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Andre Laurent

UCC notification never received after filing - what are my options?

I filed a UCC-1 back in October and never got any notification confirmation from the state. The debtor is claiming they never received proper notice either and now they're disputing the validity of my lien. I checked with the Secretary of State office and they show the filing as accepted but there's no record of any notifications being sent out. This is for a $180K equipment loan and I'm really concerned about the perfection status. Has anyone dealt with missing UCC notification issues? I thought the state was supposed to automatically send notifications to both filer and debtor when a UCC-1 gets processed. The loan documents specify that proper UCC notification is required for the security interest to be valid. Any advice on how to fix this mess?

Wait, are you talking about the acknowledgment copy that the filing office sends back to you, or the actual debtor notification? Because those are two different things. The state sends YOU an acknowledgment when your filing is accepted, but they don't automatically notify the debtor in most states.

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I think I might be confused about the notification requirements. I assumed the state would notify the debtor automatically but maybe that's not how it works?

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Yeah this is a common misconception. The UCC doesn't require debtor notification in most cases. Your security interest is perfected when the UCC-1 is filed and accepted, regardless of whether the debtor gets notified.

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I had a similar situation last year. Turned out the loan agreement had specific notification language that went beyond the standard UCC requirements. You might want to check if your loan docs have any special notification clauses that create additional obligations.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. The loan agreement does mention 'proper UCC notification' but I'm not sure if that means statutory requirements or something more.

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I ran into this exact issue and ended up using Certana.ai to upload both my loan agreement and UCC-1 to check for any inconsistencies. It flagged that my loan docs required debtor notification within 30 days of filing, which wasn't a UCC requirement but was a contractual obligation.

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Hold up - if your filing shows as 'accepted' in the state system, your lien should be perfected regardless of notification issues. The debtor can't dispute validity just because they didn't get a notice, unless your specific loan agreement requires it.

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This is correct. UCC perfection happens upon filing acceptance, not upon notification. The debtor might be trying to create problems where none exist legally.

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But what if my loan agreement does require notification? Could that void the security interest even if the UCC filing is valid?

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That would be a contract issue, not a UCC issue. You'd need to look at the specific language in your loan docs to see if notification failure affects the security interest or just creates a technical default.

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OMG this is giving me anxiety because I have three UCC filings from last month and I don't remember getting notifications for any of them! Now I'm wondering if I messed up all my loans. How do you even check if notifications were supposed to be sent?

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Don't panic! Most states don't send automatic debtor notifications. You should have received acknowledgment copies for your filings though. Check your records for those first.

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I found the acknowledgment copies but they don't say anything about debtor notification. Should I be sending notices myself?

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Only if your loan agreements require it. The UCC itself doesn't mandate debtor notification for most filings.

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I've been dealing with UCC filings for 15 years and notification confusion is probably the #1 issue I see. The key is understanding that UCC perfection and contractual notification requirements are separate things. Your security interest can be perfectly valid under the UCC even if you failed to meet a contractual notification requirement.

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So even if I was supposed to notify the debtor per my loan agreement, the lien itself is still enforceable?

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Generally yes, but you might be in technical default under your loan agreement. The remedy would depend on what your contract says about notification failures.

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I had a case where the borrower tried to claim the entire loan was invalid because of missing notification. Court ruled that the security interest was enforceable but the lender had to cure the notification default.

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Here's what I'd do: 1) Get a certified copy of your filed UCC-1 from the state, 2) Review your loan agreement for any notification requirements, 3) If notification was required, send it now with an explanation of the delay, 4) Document everything for your file.

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This is solid advice. Better to cure any potential default proactively rather than wait for the debtor to make it an issue.

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Should I use certified mail for the late notification or is regular mail sufficient?

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Always use certified mail for important notices. Creates a paper trail and shows you made a good faith effort to notify.

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Just went through something similar and wish I'd known about document checking tools earlier. I uploaded my loan agreement and UCC-1 to Certana.ai and it immediately spotted that my agreement required notification within 15 days but my UCC filing didn't trigger any automatic notices. Saved me from a much bigger problem down the road.

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That sounds like exactly what I need. Can it check for other inconsistencies between loan docs and UCC filings?

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Yeah, it cross-checks debtor names, collateral descriptions, and contractual requirements against your actual filings. Really helpful for catching issues before they become problems.

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The debtor disputing your lien validity sounds like they're fishing for a way out of their obligations. If your UCC-1 is properly filed and shows as accepted, they don't have much ground to stand on unless there's a real contractual notification requirement.

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Agreed. Sounds like the debtor is trying to create leverage in a situation where they probably don't have any legal basis to challenge the lien.

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That's what I'm hoping, but I want to make sure I've covered all my bases before pushing back on their claims.

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Smart approach. Get your documentation in order first, then you can respond to their challenge from a position of strength.

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One thing to consider - even if you were supposed to send debtor notification, the failure might not void your security interest. It could just be a technical default that needs to be cured. Check what your loan agreement says about remedies for notification failures.

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This is a good point. Most loan agreements don't make notification failure a basis for voiding the entire security interest.

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I need to dig deeper into the loan agreement language. The notification clause is pretty vague about what happens if it's not followed.

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Bottom line - your UCC filing creates a perfected security interest regardless of notification issues. Any notification problems are likely contractual matters that can be addressed separately. Don't let the debtor convince you that your lien is invalid just because of notification confusion.

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Exactly right. UCC perfection and contractual compliance are two different legal standards.

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Thanks everyone. This has been really helpful in understanding the difference between UCC requirements and contractual obligations. I feel much better about my position now.

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Glad we could help clarify things. These notification issues trip up a lot of people but they're usually not as serious as they first appear.

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