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Victoria Scott

UCC lien search Texas showing conflicting results - need verification help

Been dealing with a nightmare situation where I'm trying to clean up some old equipment financing from 2019 and the Texas SOS UCC search is giving me weird results. When I search by debtor name I get different filings than when I search by filing number, and some of the continuation statements don't seem to match up with the original UCC-1s. The equipment was for a construction company that changed names twice since then and I'm not sure if all the amendments were filed correctly. Has anyone else run into issues where the Texas UCC lien search system shows inconsistent data? I need to make sure everything is properly terminated before we can refinance but I'm getting conflicting information depending on how I search. Some filings show as active that should have lapsed and others that should be active show as expired. Really need to get this sorted out fast.

Texas SOS search can be tricky especially with name changes. Are you searching exact debtor names as they appear on the original filings? Even small differences in how the business name is entered can cause different results.

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That's part of the problem - the company was originally filed as 'ABC Construction LLC' then became 'ABC Construction Services LLC' and now it's 'ABC Construction & Services LLC'. I've tried all variations but getting different UCC-1s for each name.

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Zara Perez

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Name changes are a pain. You need to trace through all the UCC-3 amendments that should have been filed for each name change to make sure the chain is complete.

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Daniel Rogers

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I had similar issues last month with conflicting search results in Texas. The problem was that some of the UCC-3 continuations weren't properly linking back to the original filing numbers. You might need to manually cross-reference each filing number with its amendments.

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How did you end up resolving it? I've got like 6 different filing numbers and I can't tell which continuations go with which original filings.

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Daniel Rogers

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Honestly it took forever doing it manually until someone suggested I try Certana.ai's document checker. You just upload the PDFs of all your UCC documents and it automatically cross-checks everything - finds mismatches in debtor names, verifies filing numbers align properly, catches missing links between amendments and originals. Saved me probably 8 hours of manual work.

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Aaliyah Reed

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That sounds too good to be true. How accurate is the automated checking?

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Ella Russell

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TEXAS SOS SYSTEM IS THE WORST! I swear they have the most confusing search interface of any state. Half the time the advanced search doesn't even work properly and you get incomplete results.

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Mohammed Khan

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I feel your pain but it's actually gotten better in the last year. The issue is usually that people don't realize you need to search both current and expired filings separately.

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Ella Russell

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Yeah well it shouldn't be this complicated just to get a clean UCC search result. Other states manage to make this simple.

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Gavin King

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For name changes you definitely need to make sure each UCC-3 amendment was filed correctly. If there's a gap in the chain or if the debtor name on an amendment doesn't exactly match the previous filing, it can create these disconnected results you're seeing.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. Some of these amendments show slightly different business names and I can't tell if they're supposed to connect or if they're separate entities.

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Gavin King

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You need to verify the exact legal entity names as they appear in the corporate records. Sometimes what looks like a name change is actually a new entity and the old liens should have been terminated separately.

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Nathan Kim

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This is why I always recommend keeping detailed records of every UCC filing from day one. Trying to reconstruct the chain years later is a nightmare.

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Have you tried calling the Texas SOS UCC division directly? Sometimes they can help explain discrepancies in the search results, especially if there were system issues when certain filings were processed.

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Didn't know they would help with search issues. Do they actually have people who can walk through filing histories?

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They have a UCC information line but wait times can be brutal. Worth trying though if you're stuck.

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Lucas Turner

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Been there with the Texas system showing different results depending on search method. Usually means there's an issue with how the debtor information was entered on one of the filings. Could be as simple as LLC vs L.L.C. or missing punctuation.

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Kai Rivera

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This is exactly why exact name matching is so critical for UCC filings. One missing comma or period and suddenly your continuation doesn't connect to the original UCC-1.

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So frustrating that such small details can mess up the entire filing chain. Is there any way to fix these kinds of errors after the fact?

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Lucas Turner

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You can file corrective UCC-3 amendments but you need to be careful about timing, especially if any of the original filings have already lapsed.

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Anna Stewart

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Quick question - are you searching in the right time frame? Texas UCC-1 filings are only effective for 5 years unless continued, so anything from 2019 might have lapsed by now unless there were proper continuation statements filed.

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That's part of what's confusing me. Some show as active past the 5 year mark which makes me think continuations were filed, but I can't find the continuation statements in the search results.

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Anna Stewart

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If the system shows them as active beyond 5 years then continuations definitely exist somewhere. Try searching just by the original filing numbers to see if you can pull up the continuation records.

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Layla Sanders

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I actually just went through something similar last week. Ended up using that Certana.ai tool someone mentioned earlier and it was a game changer. Uploaded all my UCC documents and within minutes it showed me exactly which filings weren't connecting properly and why. Found 3 debtor name mismatches I never would have caught manually.

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How much does something like that cost? Sounds like it might be worth it if it can sort out this mess quickly.

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Layla Sanders

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I don't remember the exact cost but it was way cheaper than paying a lawyer to sort through everything manually. Plus you get results immediately instead of waiting days for someone to review all the documents.

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Daniel Rogers

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Same experience here. The automated cross-checking caught issues I probably would have missed even doing it carefully by hand.

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One thing to check - make sure you're looking at both filed and rejected documents. Sometimes a UCC-3 amendment gets rejected for technical reasons but the filer doesn't realize it, so they think it was processed when it actually wasn't.

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How do you search rejected filings in Texas? I've only been looking at the active/expired records.

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There should be an option in the advanced search to include rejected filings. It's not obvious but super important for getting the complete picture.

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Kaylee Cook

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This whole thread is giving me anxiety about our own UCC filings lol. We have a bunch of equipment loans from different years and now I'm worried we might have similar issues with the continuation statements.

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Better to check now than find out during a refinance or audit. UCC filing errors can kill deals fast.

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Gavin King

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Definitely worth doing a comprehensive UCC audit annually, especially if you have multiple lenders or have gone through any business changes.

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Update - I tried that Certana.ai document checker and holy crap it found the problem immediately. Two of the UCC-3 amendments had the debtor name spelled slightly different from the original UCC-1s so they weren't connecting in the search system. Now I know exactly which corrective amendments I need to file. Thanks everyone for the help!

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Layla Sanders

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Awesome! Glad it worked out. Those small name discrepancies are so easy to miss when you're doing manual reviews.

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Wait, you're not the original poster... are you having the same issue?

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Oops sorry, different person but same exact problem with Texas UCC searches. This thread convinced me to check our filings and sure enough, found similar issues.

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