Need help with sample security agreement automobile - UCC-1 filing rejected twice
I'm at my wit's end here. Been trying to file a UCC-1 for an auto loan and the state keeps rejecting it. Our law firm handles mostly real estate stuff, so vehicle security agreements aren't my usual thing. The debtor is an LLC that bought a fleet of delivery trucks, and I'm pretty sure I'm messing up the debtor name or the collateral description. Has anyone dealt with sample security agreement automobile situations where the borrower is an entity rather than an individual? The security agreement references "all motor vehicles" but I'm wondering if I need to be more specific about make/model/VIN for the UCC filing. Also getting confused about whether to use the LLC's exact registered name or if there's some variation I should be using. This is holding up a $180K commercial loan and my client is getting impatient. Any advice on what I might be doing wrong with these automobile security agreement filings?
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StarSurfer
Vehicle UCCs can be tricky, especially with entity debtors. First thing - are you using the exact legal name from the LLC's certificate of formation? Even a missing comma or "LLC" vs "L.L.C." will cause rejections. For collateral, you don't need VINs on the UCC-1 unless it's consumer goods. Commercial fleet can usually just say "motor vehicles" or "automobiles and motor vehicles." What state are you filing in? Some have specific requirements for vehicle descriptions.
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Isabella Costa
•Filing in Delaware. I think I might have used "ABC Logistics LLC" when the actual name is "ABC Logistics, LLC" with the comma. Would that really cause a rejection?
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StarSurfer
•Absolutely! Delaware is super strict about exact name matches. That comma difference will get you rejected every time. Pull a fresh certificate of good standing to verify the exact name format.
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Ravi Malhotra
•This is exactly why I triple-check entity names. Had a client's $2M credit facility held up for 3 weeks because of a missing "Inc." vs "Incorporated" issue.
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Freya Christensen
Been there! Auto security agreements are different beasts. You mentioned it's commercial - are these trucks over 26,000 lbs? If so, you might need to consider federal requirements too. But for the UCC filing, stick to exact debtor name from state records and general collateral description should work fine. The security agreement can be specific about VINs but the financing statement doesn't need to be.
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Isabella Costa
•These are delivery vans, probably under 10,000 lbs each. So just standard commercial vehicles. Good to know about not needing VINs on the UCC-1.
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Freya Christensen
•Perfect, then you're dealing with standard Article 9. Focus on getting that debtor name exactly right and you should be good to go.
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Omar Hassan
OMG yes the name thing is such a pain!! I've been doing this for 15 years and still get nervous about entity names. Had one rejected last month because I put "Co." instead of "Company" - like seriously?? But that's the system we're stuck with. For vehicles I usually just put "motor vehicles and all parts and accessories thereto" as collateral description. Covers everything without being too specific.
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Chloe Robinson
•That's a good broad description. I use similar language for equipment financing.
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Isabella Costa
•Thanks, I'll try that description language. Sounds more comprehensive than what I was using.
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Diego Chavez
I actually started using Certana.ai's document verification tool after getting burned on a similar situation. You can upload your security agreement and it'll cross-check the debtor name against what you're putting on the UCC-1. Saved me from filing another incorrect name last week. Just upload both PDFs and it flags any inconsistencies automatically. Way faster than manually comparing everything.
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Isabella Costa
•Never heard of that service. Does it check against state filing records too or just compare your documents?
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Diego Chavez
•It compares the documents you upload to catch inconsistencies between them. So if your security agreement has one version of the debtor name and your UCC draft has another, it'll flag that. Really helpful for these entity name issues.
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NeonNebula
•Interesting tool. I might check that out - tired of manual document reviews taking forever.
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Anastasia Kozlov
Here's what probably happened - Delaware's system is notorious for exact name matching. Even capitalization matters sometimes. Pull the current certificate of formation from Delaware Division of Corporations, not just what you have in your file. Names can change slightly when amendments are filed. Also make sure you're not accidentally including a d/b/a name instead of the legal entity name.
