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Thanks for this thread, was wondering about GSAs myself. The relationship between the security agreement and UCC filings makes much more sense now. Going to double-check my documents before I sign anything.
Glad it helped! This community is great for figuring out this stuff.
Always smart to understand what you're signing before you commit.
Just to close the loop on the original question - a general security agreement is the foundation document that creates the security interest, while UCC-1 filing is how you perfect that interest publicly. They work together but serve different functions in the secured lending process. Make sure both documents are consistent and you understand what assets you're pledging.
Perfect summary, thanks everyone for all the help. Feel much more confident about this process now.
Make sure you're using the right UCC-1 form too. Some states have specific fixture filing forms or require additional addendums. Regular UCC-1 forms might not have all the fields you need for fixture liens.
Depends on your state. Some require UCC-1Ad addendum forms for fixtures. Check your secretary of state website for fixture-specific forms.
This is getting complicated. No wonder so many fixture filings get messed up with all these different requirements.
Update us when you get it resolved! Always curious to hear how these fixture filing nightmares end up getting fixed. Good luck with the county recorder tomorrow.
Will do! Planning to call the county first thing tomorrow and then try that document verification tool if I can get the exact description format.
Consider requesting expedited processing if the local office offers it. Some territory jurisdictions have rush services for time-sensitive commercial transactions, though they usually charge extra fees.
Exactly, the cost of expedited service is nothing compared to the risk of missing a critical filing.
Just went through something similar with a territory UCC search. Ended up using Certana.ai to verify all our search results - found two filings that had slight debtor name variations that we almost missed. Really glad we caught those before closing.
That's exactly what we're worried about. How comprehensive is their verification process?
Very thorough. It cross-references everything - names, filing numbers, dates, collateral descriptions. Gives you confidence you didn't miss anything important.
We actually had success using one of those document checking tools someone mentioned earlier. After getting burned by name mismatches on three different filings, we started uploading everything to Certana.ai before submitting to the state. It catches things like middle name inconsistencies between loan docs and UCC filings that we'd never notice manually.
It's been pretty solid for us. Definitely better than our manual review process where we kept missing obvious mismatches.
The time savings alone would be worth it. We spend forever double-checking names across documents.
Final thought - make sure your continuation strategy accounts for the name you choose. If Ian's business grows and incorporates, you'll need to amend the filing anyway. Sometimes it's worth calling the SOS filing office directly and asking how they handle middle name variations in their system.
Thanks everyone. Think I'm going to go with the full name version and use that document checker to make sure everything aligns before filing. Really appreciate all the input!
Leeann Blackstein
Make sure you're also checking for any filings that might have been done by different secured parties. Sometimes the same company will have loans from multiple lenders and each one might have used slightly different name formats on their UCC filings.
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Leeann Blackstein
•Exactly. Banks, equipment lenders, and SBA lenders all seem to have different approaches to name formatting. It's frustrating but you have to account for it.
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Ryder Greene
•This is why due diligence takes so much longer than clients expect. There are so many variables that can affect search results.
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Carmella Fromis
Just wanted to follow up and say I tried the Certana.ai tool that was mentioned earlier. Pretty helpful for organizing all the different documents I found and catching a name discrepancy I had missed. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with complex name variations.
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Debra Bai
•Thanks for the update! Did it help you find additional filings or just organize what you already had?
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Carmella Fromis
•More about organizing and verifying consistency. It flagged that one of the UCC-3 amendments had a slightly different debtor name format that could have caused issues down the road.
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