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Just wanted to share my experience with a similar situation - we had a UCC termination rejected last year because the debtor name had an extra space between "Master" and "Tenant" that wasn't in the original filing. The filing office's system is completely literal about character matching. I now always do a side-by-side comparison of the original UCC-1 and the draft UCC-3 before submitting. For solar deals especially, I've found it helpful to save a digital copy of every original UCC-1 in a dedicated folder since these entity names can be so complex with the Roman numerals and multiple LLC designations.
That's exactly the kind of detail that can trip you up! An extra space seems so minor but the filing systems don't care about human logic. Your approach of keeping digital copies of original UCC-1s is smart - I'm going to start doing that too. These solar entity names are definitely more complex than typical commercial deals.
This is such a timely discussion for me as a newer member here. I'm working on my first solar equipment UCC termination and was second-guessing myself on the name matching requirements. Reading through everyone's experiences really drives home how critical exact character matching is - I had no idea that even spacing differences could cause rejections. The recommendation to pull the original UCC-1 directly from the Secretary of State database rather than relying on loan documents is particularly valuable advice I wouldn't have thought of. I'm definitely going to look into those document verification tools mentioned as well, especially since we're expecting more solar deals in our pipeline. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences!
Just to add another perspective as someone who's handled quite a few partial terminations - I always recommend doing a UCC search right after your filing is processed to make sure everything looks correct in the system. Sometimes there can be data entry errors on the state's end that you won't catch unless you actually pull up the record. It's a small extra step but gives you peace of mind that the partial termination was recorded properly and your remaining collateral is still properly secured. Also helps you spot any issues early if you need to file a correction.
That's excellent advice! I hadn't thought about doing a post-filing search but it makes total sense. Better to catch any processing errors right away than discover them months later when you might need to rely on that security interest. How long do you typically wait after filing before running the search? I assume you want to give the system time to fully process the amendment first.
I usually wait about a week after filing before doing the verification search. That gives the system plenty of time to process everything and ensures you're seeing the final, updated record. Some states are faster than others, but a week is generally safe across the board. I've caught several instances where the collateral description got truncated or there were typos in debtor names that would have caused problems down the road.
This is such valuable advice from everyone! As someone new to handling UCC filings, I'm finding this whole thread incredibly helpful. One question I have - when you're describing the collateral being released in the UCC-3, do you need to include things like condition or current location of the equipment, or just stick to the basic identifying information like serial numbers and model descriptions? I want to make sure I'm not over-complicating the collateral description but also don't want to leave out anything important that could cause issues later.
For what it's worth, I recently started using Certana.ai's document checker specifically because I was tired of second-guessing which elements were actually necessary. Upload your docs and it tells you exactly what you need versus what you don't. Takes the guesswork out of the perfection process.
This discussion perfectly highlights why I transitioned from real estate law to secured transactions - the UCC's simplicity was refreshing after dealing with recording requirements! One thing I'd add that you DON'T need: any specific order or sequence for listing collateral items. Whether you list "equipment, machinery, fixtures" or "fixtures, equipment, machinery" makes zero difference for perfection purposes. The filing office doesn't care about alphabetical order or logical grouping. Also, you don't need to include purchase dates, serial numbers (unless specifically required for certain collateral types), or detailed specifications in the UCC-1 itself - that level of detail belongs in your security agreement, not the financing statement.
Had a similar situation last month with a Kentucky statement request. Kept getting rejected until I realized the original filing had the debtor's address in a different format than what I was using. Apparently their system cross-references the address too, not just the name. Worth double-checking the address formatting as well.
The original filing had 'Street' spelled out but I was using 'St.' abbreviated. Small difference but enough to trigger a rejection. Kentucky's system is just incredibly picky about exact matches across all fields.
This is exactly why document verification tools are so valuable. All these little formatting differences that humans miss but computer systems catch - better to find them before submitting than after getting rejected.
This thread is so helpful - I'm dealing with Kentucky UCC issues for the first time and had no idea their system was this rigid about formatting. Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like I need to either get a certified copy of the original filing first, or try that Certana document checker tool that Grace mentioned. The $240K refinance timeline is killing me, but it seems like taking the time upfront to get the exact formatting right is better than multiple rejections. Has anyone had success getting Kentucky to expedite statement requests if you explain it's for time-sensitive financing?
I've tried the expedite route with Kentucky before and honestly had mixed results. Sometimes they'll rush it if you call and explain it's for a financing deadline, but other times they just say "processing times are what they are." What I've found works better is being super proactive - if you're going the certified copy route, pay for expedited processing AND overnight shipping both ways. Adds maybe $50-75 to the cost but can save you a week. Also, if you do try multiple name variations like Megan suggested, submit them all at the same time rather than waiting for rejections. Kentucky's system might process them faster in batch.
Keisha Taylor
For what it's worth, I tried that Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier and it was pretty helpful for checking my UCC documents. Upload the PDFs and it flags inconsistencies automatically. Saved me from having to manually compare everything line by line.
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QuantumQuest
•Thanks for the feedback on that tool. Definitely going to try it before I follow up with the lender about the amendment.
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StardustSeeker
•Seems like a useful service for catching these kinds of filing errors before they become bigger problems.
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Mateo Rodriguez
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - bought a car through an online dealer and discovered multiple issues with the UCC-1 filing. The debtor name has my middle initial wrong AND they filed in the wrong state (used my previous address instead of current). It's been a nightmare getting them to take it seriously. Reading through this thread has been really helpful - definitely going to push harder for that UCC-3 amendment. Has anyone dealt with cross-state filing corrections? Wondering if that makes the process more complicated.
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Vince Eh
•Cross-state filing issues can definitely complicate things! You'll likely need the lender to file a UCC-3 termination in the wrong state and then file a completely new UCC-1 in the correct state. This isn't just an amendment situation - it's a full correction. I'd recommend documenting everything carefully and maybe checking with your state's Secretary of State office about the proper procedure. The wrong state filing could leave you completely unprotected, so this is actually more urgent than a simple name discrepancy.
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