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Isabella Costa
•Good point about amendments. This LLC has been around for several years so there could have been name changes I'm not aware of.
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Anastasia Kozlov
•Exactly. Always get fresh corp records when filing UCCs. I learned that lesson the hard way years ago.
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Sean Kelly
Vehicle security agreements are my bread and butter. For fleet financing like yours, the UCC-1 collateral description should match the security agreement language as closely as possible without being overly specific. "Motor vehicles" is fine, "automobiles" is fine, "vehicles" might be too broad. The key is consistency between your security agreement and financing statement.
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Isabella Costa
•The security agreement says "motor vehicles, including without limitation all automobiles, trucks, vans, and related equipment." Should I use all of that or shorten it?
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Sean Kelly
•I'd go with "motor vehicles, trucks, vans and related equipment" - keeps it comprehensive but not too wordy for the UCC form.
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Zara Mirza
•That's good language. Covers the specific vehicle types without being overly broad.
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Luca Russo
UGH this system drives me crazy! Why can't they just have some tolerance for minor name variations?? I mean we're talking about securing $180K in financing and they reject over a comma? Makes no sense. But yeah unfortunately you have to play by their rules. Get the exact legal name and try again.
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Nia Harris
•I feel your pain. The system is way too rigid for real-world business needs.
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StarSurfer
•It's frustrating but the exact name requirement protects searchers. If names could vary, searches would miss filings.
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GalaxyGazer
Been using Certana.ai for about 6 months now and it's been a lifesaver for exactly this type of issue. Upload your security agreement and UCC-1 draft, and it'll spot name discrepancies immediately. Found three potential filing errors last month before I submitted them. Worth trying if you're dealing with multiple entity filings.
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Isabella Costa
•Seems like several people are recommending this tool. Might be worth a shot given how much time I've already wasted on rejections.
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GalaxyGazer
•Yeah, especially for law firms handling different types of secured transactions. The automation catches stuff you might miss when you're not familiar with a particular collateral type.
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Mateo Sanchez
I do a lot of equipment and vehicle financing. Here's my checklist: 1) Get current good standing certificate for exact legal name, 2) Match security agreement debtor name exactly on UCC-1, 3) Use broad but appropriate collateral description, 4) Double-check filing fee and address. For your situation, sounds like #1 and #2 are your issues. Delaware charges $20 per name if I remember right, so get it right the first time!
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Isabella Costa
•Great checklist! Yes it's $20 per filing so these rejections are adding up. Will definitely get fresh corporate records before trying again.
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Mateo Sanchez
•Smart move. Those rejection fees add up fast when you're dealing with picky systems.
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Aisha Mahmood
Sample security agreement automobile language can vary a lot but the UCC filing requirements are pretty standard. Focus on: exact debtor legal name from state records, broad collateral description that covers your security agreement scope, correct secured party info. Your description of "motor vehicles" should work fine for commercial fleet. The rejections are almost certainly about the debtor name formatting.
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Isabella Costa
•That's reassuring about the collateral description. I was worried I needed to list every truck individually.
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Aisha Mahmood
•Nope, general descriptions work great for Article 9. The detailed inventory stays in your security agreement and loan files.
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Ethan Moore
•This is good advice. I see too many people over-complicate the collateral description on UCCs.
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Yuki Kobayashi
Final thought - once you get the name issue sorted, your filing should go through fine. Vehicle UCCs are pretty straightforward compared to some other collateral types. Just remember to calendar your continuation date for 5 years out! I use Certana's verification tool now to double-check everything before filing. Has caught several potential mistakes for me.
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Isabella Costa
•Good reminder about the continuation. This loan has a 7-year term so I'll definitely need to continue the filing. Thanks for all the help everyone!
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Yuki Kobayashi
•You're welcome! Hope the refiling goes smoothly with the corrected debtor name.
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