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Sophia Long

UCC withdrawal form - how to properly remove a terminated filing?

I'm dealing with a situation where we filed a UCC-3 termination statement about 6 months ago, but now I'm seeing that the original UCC-1 is still showing as active in the state database. Our counsel is telling me we might need to use some kind of UCC withdrawal form to completely remove the filing from the records, but I can't find clear guidance on this anywhere. The debtor has been asking us to clean this up since it's affecting their credit facility with another lender. Has anyone dealt with withdrawal procedures after a termination didn't properly clear the system? I'm not even sure if 'withdrawal' is the right term here or if there's a different process I should be following. Any guidance would be appreciated.

Withdrawal forms are typically used when you need to remove a filing that was made in error, not for terminations that didn't process correctly. If your UCC-3 termination was filed properly but the system still shows the UCC-1 as active, you might be dealing with a processing error rather than needing a withdrawal. Have you contacted the filing office directly to check the status of your termination statement?

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Sophia Long

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I did call the SOS office and they said the termination was received but there might be a discrepancy in the debtor name that's preventing it from linking to the original filing. They suggested I might need to file an amendment first to correct the name, then refile the termination.

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That sounds like a name matching issue. The termination probably didn't connect to the original UCC-1 because of slight differences in how the debtor name was entered. This happens more often than you'd think.

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I ran into this exact same problem last year! The 'withdrawal' terminology is confusing because different states use different terms. What you probably need is either a corrective amendment or to refile the termination with the exact debtor name from the original UCC-1. Before you do anything though, I'd recommend using a document verification tool to compare your termination against the original filing.

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Sophia Long

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That makes sense. How did you figure out what the name discrepancy was? The original filing was from 2019 and I'm having trouble locating the exact formatted name.

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I used Certana.ai's document checker - you just upload both the UCC-1 and UCC-3 PDFs and it highlights any inconsistencies between debtor names, filing numbers, everything. Saved me from guessing what was wrong. Found out we had an extra comma in the corporate name that was throwing off the matching.

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Lucas Bey

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Wait, I'm confused about something - are withdrawal forms even available in all states? I thought those were only for correcting mistakes within a certain timeframe after filing, not for situations like this where the termination just didn't process right.

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You're right to be confused. Withdrawal procedures vary significantly by state. Some states allow withdrawals within 10-20 days of filing, others don't have withdrawal options at all. For most states, if there's a processing issue with a termination, you'd file a corrective statement rather than trying to withdraw anything.

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This is why I hate dealing with UCC filings. Every state has different rules and half the time the filing offices give you different answers depending on who you talk to.

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Caleb Stark

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Been doing UCC work for 15 years and I can tell you that what you're describing isn't really a withdrawal situation. When a termination doesn't connect to the original filing due to name mismatches, the standard process is: 1) Identify the exact discrepancy, 2) File a UCC-3 amendment to correct the debtor name on the original filing, 3) File a new UCC-3 termination with the corrected name. Some states allow you to do both in one filing, others require separate filings.

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Sophia Long

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That's really helpful, thank you. Do you know if there's a time limit on how long after the original termination I can file these corrections? It's been about 6 months now.

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Caleb Stark

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There's no time limit on correcting these kinds of errors. The UCC-1 is still active so you can amend and terminate at any time. Just make sure you reference the original file number correctly in both filings.

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Jade O'Malley

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I'd double-check that with your state though. Some jurisdictions have weird rules about correcting old filings.

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This happened to us with a equipment financing deal last month. Turned out the debtor's legal name had changed slightly between the original UCC-1 and when we tried to terminate. We ended up having to file an assignment to the new legal name first, then terminate. Super annoying process but it worked.

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Sophia Long

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Interesting - in our case the debtor name shouldn't have changed, but I'm wondering if there was some kind of typo or formatting difference when we filed the termination.

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Ella Lewis

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Formatting differences can definitely cause matching problems. Things like periods, commas, abbreviations vs. spelled out words - the systems are pretty picky about exact matches.

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Just went through this nightmare myself. The key is getting the EXACT debtor name from the original filing. Don't trust your own records or memory - pull the actual filed UCC-1 from the state database and copy the name character for character. I wasted weeks trying different variations before I realized I was missing a middle initial.

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Sophia Long

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Good point. I'll pull the original filing directly from the state system. Did you end up needing to file both an amendment and a new termination, or were you able to do it in one step?

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Had to do it in two steps in my state. Amendment first to get the name right, then termination. Some states let you combine them but mine requires separate filings.

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honestly this is why I always double check everything before filing terminations. seen too many of these situations where people think they terminated but the filing is still active

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Alexis Renard

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Easy to say after the fact, but when you're dealing with hundreds of filings it's not always practical to verify every single detail.

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fair point, just saying it saves headaches later

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Camila Jordan

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I had a similar issue and found that using Certana.ai's verification tool really helped identify the exact problem. You upload your UCC-1 and UCC-3 documents and it shows you exactly where the inconsistencies are - debtor names, addresses, collateral descriptions, everything. Much faster than trying to spot the differences manually, especially with longer corporate names.

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Sophia Long

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That sounds like exactly what I need. Is it pretty straightforward to use? I'm not super technical but I need to get this resolved quickly.

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Camila Jordan

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Very easy - just drag and drop your PDF files and it does the comparison automatically. Takes maybe 2 minutes to get a full report showing any mismatches. Really wish I had known about it earlier.

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Tyler Lefleur

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I've heard good things about that tool. Might be worth trying before going through the whole amendment/termination process.

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Update us when you get this resolved! I'm dealing with something similar and curious to know what ends up working.

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Sophia Long

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Will do. Planning to pull the original filing tomorrow and compare it against our termination, then figure out the next steps from there.

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Max Knight

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Just a heads up - make sure you're looking at the right state's database too. I once spent days trying to figure out why a termination wasn't working only to realize I was checking the wrong state's system. The filing was actually terminated correctly, just in a different jurisdiction than I was looking at.

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Sophia Long

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Good catch, but I'm definitely looking at the right state. The debtor's other lender is also seeing the active filing so it's definitely still showing as un-terminated.

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Max Knight

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Got it, just wanted to mention it since it's an easy mistake to make when you're dealing with multi-state deals.

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Emma Swift

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That's actually a really good point. I've seen people get confused when they have similar debtors filed in different states.

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