of detail that can trip you up! An extra space seems so minor but the filing systems don't care about human logic. Your approach of keeping digital copies of original UCC-1s is smart - I'm going to start doing that too. These solar entity names are definitely more complex than typical commercial deals.
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Emily Parker
This is such a timely discussion for me as a newer member here. I'm working on my first solar equipment UCC termination and was second-guessing myself on the name matching requirements. Reading through everyone's experiences really drives home how critical exact character matching is - I had no idea that even spacing differences could cause rejections. The recommendation to pull the original UCC-1 directly from the Secretary of State database rather than relying on loan documents is particularly valuable advice I wouldn't have thought of. I'm definitely going to look into those document verification tools mentioned as well, especially since we're expecting more solar deals in our pipeline. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences!
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