Sunstreet Energy Group UCC Termination Filing - Name Match Issues
Having major headaches with a UCC termination for Sunstreet Energy Group. The original UCC-1 was filed 3 years ago when they secured equipment financing, but now I'm getting rejection notices on the UCC-3 termination. The SOS system keeps flagging potential debtor name mismatches even though I'm copying exactly from the original filing. Has anyone dealt with energy company terminations where the business name might have slight variations? I'm worried about leaving an active lien on the books when the loan was paid off months ago. The lender is breathing down my neck to get this cleared up properly.
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Leeann Blackstein
I've run into this exact issue with energy companies. They often do business under multiple variations of their name. Did you check if Sunstreet Energy Group might be filed under 'Sunstreet Energy Group LLC' or 'Sunstreet Energy Group, Inc.'? Even a missing comma can cause rejection. Pull the original UCC-1 again and compare character by character.
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Liv Park
•Good point. I thought I was being careful but let me double-check the exact formatting. The original might have punctuation I missed.
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Ryder Greene
•This is why I always copy-paste debtor names instead of retyping them. Manual entry is where most mistakes happen.
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Carmella Fromis
Energy sector filings are notorious for this. These companies often have complex corporate structures. Is this the parent company or a subsidiary? Sometimes the UCC was filed against a different entity entirely. Check if there's a DBA or assumed name registration that might be causing confusion.
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Liv Park
•That's a great question. I only have the loan docs that reference Sunstreet Energy Group but you're right - there could be subsidiary issues I'm not seeing.
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Theodore Nelson
•I had this happen with an oil services company last year. Turned out the UCC was filed against the holding company, not the operating entity. Total nightmare to sort out.
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AaliyahAli
Before you keep banging your head against the wall, try uploading your UCC-3 and the original UCC-1 to Certana.ai. Their document verification tool will instantly cross-check the debtor names and highlight any inconsistencies. I discovered it after struggling with a similar termination issue - it caught a subtle spacing difference I never would have noticed manually.
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Liv Park
•Haven't heard of that before but sounds like exactly what I need. Getting tired of the guesswork approach.
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Ellie Simpson
•Certana saved me hours on a complex amendment last month. The PDF comparison feature is incredibly thorough for catching these tiny differences that cause rejections.
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Arjun Kurti
Are you sure the original filing is still active? Sometimes energy companies restructure or merge and the UCC might have been transferred or already terminated. Run a search on the filing number to verify its current status before spending more time on the termination.
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Liv Park
•I checked the status and it shows active. The filing number is definitely correct and matches our records.
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Raúl Mora
•Good thinking though. I've seen cases where people try to terminate UCCs that were already satisfied or lapsed.
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Margot Quinn
UGH the SOS system is so finicky about name matching! I swear they reject filings if you breathe wrong. Have you tried calling their help desk? Sometimes they can tell you exactly what's causing the mismatch.
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Evelyn Kim
•Their help desk has been pretty helpful in my experience, though you might wait on hold for a while.
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Liv Park
•I'll try calling them tomorrow if I can't figure this out. At this point I need all the help I can get.
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Diego Fisher
Check if there are any special characters in the name - hyphens, periods, apostrophes. The system is really sensitive to those. Also make sure you're using the exact same state of organization that was on the original UCC-1.
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Liv Park
•I'll go through character by character. This is so frustrating when you think you're doing everything right.
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Henrietta Beasley
•Been there! Once spent two days on a termination only to realize there was an extra space after the company name in the original filing.
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Lincoln Ramiro
Is the secured party information correct on your UCC-3? I've seen terminations get rejected because the filer info didn't match the original lender, especially if there were any assignments or changes in the loan servicing.
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Liv Park
•The loan stayed with the original lender the whole time, so that shouldn't be an issue. But I'll double-check the secured party formatting too.
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Faith Kingston
•Smart to verify everything. Sometimes banks change their legal names slightly and you don't realize it until you try to file a termination.
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Emma Johnson
Another vote for using Certana's verification tool. I was skeptical at first but it really does catch stuff you'd miss. Just upload both documents and it'll show you exactly where the discrepancies are.
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Liv Park
•Sounds like multiple people have had success with it. I'll give it a try this afternoon.
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Liam Brown
•Yeah, it's become my go-to for any complex filings. Beats staring at documents trying to spot differences.
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Olivia Garcia
Energy companies often have really long legal names with lots of subsidiary designations. Make sure you have the complete legal entity name, not just the trade name they use for business.
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Liv Park
•That could be it. I might only have their DBA name instead of the full legal entity that was actually on the UCC-1.
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Noah Lee
•Exactly. The UCC system cares about the legal entity name, not what they put on their trucks or letterhead.
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Ava Hernandez
Last resort - if you can't get the termination to go through, you might need to file a correction first to update any name discrepancies, then file the termination. It's an extra step but sometimes necessary.
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Liv Park
•Hopefully it doesn't come to that, but good to know that's an option. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone.
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Isabella Martin
•The correction route worked for me once when I had a similar problem. Sometimes you just have to take the long way around.
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Elijah Jackson
•Keep us posted on what ends up working! These kinds of issues are always good learning experiences for the rest of us.
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MidnightRider
I've dealt with similar energy company UCC issues before. One thing that's helped me is to also check if Sunstreet Energy Group has filed any name changes or amendments with the Secretary of State since the original UCC-1. Energy companies frequently restructure or update their legal names, and sometimes the UCC system won't recognize slight variations even if they're technically the same entity. You might also want to search their corporate registration to see if there are any "also known as" names listed that could be causing the mismatch.
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