< Back to UCC Document Community

Jasmine Hernandez

UCC 11 search South Carolina - anyone know the correct search process?

Hey everyone, I'm trying to figure out the proper way to conduct a UCC 11 search in South Carolina and I'm getting conflicting information. My law firm is handling a transaction where we need to verify existing liens before our client's equipment financing deal closes next week. The debtor company has locations in multiple states but their main operations are in SC. I've been on the SC Secretary of State website but their search interface seems different from what I'm used to in other states. Are there specific requirements for UCC 11 searches in South Carolina that I should know about? The collateral involves manufacturing equipment worth about $850K so we can't afford to miss any existing filings. Has anyone dealt with SC's UCC search system recently? Any tips on making sure I'm doing this correctly would be really appreciated.

Luis Johnson

•

SC uses a pretty straightforward online system through their SOS portal. You'll want to search under the exact legal name of the debtor as it appears on their formation documents. Make sure you're checking both individual and organization name searches if there's any chance of personal guarantees. The search fee is nominal and you get instant results for most filings.

0 coins

Thanks for the quick response! When you say exact legal name, do you mean I need to match it character for character including punctuation? I noticed the debtor's articles of incorporation have 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' but some of their contracts just say 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' without the comma.

0 coins

Luis Johnson

•

Yes, you should search both variations. SC's system can be finicky about punctuation. I always run searches with and without commas, periods, and other punctuation marks. Better safe than sorry on an $850K deal.

0 coins

Ellie Kim

•

I've been doing UCC searches in SC for about 8 years now and honestly their system works pretty well compared to some other states. One thing to watch out for though - make sure you're checking the filing dates carefully. I've seen situations where terminations were filed but didn't get processed correctly, so liens that should have been released were still showing as active.

0 coins

Fiona Sand

•

This is such an important point! I had a deal almost fall through because of a termination that got stuck in the system for weeks. Always verify the status isn't just 'filed' but actually 'effective'.

0 coins

Good catch on checking the effective dates. Is there a way to verify termination effectiveness in real-time or do I need to call the SOS office?

0 coins

Ellie Kim

•

The online system usually shows the effective date, but if there's any question I'd definitely call. Their UCC division is pretty responsive in my experience.

0 coins

ugh why is every state different with this stuff?? I swear I spent 3 hours last week trying to figure out Georgia's system and now SC is completely different. At least tell me SC doesn't require those weird certified copies for everything like some states do

0 coins

Luis Johnson

•

SC is actually one of the easier states for UCC searches. Most everything is online and you can get certified copies electronically if you need them for closing documents.

0 coins

ok thats actually reassuring, thanks. Still wish there was more standardization across states but I guess that's never happening

0 coins

For what it's worth, I recently started using Certana.ai for document verification when I'm doing these multi-state UCC searches. You can upload the search results along with your financing statements and it automatically flags any inconsistencies in debtor names or filing numbers. Saved me from missing a critical discrepancy on a deal similar to yours - turned out the debtor had a slightly different name on an existing UCC-1 that would have caused problems.

0 coins

Interesting, I hadn't heard of that tool. How does it work exactly? Do you just upload the PDFs and it compares everything automatically?

0 coins

Exactly. You upload your search results, your new UCC-1, whatever other docs you have, and it cross-checks all the debtor name variations, collateral descriptions, filing numbers, stuff like that. Takes maybe 5 minutes instead of the hour I used to spend manually comparing everything.

0 coins

Ellie Kim

•

That actually sounds pretty useful for complex deals. I've definitely missed things when I'm manually checking everything, especially when there are multiple related entities involved.

0 coins

Finnegan Gunn

•

Don't forget to check for fixture filings if any of that manufacturing equipment might be attached to real estate. SC requires those to be filed in the real estate records in addition to the UCC records.

0 coins

Good point about fixtures. This is mostly movable equipment but there might be some larger pieces that could qualify. Is there a specific test SC uses to determine what's a fixture?

