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Lim Wong

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Update us when you send the notice! I'm dealing with a similar situation and curious how it goes. These 9-624 notices are nerve-wracking because there's so much riding on getting them right.

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Lena Schultz

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Will do! Thanks everyone for the input. I'm going to get the notice drafted this week and have our attorney review it before sending.

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Dananyl Lear

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Smart move having legal review. The cost of review is nothing compared to losing a deficiency claim over a notice error.

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Dylan Hughes

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Just a heads up - when you're preparing that 9-624 notice, make sure you're also considering whether you need to send it to any junior lienholders who might have had interests in the collateral. UCC 9-624 requires notice to secured parties who had filed financing statements covering the same collateral. I've seen cases where lenders forgot about junior liens and it created complications later when those creditors claimed they should have received notice of the deficiency calculation. Might be worth doing a quick UCC search to see if anyone else filed against the same collateral after your original filing.

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Bottom line: UCC-1 filings don't require separate debtor notice. The security agreement authorization is sufficient under Article 9. The attorney is either confused about notice requirements or trying to create issues where none exist. Stand your ground on this one.

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Paolo Conti

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Good call. Even though you're right on the law, having airtight documentation makes these challenges go away faster.

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Amina Diallo

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And if the attorney keeps pushing, remind them that challenging a properly authorized UCC filing could be seen as bad faith during the refi process.

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I've seen this exact scenario play out dozens of times. The attorney is likely just being overly cautious during due diligence, but you're absolutely correct that UCC-1 filings don't require separate debtor notification. The security agreement itself provides the necessary authorization and constructive notice. What I'd recommend is pulling your loan file and confirming your security agreement includes standard UCC filing authorization language - something like "Debtor hereby authorizes Secured Party to file such financing statements and other documents as Secured Party deems necessary to perfect its security interest." If you have that language (and most commercial loan docs do), you're bulletproof on this issue. The public filing system IS the notice mechanism under Article 9.

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Paolo Longo

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For what it's worth, I've found that calling the SOS filing office directly can sometimes give you better practical guidance than reading through the official comments. Most of the experienced staff know exactly what descriptions they'll accept and what causes problems.

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Amina Bah

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This is great advice that more people should follow. The SOS staff deal with these filings all day and usually know the common pitfalls better than anyone.

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Oliver Becker

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I tried this approach recently and got completely different answers from different people at the same office. Seems like consistency is still an issue even within individual SOS offices.

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CosmicCowboy

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Last thought on this - if you're doing quarterly lien audits anyway, might be worth checking out Certana.ai's UCC document verification. I started using it after our audit found several name mismatches between our UCC-1s and the actual corporate records. It's saved us from some potentially serious perfection issues. Just upload your filings and it automatically flags inconsistencies. Makes the audit process much more thorough without adding manual work.

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CosmicCowboy

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More often than you'd think, especially with corporate name changes or when dealing with subsidiaries. The verification tool caught about 6 issues out of 30 filings in our last audit - small discrepancies but potentially big problems.

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Michael Green

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That's a sobering statistic - 6 out of 30 is way higher than I would have expected! Makes me wonder if we should be doing more systematic verification beyond just our annual reviews. Are most of these discrepancies things like "Inc." vs "Incorporated" or more substantial differences?

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Gavin King

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I just want to follow up on this thread because I think I figured out my problem. I was searching in the wrong section of the website. There's a difference between the 'Business Entity Search' and the 'UCC Search'. I was using the business entity search which is why I couldn't find my UCC filings. Once I switched to the actual UCC search section, I found most of my filings. Still having trouble with a couple but at least now I know I'm looking in the right place. Thanks everyone for the help!

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Joshua Wood

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Glad you got it sorted out! That's a common mistake. The UCC search is in a completely different section than the business entity records.

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Emily Parker

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Great! Now that you've found your filings, make sure to check those lapse dates and set up a system to track continuation deadlines. That's just as important as finding the filings in the first place.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I've been using the Florida UCC search system for a few months but I keep running into issues with name variations. One thing I discovered is that if you're searching for a business that might have changed names or merged with another entity, you might need to search under the old name too. The UCC filing stays under whatever name was used when it was originally filed, even if the business has since changed its legal name. Also, for anyone still struggling with the search - I found that removing all punctuation (commas, periods, apostrophes) from the debtor name sometimes helps. The system can be really picky about special characters.

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Ravi Sharma

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UPDATE: It was the entity suffix! Changed from 'LLC' to 'L.L.C.' and the filing was accepted immediately. Thanks everyone for the help. Going to look into that Certana tool to avoid this in the future.

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Diego Rojas

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Great to hear! The document verification definitely helps catch these issues before they become problems.

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Andre Laurent

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Success! Love when these threads have happy endings.

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As a newcomer to UCC filings, this thread has been incredibly educational! The entity suffix issue seems to be a really common problem that could save a lot of people time and headaches. I'm curious - are there any other frequent formatting gotchas like this that new practitioners should watch out for? It sounds like spacing, punctuation, and exact name matching are all critical, but I'd love to know what other "hidden" rejection causes you've all encountered in your practice.

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