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LunarEclipse

UCC search Texas - database giving me weird results, am I doing something wrong?

I'm trying to run a UCC search Texas on some collateral for a commercial loan we're processing and the Secretary of State database is returning results that don't make sense. When I search by debtor name I get like 15 different filings but half of them show as 'lapsed' and the other half have continuation dates that seem wrong. The borrower insists they only have 3 active UCC-1 filings but I'm seeing way more than that. Is there something about Texas UCC searches that I'm missing? The collateral is construction equipment so I need to make sure we catch any existing liens before we file our UCC-1. Anyone know if the Texas SOS database has quirks or if there's a better way to verify what's actually active vs what's just showing up in search results?

Yara Khalil

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Texas UCC searches can be tricky because the database shows everything - active, lapsed, terminated, you name it. You need to look at the status column and ignore anything marked as 'lapsed' or 'terminated'. Also check the dates - UCC-1 filings are only good for 5 years unless they filed a continuation.

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LunarEclipse

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That makes sense about the status column. I was getting confused because some of the lapsed ones had recent dates. Are those continuation filings that didn't get processed in time?

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Yara Khalil

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Exactly - those are probably continuation attempts that were filed too late. In Texas if you miss the 6-month continuation window the original UCC-1 lapses and you can't revive it.

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Keisha Brown

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I had this exact same problem last month with a Texas UCC search! The borrower said they had 'no liens' but I found 8 filings under variations of their company name. Turns out 6 were terminated but still showing up in results. You really have to dig into each filing individually.

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This is why I always run searches on multiple name variations. Companies change names, add LLC vs Inc, etc. The Texas system is pretty literal about exact matches.

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LunarEclipse

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Good point about name variations. I only searched the exact name from their articles of incorporation. Should I be trying different formats too?

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Definitely - try with and without punctuation, abbreviations, different entity designations. Also search by filing number if you have any from previous documents.

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Amina Toure

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I've been doing UCC searches in Texas for years and honestly the SOS database interface is terrible. It's not intuitive at all about what's active vs inactive. I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool recently - you can upload the UCC search results and it automatically cross-checks everything to identify which filings are actually active and highlights any inconsistencies in debtor names or collateral descriptions.

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LunarEclipse

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That sounds helpful - is it easy to use? I'm spending way too much time trying to manually verify each filing status.

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Amina Toure

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Super easy - just upload your search results PDF and it does all the verification work instantly. Saved me hours on my last equipment financing deal because it caught a debtor name mismatch I would have missed.

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Oliver Weber

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I'll have to check that out. Manually comparing UCC documents is such a pain, especially when you're dealing with multiple name variations.

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FireflyDreams

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Construction equipment can be tricky because sometimes it gets filed as fixtures if it's permanently attached to real estate. Did you check for fixture filings too? Those show up differently in the database.

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LunarEclipse

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I didn't even think about fixture filings! This is mobile equipment though - excavators and bulldozers that move between job sites.

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FireflyDreams

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Mobile equipment should just be regular UCC-1 filings then. But definitely worth checking the collateral descriptions to make sure they match what you're expecting to see.

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The Texas UCC database is honestly a nightmare. I've had searches come back with filings from 15 years ago that should have been purged by now. The system doesn't seem to clean up old records properly.

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I think they keep terminated filings for a certain number of years for historical purposes. But yeah, it makes the search results really messy.

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It's just frustrating when you're trying to do due diligence quickly and you have to wade through all this old junk to find what's actually relevant.

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Emma Anderson

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Quick tip - when you're looking at UCC search results in Texas, sort by file date descending. That way you see the most recent filings first and can quickly identify what's current vs what's old.

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LunarEclipse

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Good idea! I was just looking at them in the order they appeared which was basically random.

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Emma Anderson

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Yeah the default sort order makes no sense. Also pay attention to the filing numbers - they follow a pattern that can help you identify the year.

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Are you searching by exact debtor name or doing a broader search? Sometimes the Texas system returns partial matches that aren't actually relevant to your debtor.

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LunarEclipse

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I was doing exact name search but maybe that's why I'm missing some variations. Should I try wildcard searches too?

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I usually start with exact match and then broaden if needed. Wildcard can return too many irrelevant results but it's worth trying if the exact search seems incomplete.

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Just be careful with wildcard searches - I once got like 200 results for a common word in a company name.

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CosmicVoyager

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This is exactly why I triple-check everything before we file our UCC-1. Found out the hard way that subordinate liens can mess up your priority position if you miss them in the search.

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LunarEclipse

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That's my main concern - making sure we don't miss any existing liens that could affect our position. How do you handle situations where the search results are ambiguous?

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CosmicVoyager

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When in doubt I pull the actual UCC-1 documents from the filings that look relevant. The Texas SOS charges like $1 per document but it's worth it for peace of mind.

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Ravi Kapoor

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I had a similar issue last week and ended up calling the Texas Secretary of State office directly. They were actually pretty helpful in explaining how to interpret the search results and what the different status codes mean.

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LunarEclipse

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Good to know they're helpful on the phone. Did they have any tips for making the searches more accurate?

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Ravi Kapoor

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They said to always check both the debtor name exactly as it appears on the articles AND any DBAs the company might be using. Also mentioned that recent filings sometimes take 24-48 hours to show up in search results.

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Freya Nielsen

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That delay in showing new filings is important to remember, especially if you're doing a search right after someone else might have filed.

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Omar Mahmoud

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The thing that helped me most with Texas UCC searches was learning to read the amendment history. If you see a UCC-3 amendment filed, you need to trace back to the original UCC-1 to understand what's actually covered.

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LunarEclipse

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That's a good point - I was just looking at the most recent filings but not tracing the amendment chain. That could explain some of the confusion.

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Omar Mahmoud

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Exactly - amendments can change the debtor name, add or remove collateral, or assign the security interest to someone else. You really need the full picture.

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Chloe Harris

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I switched to using Certana.ai for UCC verification after getting burned on a deal where I missed a critical name variation. Their system catches stuff like that automatically by cross-referencing all the documents. Just upload your search results and any related docs and it flags potential issues.

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Diego Vargas

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How accurate is it compared to manual review? I'm always nervous about relying too heavily on automated tools for something this important.

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Chloe Harris

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It's actually been more accurate than my manual reviews because it doesn't get tired or overlook details. I still review everything but it helps me focus on the real issues instead of getting lost in the weeds.

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NeonNinja

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Bottom line with Texas UCC searches - don't trust the borrower's word about how many liens they have. Always do your own comprehensive search and verify the status of every filing that comes up. The database may be clunky but the information is usually accurate once you know how to read it.

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LunarEclipse

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Good advice - I was taking their word too much. Better to over-search than miss something important.

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Absolutely - I've seen too many deals go sideways because someone relied on the borrower's 'clean' lien representation without doing proper due diligence.

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Emma Bianchi

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Thanks everyone for the detailed responses - this is incredibly helpful! I'm going to start by re-running the search with multiple name variations and paying closer attention to the status codes and filing dates. The tip about calling the Texas SOS directly is great too. I think I was getting overwhelmed by all the results without understanding how to properly filter them. Will also look into that Certana.ai tool that several people mentioned for cross-verification. Really appreciate this community sharing their hard-earned experience!

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