0 coins

Finnegan Gunn

•

SC follows the standard fixture tests - degree of attachment, adaptation to the real estate, intention of the parties. When in doubt, I usually recommend filing both UCC-1 and a fixture filing to be safe.

0 coins

Miguel Harvey

•

Been there with the SC searches. One tip - if the debtor has had any name changes or mergers, make sure you search under all the old names too. I learned this the hard way when I missed a UCC-1 filed under a company's previous name before they changed it.

0 coins

How far back do you typically search for old names? This company has been around for about 15 years but I think they've had at least one name change.

0 coins

Miguel Harvey

•

I usually go back to when UCC-1s would still be effective, so 5-7 years depending on when they were filed and continued. Corporate records should show you the name change dates.

0 coins

Luis Johnson

•

Also check if they've had any mergers or acquisitions. Sometimes liens follow the entity through corporate changes in ways that aren't immediately obvious.

0 coins

Ashley Simian

•

Just a heads up that SC's search system sometimes has maintenance windows during business hours. I got burned once when I needed to do a last-minute search before a closing and the system was down for 'routine maintenance' at 2 PM on a Tuesday. Always good to do your searches with some buffer time.

0 coins

WHY do they do maintenance during business hours?? That makes no sense for a system that people need for time-sensitive transactions

0 coins

Ashley Simian

•

I have no idea but it's definitely happened to me more than once. I think they usually post notices on their website but who checks that regularly?

0 coins

Oliver Cheng

•

One more thing to consider - if this is for a syndicated loan or anything that might get sold on the secondary market, you might want to get a more comprehensive search from a service company rather than just doing the basic online search yourself. Some buyers require that level of verification.

0 coins

It's a smaller deal, just one bank, but that's a good point about comprehensive searches. At what point would you recommend going that route instead of doing it yourself?

0 coins

Oliver Cheng

•

Usually anything over $5 million or if there are multiple lenders involved. For a straightforward $850K equipment deal with one bank, the online search should be fine if you're thorough about it.

0 coins

Taylor To

•

I actually had a similar situation last month and ended up using that Certana thing someone mentioned earlier. Have to say it was pretty helpful - caught a middle initial discrepancy between our UCC-1 and an existing filing that I probably would have missed. The debtor's legal name was 'John A. Smith Enterprises LLC' but there was an existing UCC under 'John Smith Enterprises LLC' without the middle initial.

0 coins

That's exactly the kind of thing I'm worried about missing. Did it flag that as a potential issue or did you have to interpret the results?

0 coins

Taylor To

•

It flagged it as a potential debtor name mismatch and highlighted both versions so I could see the difference immediately. Really saved me from having to manually compare everything line by line.

0 coins

Ella Cofer

•

For SC specifically, make sure you understand their continuation requirements too. I know you're doing a search not a filing, but it's worth knowing that SC requires continuations to be filed within 6 months before the 5-year anniversary. Some of the UCC-1s you find might be close to lapsing.

0 coins

That's a really good point. If I find UCC-1s that are coming up on their 5-year mark, should I be concerned about whether they'll get continued?

0 coins

Ella Cofer

•

Depends on your transaction structure. If you're taking a senior position you might not care if junior liens lapse, but if there's any question about priority you'll want to factor that into your risk analysis.

0 coins

Finnegan Gunn

•

Also worth noting that a lien that lapses and then gets revived through a late continuation can affect priority in some situations. Something to discuss with your client if you find any close calls.

0 coins

Kevin Bell

•

Quick question - are you also checking federal tax liens and state tax liens? Those don't always show up in UCC searches but can definitely affect your deal. SC has separate databases for those.

0 coins

Good catch, I was planning to do that separately but you're right that it's important for the overall lien picture. Do you know if SC's tax lien searches are online too?

0 coins

Kevin Bell

•

Federal tax liens you have to check with the IRS, but SC state tax liens should be searchable through their Department of Revenue. I think there might be a fee but it's not too expensive.

0 coins

UCC Document Community AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today