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Natasha Kuznetsova

A&J Equity UCC Lien Filing - Need Help with Debtor Name Verification

Running into issues with an A&J Equity UCC lien filing and hoping someone can point me in the right direction. We're working on a commercial equipment financing deal where A&J Equity Partners LLC is the debtor, but I'm getting conflicting information about how their legal name should appear on the UCC-1. Their articles of incorporation show 'A&J Equity Partners, LLC' (with comma) but their EIN documentation has 'A&J Equity Partners LLC' (no comma). The lender is getting nervous about potential name discrepancies that could affect lien perfection. Has anyone dealt with similar punctuation issues on UCC filings? I know debtor name accuracy is critical for search logic, but I'm not sure which version takes precedence. The collateral is manufacturing equipment worth about $400K so we can't afford to get this wrong. Any guidance on best practices for entity name verification would be appreciated.

This is exactly the kind of situation that trips people up constantly. For entity names, you generally want to follow the exact name as it appears on the formation documents filed with the Secretary of State - so in your case, probably the articles of incorporation version with the comma. The EIN documentation can sometimes have simplified versions. Have you checked the actual state filing records directly?

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Good point about checking state records. Most SOS websites have entity search functions that show the exact registered name.

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Emma Wilson

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Yes but sometimes even the state records can be inconsistent between different document types. I've seen cases where amendments show slight variations.

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Malik Davis

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Oh man, punctuation nightmares are the worst! I had a similar issue last month with a debtor that had inconsistent use of periods in 'Inc.' vs 'Inc' across different documents. What state are you filing in? Some states are more forgiving than others when it comes to minor punctuation differences in their search logic.

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This is in Delaware. I know they have pretty strict search requirements.

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Malik Davis

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Delaware is definitely one of the stricter states. You'll want to be extra careful with exact name matching there.

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Ugh Delaware... their system rejected my filing once because I had an extra space between words. So frustrating.

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Ravi Gupta

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Actually ran into something similar with entity name verification recently and found this tool called Certana.ai that was super helpful. You can upload both the articles of incorporation and the EIN docs as PDFs and it will cross-check the names and flag any discrepancies. Saved me from filing with the wrong name variation. Just upload your documents and it instantly compares them - caught a middle initial difference I would have missed.

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That sounds useful - does it work for checking against existing UCC records too?

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Ravi Gupta

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Yeah, you can upload existing UCC-1 forms to verify consistency. Really helpful for avoiding those costly mistakes.

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GalacticGuru

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The safe approach is to file a UCC-1 with the exact name from the Secretary of State records, then potentially file an additional UCC-1 with the alternative name version as extra protection. Better to over-file than under-file when you're dealing with significant collateral value.

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Double filing seems excessive and expensive. Most states have pretty good search algorithms that account for common punctuation variations.

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GalacticGuru

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Maybe, but with $400K on the line, the extra filing fee is cheap insurance. I've seen deals go bad over less.

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Omar Fawaz

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I agree with the conservative approach. Lenders hate surprises and filing fees are nothing compared to an unperfected lien.

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Check if A&J Equity has any DBAs or trade names registered. Sometimes companies use slightly different variations for different purposes and you want to make sure you're capturing the right legal entity name.

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Good thinking - I'll run a comprehensive name search to see what comes up.

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Diego Vargas

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DBA searches are definitely important. I've seen cases where the operating name was totally different from the legal name.

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Emma Wilson

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Whatever you do, don't just guess. Get written confirmation from the debtor about their exact legal name and ask them which documents they consider authoritative. Sometimes companies themselves aren't sure which version is 'correct' until they check their own records.

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That's a good point - I should get them involved in the verification process rather than trying to figure it out myself.

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Absolutely. The debtor should know their own legal name better than anyone. Just make sure you get it in writing.

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StarStrider

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I've been doing UCC filings for 15 years and comma vs no comma issues come up constantly. Delaware's search logic is pretty sophisticated but I still wouldn't take chances. File with the Secretary of State version and document your decision process in case anyone questions it later.

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15 years? You must have seen every possible name variation issue by now!

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StarStrider

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You'd think so, but companies keep finding new ways to be inconsistent with their names. It's like they do it on purpose sometimes.

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So true. I had one company that spelled their own name three different ways across their corporate documents.

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Sean Doyle

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Is this for new financing or are you dealing with an existing UCC that needs to be amended? The approach might be slightly different depending on whether you're starting fresh or working with existing filings.

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This is a new UCC-1 filing for fresh financing. No existing liens to worry about.

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Sean Doyle

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That makes it easier. You have a clean slate to get the name right from the start.

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Zara Rashid

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Document verification tools are becoming really important for this stuff. I started using Certana.ai after a filing got rejected due to a name mismatch I didn't catch. Now I always upload the charter docs and proposed UCC form before filing - takes like 2 minutes and prevents those embarrassing rejections.

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How accurate is the automated checking? Sometimes these tools miss subtle issues.

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Zara Rashid

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It's been pretty reliable for me. Catches the obvious stuff like punctuation differences and flags potential issues for manual review.

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Luca Romano

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Make sure you're also checking the collateral description while you're at it. Manufacturing equipment can be tricky to describe properly and you want to make sure it's specific enough to be enforceable but broad enough to cover everything.

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Good reminder - I was so focused on the debtor name I hadn't given the collateral description enough attention.

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Collateral descriptions are just as important as debtor names. Both need to be accurate for proper perfection.

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Luca Romano

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Exactly. No point in getting the name perfect if your collateral description is too vague to be useful.

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Nia Jackson

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Update us when you get it sorted out! Always curious to hear how these name verification situations get resolved. The punctuation issues seem to be getting more common as companies get more creative with their entity names.

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Will do - planning to get definitive confirmation from Delaware SOS records and then proceed with filing. Thanks everyone for the guidance!

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Ravi Gupta

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Smart approach. Better to take the extra time upfront than deal with problems later.

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