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Isabella Ferreira

Need help with AL UCC statement service - debtor name verification issues

I'm dealing with a frustrating situation regarding an AL UCC statement service request. We had a UCC-1 filing from 2019 that we need to verify for a loan restructuring, but when I requested the certified statement, there's a discrepancy in how the debtor name appears on the official record versus our original filing documents. The debtor was listed as 'Johnson Manufacturing LLC' on our UCC-1, but the AL UCC statement service shows 'Johnson Manufacturing, LLC' (with the comma). This tiny difference is causing our lender to question the validity of our security interest. Has anyone dealt with similar debtor name formatting issues when requesting UCC statements? The original filing was accepted, so I'm not sure if this is just how the system standardizes names or if there was an error during processing. We're on a tight deadline for the loan approval and can't afford any delays due to this name mismatch.

CosmicVoyager

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This is actually pretty common with UCC filings. The Secretary of State's system sometimes auto-formats entity names during processing, especially with punctuation like commas in LLC designations. What state did you file in originally? Some states are stricter about exact name matches than others.

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Filed in Alabama. The original acceptance notice didn't show any name changes, so this caught us completely off guard when we got the certified statement back.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Alabama can be tricky with entity names. I'd recommend checking the original Articles of Incorporation to see exactly how the LLC name was registered with the state initially.

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Freya Nielsen

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Had the exact same issue last month! Our lender was freaking out over a similar punctuation difference. Turned out the UCC filing was still valid - the key is that the name has to be 'sufficient to identify' the debtor under UCC Article 9. A comma difference usually doesn't invalidate the filing.

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That's reassuring to hear. Did your lender accept that explanation or did you need additional documentation?

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Freya Nielsen

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We had to provide both the original UCC-1 filing receipt and the current certified statement, plus a letter from our attorney explaining the name variation was within acceptable limits.

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Omar Mahmoud

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This kind of documentation hassle is exactly why I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your original UCC-1 and the statement side-by-side to instantly check for any discrepancies that might cause lender issues.

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Chloe Harris

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Check the debtor's actual formation documents first. Sometimes the issue isn't with the UCC filing system but with how the entity name was originally registered. If there's an inconsistency there, you might need to file a UCC-3 amendment to correct the debtor name.

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Diego Vargas

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Good point about checking formation docs. But honestly, for such a minor punctuation difference, most courts would find the original filing sufficient to perfect the security interest.

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NeonNinja

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I disagree - better safe than sorry with lender requirements. If they're questioning it now, it could cause problems later during enforcement.

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This is why I hate dealing with UCC filings!!! The system is so inconsistent. One tiny comma and suddenly your security interest might be worthless? It's ridiculous.

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Sean Murphy

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I feel your frustration but the name requirements exist for good reason - to ensure proper notice to other creditors searching for liens against the debtor.

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Zara Khan

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Still doesn't make it less annoying when you're trying to close a deal and this stuff comes up at the last minute.

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Luca Ferrari

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You should run a UCC search under both name variations to see what comes up. If both searches return your filing, then you're probably fine. Most lenders will accept that as proof the filing is discoverable.

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That's a smart approach. I'll try running searches under both formats and document the results for our lender.

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Nia Davis

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Just make sure you get official search results, not just the free online searches. Lenders want certified documentation.

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Actually, I've been using Certana.ai for this exact type of verification. You can upload both your UCC documents and it cross-checks everything automatically - catches name inconsistencies before they become lender issues.

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QuantumQueen

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Had this happen with a client's equipment financing deal. The solution was to get a legal opinion letter stating that the name variation doesn't affect the validity of the security interest under UCC Article 9 standards.

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Aisha Rahman

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How much did that legal opinion cost? Wondering if it's worth it for smaller deals.

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QuantumQueen

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Ran about $800 but it was for a $2M credit facility so definitely worth it. For smaller deals you might try the documentation approach first.

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Ethan Wilson

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This exact situation is why I always double-check debtor names against formation documents before filing. Prevention is easier than correction.

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Yuki Sato

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Easier said than done when you're rushing to meet a closing deadline and the borrower provides inconsistent entity documents.

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Carmen Flores

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True, but that's when document verification tools really save you. I've started using Certana.ai's PDF checker - just upload the charter docs and UCC forms together and it flags any name mismatches immediately.

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Andre Dubois

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Update us on how this resolves! I'm dealing with something similar and curious what your lender ultimately accepts as sufficient documentation.

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Will do! Meeting with the lender tomorrow to present our documentation package. Fingers crossed they accept the explanation about system formatting.

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CyberSamurai

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Good luck! These name issues are more common than people realize.

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For what it's worth, I've never seen a court invalidate a UCC filing over comma placement in an LLC name. The 'seriously misleading' standard under UCC 9-506 is pretty hard to meet with minor punctuation differences.

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Jamal Carter

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That's the legal standard, but lenders have their own underwriting requirements that might be stricter than what courts would require.

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Mei Liu

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Exactly why it's worth having solid documentation upfront. Better to over-document than have deals fall apart over preventable issues.

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Just went through this exact scenario last week. Ended up filing a UCC-3 amendment to match the exact name format from the entity's current good standing certificate. Cost $25 and solved the lender's concerns immediately.

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That might be the cleanest solution. How long did the amendment take to process in your state?

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Filed electronically and it was processed same day. Much faster than trying to argue with the lender about name standards.

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Amara Nwosu

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Smart approach. Sometimes the $25 filing fee is cheaper than the time spent documenting why the original filing is sufficient.

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