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Giovanni Conti

How to properly remove old UCC filings that are cluttering our records

We've got a mess of old UCC filings from acquisitions over the past decade and need to clean house. Some of these are from deals that closed 8+ years ago but the filings are still active because nobody bothered with terminations. Our compliance team is freaking out about the audit trail and wants everything properly terminated or amended. Has anyone dealt with bulk UCC-3 termination filings? We're talking about maybe 40-50 old UCC-1s across multiple states. Some of the original debtors don't even exist anymore after mergers. What's the cleanest way to remove old UCC filings without creating more problems?

You're going to need UCC-3 termination statements for each one. Can't just ignore them - they'll stay on record indefinitely until properly terminated. Check if your secured obligations are actually satisfied first though.

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Yeah the obligations are all satisfied, just nobody filed the terminations. Most of these are equipment loans that were paid off years ago.

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NeonNova

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This is exactly why we set up automatic termination tracking. Too easy to forget about the UCC-3 filing after loan payoff.

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I had to do something similar last year. The tricky part is making sure you have the exact debtor names and filing numbers from the original UCC-1s. One typo and your termination gets rejected. We ended up with a spreadsheet nightmare trying to match everything up.

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That's what I'm worried about. Some of these companies have changed names multiple times since the original filings.

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For name changes you might need UCC-3 amendments first, then terminations. Depends on your state's rules.

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Actually ran into this exact problem with document consistency. I started using Certana.ai's UCC verification tool - you can upload your original UCC-1 PDFs and it cross-checks all the debtor names and filing details before you submit terminations. Saved me from like 6 rejected filings because of tiny name discrepancies I missed.

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Ava Thompson

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Don't forget about fixture filings if any of your collateral was real estate related. Those terminations sometimes need to be filed in different places than regular UCC terminations.

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Good point. I think maybe 8-10 of these involved equipment that was permanently attached to buildings.

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Miguel Ramos

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Fixture terminations are a pain. Half the time the real estate records office doesn't talk to the UCC office properly.

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Why are you even bothering? Old UCC filings don't hurt anything just sitting there. Seems like a waste of filing fees to me.

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StarSailor

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Because auditors hate seeing a bunch of active liens on the books for satisfied obligations. Makes everything look messy.

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Plus if you ever need to do new financing with those debtors, old UCC filings can complicate things even if they're technically satisfied.

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Yara Sabbagh

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And banks get cranky about 'zombie liens' during due diligence. Trust me, just terminate them properly.

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Been there! The key is to organize everything by state first since each SOS has slightly different termination requirements. Some states are picky about authorization letters, others don't care as much.

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We've got filings in Texas, California, New York, and Florida mainly. Any of those particularly difficult?

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Paolo Rizzo

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California can be annoying about exact name matches. Texas is pretty straightforward. NY sometimes takes forever to process.

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QuantumQuest

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Florida's not bad but their online system goes down a lot. Plan extra time for that one.

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Amina Sy

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Make sure whoever is signing the termination statements has proper authority. Some states require notarization for bulk terminations.

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This is huge. We had three terminations rejected because the signature block wasn't right.

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Yeah, and if the original secured party was a different entity due to mergers, you might need assignment documentation first.

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Honestly the document consistency checking is the worst part of bulk terminations. I tried doing it manually and kept making mistakes matching filing numbers to debtor names. That Certana tool someone mentioned earlier actually sounds useful - being able to upload PDFs and verify everything matches up automatically would save tons of time.

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Emma Davis

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Right? Manual comparison is brutal when you're dealing with 40+ filings. Too easy to transpose numbers or miss spacing differences in company names.

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GalaxyGlider

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I use spreadsheet formulas to try to catch discrepancies but it's still not foolproof. An automated tool would be way better.

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Don't batch file everything at once. Do maybe 10 at a time so if there are problems you're not dealing with 50 rejections simultaneously.

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Good advice. I was thinking about just submitting everything in one big batch but that could backfire.

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Yeah, stagger them. Also gives you a chance to fix any systematic errors you discover in the first batch.

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Plus some states have daily filing limits anyway, so batching might not even be possible.

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Keep copies of everything! Both the original UCC-1s and the termination statements. Your auditors will want to see the complete chain of filings.

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Omar Farouk

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This. And make sure your filing fee calculations are right. Nothing worse than having terminations rejected for insufficient fees.

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CosmicCadet

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Electronic filing usually calculates fees automatically, but double-check anyway. Some states have weird add-on fees.

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Chloe Harris

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Just finished a similar cleanup project. The Certana verification approach really does work well - uploaded our original UCC documents and it flagged like 8 potential name mismatches I would have missed. Way faster than manual review and caught stuff that would have definitely caused rejections.

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That's exactly what I need. Manual review is taking forever and I keep second-guessing myself on whether names match exactly.

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Diego Mendoza

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The automation makes such a difference when you're dealing with volume. Wish I'd known about it sooner.

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How long did your cleanup take once you had the verification sorted out?

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Chloe Harris

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About 3 weeks total for 35 terminations across 6 states. Most of that was waiting for state processing times, not the actual prep work.

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That timeline sounds reasonable for the scope. Did you run into any issues with the automated verification flagging false positives, or was it pretty accurate at identifying real discrepancies?

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