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Lucas Lindsey

Orange County UCC search showing weird results - anyone else having issues?

Hey everyone, I'm trying to do an Orange County UCC search for a client and the results are completely inconsistent. When I search by debtor name I get different filings than when I search by filing number, and some continuations aren't showing up linked to their original UCC-1s. Is this a known issue with the system or am I missing something? I've been doing these searches for years but this is making me question everything. Has anyone else noticed problems with Orange County UCC search results lately?

Sophie Duck

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I've seen this too! The Orange County system seems to have some indexing problems. Sometimes debtor names get truncated in the search results so you miss filings. Try searching with just the first few letters of the company name instead of the full name.

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Lucas Lindsey

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That's a good tip, I'll try that. It's frustrating because I need to be thorough for due diligence and can't afford to miss any filings.

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Yeah the truncation thing is real. I always do multiple searches with different variations of the debtor name just to be safe.

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Anita George

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UGH yes! The Orange County UCC search is so unreliable. Last week I found a continuation that didn't show up when I searched the original UCC-1 number. How does that even happen?? Their database sync must be broken.

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Sophie Duck

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Database sync issues would explain a lot. I've started doing both debtor name searches AND filing number searches separately to catch everything.

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Lucas Lindsey

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That's exactly what I'm dealing with! The continuation shows up in debtor name search but not when I search the base filing number.

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I had this exact problem last month and ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload all the UCC documents you find and it cross-checks everything to make sure you didn't miss any connections. Saved me from a major oversight when their search missed a critical amendment.

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Lucas Lindsey

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Interesting, I haven't heard of that tool. How does it work exactly?

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You just upload PDFs of all the UCC filings and it automatically verifies the document chain - like making sure continuations properly reference the original UCC-1, checking debtor names are consistent, that kind of thing.

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Anita George

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That sounds really helpful for catching the stuff the search system misses. I'm definitely going to check that out.

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Logan Chiang

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This is why I always print out search results immediately. The Orange County system seems to update at weird times and results can change between searches. Document everything with timestamps.

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Lucas Lindsey

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Good point about timestamps. I should be more careful about documenting when I ran each search.

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Sophie Duck

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Smart practice. I've had opposing counsel question my search results before and having timestamped printouts saved me.

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Isla Fischer

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are you using the right search portal? sometimes there are multiple ways to access the same database and they dont all work the same

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Lucas Lindsey

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I'm using the main Secretary of State portal. Are there other ways to search Orange County UCC filings?

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Isla Fischer

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yeah theres the SOS portal and sometimes county recorder offices have their own search but they might not be synced

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I've been doing Orange County UCC searches for 15 years and the system has definitely gotten worse. The old paper filing days were more reliable than this electronic mess. At least then you knew if something was filed or not.

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Anita George

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LOL the good old days when filings were actually filed in filing cabinets! At least you couldn't have database sync issues.

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Logan Chiang

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The electronic system should be better but somehow it's created new problems we never had before.

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Lucas Lindsey

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I wasn't around for paper filings but this makes me wonder if we're overthinking technology solutions.

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Ruby Blake

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Check the effective dates on the filings you're finding. Sometimes continuations get filed but don't become effective immediately, so they might not show up in current searches until the effective date passes.

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Lucas Lindsey

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That's a good point. I should double-check the effective dates on the continuations I'm finding.

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Sophie Duck

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Yeah, and some people file continuations way early before the original expires, so the timing can be confusing.

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I ran into this exact issue last week! Ended up calling the filing office directly and they admitted their search function has known issues. They said to try searching by just the first word of the debtor name.

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Lucas Lindsey

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Wow, they actually admitted the system has problems? That's refreshing honesty.

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Anita George

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At least they're aware of it. Hopefully they're working on fixing it.

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Ella Harper

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This thread is making me paranoid about all my past searches. I might need to go back and re-verify some deals using that Certana tool someone mentioned.

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It's definitely worth double-checking if you have any concerns. The automated verification catches things manual searches miss.

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Lucas Lindsey

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Same here. I'm realizing I should probably be more systematic about verifying search results.

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PrinceJoe

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Try searching with different punctuation too. Sometimes the system treats 'LLC' different from 'L.L.C.' or 'Inc' vs 'Inc.' in debtor names.

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Lucas Lindsey

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Good tip! I never thought about punctuation differences affecting search results.

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Sophie Duck

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Yes! And sometimes they index 'The' at the beginning of company names differently too.

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The punctuation thing is so annoying. Why can't the search be smart enough to handle common variations?

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Thanks for posting this - I thought I was going crazy with inconsistent Orange County search results. At least now I know it's not just me!

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Lucas Lindsey

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Glad I'm not the only one dealing with this! It's reassuring to know other people are seeing the same issues.

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Anita George

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Yeah, this thread has been really helpful. I'm going to change how I do my searches going forward.

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