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Amina Toure

UCC 11 search New Jersey - what exactly am I looking for?

I keep hearing about UCC 11 searches in New Jersey but I'm honestly confused about what this means. My lender is asking me to provide documentation and they mentioned something about a UCC 11 search but when I look at the NJ UCC portal I only see options for UCC-1, UCC-3, and regular UCC searches. Is UCC 11 some kind of specific search type or am I missing something obvious? I've been doing equipment financing for 3 years and never encountered this term before. The loan closing is next week and I don't want to hold things up because I can't figure out what they're asking for. Has anyone dealt with this terminology before?

I think there might be some confusion here. In standard UCC terminology, we have UCC-1 (initial financing statements), UCC-3 (amendments, continuations, terminations), and UCC-5 (correction statements). There's no such thing as a 'UCC 11' form or search type in New Jersey or any other state that I'm aware of. Could your lender be referring to something else? Maybe they meant UCC-1 search or they're using some internal terminology?

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Yeah this sounds like either a miscommunication or they're using some proprietary term. I've been doing UCC searches in NJ for 8 years and never seen UCC 11 anywhere.

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Could they mean Form 11 from a different context? Sometimes lenders mix up their internal forms with UCC forms.

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Javier Torres

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I'd call your lender back and ask them to clarify exactly what they need. In my experience, when lenders use non-standard terminology like 'UCC 11 search,' they usually mean one of these: 1) A standard UCC search report, 2) A specific type of lien search that includes UCC filings, or 3) They're confused about the form numbers themselves. Don't waste time trying to figure out what doesn't exist - just get clarification directly from them.

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Amina Toure

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That's probably the smart approach. I was spending way too much time trying to figure this out on my own when I should just ask them directly.

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Emma Davis

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Definitely this. I've seen lenders use all kinds of weird internal codes that don't match actual UCC terminology.

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Malik Johnson

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I ran into something similar last month with a different issue - I was getting inconsistent information about debtor names between different documents and couldn't figure out if my UCC-1 would get rejected. Ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool where you can upload your charter documents and UCC forms as PDFs and it automatically cross-checks everything for consistency. Super helpful for catching these kinds of discrepancies before filing. Might be worth checking if your lender has specific requirements about document verification too.

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How accurate is that tool? I've been manually comparing documents which takes forever.

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Malik Johnson

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Pretty solid from what I've seen. It catches name variations and formatting issues that are easy to miss when you're comparing docs manually.

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Ravi Sharma

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Wait, are you sure they didn't say 'UCC-1' and you misheard it as 'UCC 11'? That would make way more sense. A UCC-1 search in New Jersey would be looking for existing financing statements filed against your debtor to see what liens are already in place.

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Amina Toure

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I thought about that but I have the email right here and it definitely says 'UCC 11 search.' I'm going to call them tomorrow.

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NebulaNomad

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Could be a typo in their email template or something. Happens more than you'd think.

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Freya Thomsen

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This is exactly the kind of confusion that drives me crazy about working with different lenders. They all have their own terminology and half the time their loan officers don't even understand UCC procedures themselves. I've had lenders ask for 'UCC renewals' (they meant continuations), 'UCC releases' (they meant terminations), and all sorts of other non-standard terms.

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Omar Fawaz

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So true! I had one lender ask for a 'UCC discharge' last year. Took three phone calls to figure out they wanted a termination statement.

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Chloe Martin

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The worst is when they insist their terminology is correct and you're the one who's confused.

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Diego Rojas

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For what it's worth, the New Jersey UCC search portal is pretty straightforward. You can search by debtor name, filing number, or secured party. The search results will show you all active financing statements, amendments, continuations, and terminations. If your lender needs a comprehensive lien search, that's what they should be asking for - not some made-up 'UCC 11' thing.

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The NJ portal is definitely one of the better ones. Some states have terrible search interfaces.

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StarSeeker

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True, though I still double-check important searches with the Secretary of State's office directly.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now - my lender keeps using terminology that doesn't match what I see in the actual filing system. Makes me wonder if they're outsourcing their UCC work to someone who doesn't really understand the process. Have you considered just running a standard UCC search and seeing if that's what they actually need?

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Zara Ahmed

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That's not a bad idea. Sometimes it's easier to just provide what makes sense and let them tell you if it's wrong.

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Amina Toure

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I might try that as a backup plan if the phone call doesn't clear things up.

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Luca Esposito

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Quick question - is this for a new loan or are you dealing with an existing UCC filing? The type of search they need might depend on what stage of the transaction you're in. For new loans, they usually want to see what other liens exist. For existing loans, they might want to verify their own filing status.

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Amina Toure

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It's for a new equipment loan. The equipment is already purchased and we're just finalizing the security agreement paperwork.

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Nia Thompson

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In that case they probably want a standard debtor search to see what other secured parties have claims on the equipment or your business assets.

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I've been using Certana.ai for document consistency checks and it's been a lifesaver for avoiding these kinds of communication problems. When you upload your loan documents and UCC forms, it flags any discrepancies in entity names, addresses, or other details that could cause confusion later. Might be worth running your paperwork through it before the closing just to make sure everything aligns properly.

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Does it work with New Jersey filings specifically? Some tools are better for certain states.

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Yeah, it handles all states since it's checking document consistency rather than state-specific filing rules.

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This thread is making me realize how much confusion exists around UCC terminology. I've been in commercial lending for 12 years and I still see borrowers and even some lenders get confused about basic terms. 'UCC 11' definitely isn't a real thing, but I bet if you search your email for 'UCC' and '11' separately, you'll find they meant something else entirely.

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Ethan Wilson

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Good point about searching separately. Could be 'UCC search' and 'Schedule 11' or something like that.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Or maybe they need 11 different types of searches? Some lenders have crazy requirements.

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Carmen Diaz

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UPDATE: Just wanted to follow up since this thread helped me figure out what to ask. Called my lender this morning and you were all right - it was a miscommunication. They needed a standard UCC debtor search in New Jersey, not some mysterious 'UCC 11' form. Apparently their loan processor was new and mixed up their internal checklist numbers with UCC form numbers. Got the search done through the NJ portal in about 10 minutes. Thanks everyone for the reality check!

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Andre Laurent

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Glad it worked out! This is exactly why it's always worth asking for clarification instead of assuming you're missing something.

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AstroAce

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Classic case of overthinking a simple miscommunication. Happens to all of us.

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Perfect example of why direct communication beats hours of research when dealing with non-standard terminology.

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Amina Diallo

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Great update Carmen! This is such a perfect example of why we shouldn't assume we're the ones who don't understand something when lenders use confusing terminology. I've seen this happen so many times - loan processors mixing up internal reference numbers with actual UCC form designations. It's frustrating but at least now you know for future reference. The New Jersey UCC portal really is straightforward once you know what you're actually looking for. Hope your closing goes smoothly!

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