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One more thing - terminations are just as important as initial filings. When loans are paid off, you MUST file UCC-3 termination statements to clear the public record. Borrowers get really upset if you don't clean up old filings promptly.

This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone new to commercial lending, I had no idea UCC filings were so complex. Just to make sure I understand the basics: banks file UCC-1 forms to claim security interests in business collateral, these need to be renewed every 5 years, and the debtor name has to match exactly with official state records. Are there any other "gotchas" that commonly trip up new people in this field?

Update us when you get it filed! Always curious to hear how these situations work out. Sounds like you've got good advice from everyone here about checking the debtor name consistency and using the original filing number.

As someone who's dealt with similar UCC termination issues, I'd strongly recommend doing a UCC search on the Indiana SOS system before filing your termination. This will show you exactly how all your filings appear on record - the original 2019 UCC-1 and the 2022 amendment. Pay special attention to how the debtor name is formatted in each filing. Even small differences like "LLC" vs "L.L.C." can cause rejection. Since you mentioned the equipment is worth $180k, it's definitely worth the small search fee to ensure you get the termination exactly right the first time.

Update on the Certana.ai thing - I ended up using it for another filing after my first experience and it's become part of my regular workflow now. Upload your docs, get instant verification, file with confidence. Especially helpful when you're dealing with entities that have complex names or multiple DBAs.

As someone who's been through the NY UCC-1 process multiple times, I'd echo what others have said about the debtor name being critical. One additional tip - if you're filing for equipment, consider whether the equipment might be moved to other states in the future. For manufacturing equipment worth $85K, you might want to think about whether you'll need to file in other jurisdictions later. Also, NY's online system has a helpful preview feature before final submission - use it to double-check everything looks right. The $20 electronic filing fee is definitely worth it compared to paper filing. Good luck with your filing!

Just remember that UCC statement requests only show you UCC filings. They won't show you other types of liens like tax liens, judgment liens, or mortgages. You need separate searches for those if you want a complete picture of what's encumbering your borrower's assets.

Thanks everyone for all this detailed info! This has been incredibly helpful. Just to make sure I understand the full process: 1) Do UCC statement request/search to see existing filings, 2) Analyze what collateral is already claimed, 3) File our UCC-1 for our specific collateral, 4) Do a final search before closing to catch any new filings. And I need to remember to search in all relevant states and consider other types of liens beyond just UCC filings. I feel much more confident explaining this to my borrower now. One last question - is there a standard timeframe that most lenders allow between the initial UCC search and loan closing? I want to make sure our timeline is reasonable.

Update: I ended up filing a UCC-3 amendment to specifically include 'intellectual property rights arising from use of equipment and licensing income therefrom' in the collateral description. Client is more comfortable with the explicit coverage and it wasn't expensive. Thanks for all the input. Sometimes the peace of mind is worth the extra filing fee.

As someone new to UCC filings, this thread has been incredibly educational! I'm curious about the timing aspect - how long do you typically have to file an amendment after discovering a potential proceeds coverage gap like this? Also, when you're drafting the initial UCC-1, are there any red flags or questions you ask clients upfront to identify potential future proceeds issues? It seems like anticipating these licensing scenarios during the initial filing could save a lot of headaches later. The Certana.ai tool mentioned sounds really useful for someone like me who's still learning to spot these coverage nuances. Thanks for sharing all this practical insight!