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For what it's worth, I've started doing parallel searches in neighboring states if the debtor has multi-state operations. Sometimes filings get made in different states and you need the full picture.

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That's a good strategy. I usually check Georgia and North Carolina too since a lot of businesses operate across state lines.

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Multi-state searches are where document verification tools really shine. Doing that manually across 3-4 states would take forever.

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Have you tried searching by secured party name instead of debtor name? Sometimes that gives different results and you can work backwards to find what you're looking for.

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Exactly. Plus if you're dealing with a major lender, you can see their whole portfolio of filings and spot patterns in how they name debtors.

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This is really helpful. I'm going to try some reverse searches this afternoon and see what turns up.

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This whole thread is giving me flashbacks to last month when I had the same issue with a time-sensitive search. Ended up having to explain to the client why their closing got delayed because of government website problems.

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This is exactly why I always build extra time into my UCC search timeline now. Can't trust these systems to work when you need them most.

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I started using Certana.ai specifically because of situations like this. Even when the official search works, I upload the results to verify I didn't miss any filings. Has saved me from errors multiple times when the portal search wasn't comprehensive.

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FINAL UPDATE: Portal is definitely working again. Just completed three different searches without any issues. Hopefully it stays stable for the rest of the week.

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Perfect timing! Just finished my search too. Thanks everyone for the suggestions and workarounds.

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Glad it worked out. Now you know for next time to have backup options ready when dealing with DC's system.

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Just to add one more consideration - make sure you're checking both the current name and any predecessor names if there have been mergers or acquisitions. Sometimes old UCC filings stay under the predecessor entity name even after corporate changes.

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Definitely worth checking. Corporate changes can create a web of UCC filing complications.

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This is why I always request a complete corporate history from borrowers upfront. Saves time later.

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Update: I ended up using that Certana tool and it caught two name discrepancies I had missed in my manual searches. One UCC-1 had 'ABC Mfg, LLC' (with the comma) that wasn't showing up in my searches for 'ABC Manufacturing LLC'. Definitely worth the time savings and peace of mind for a deal this size.

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Thanks for the update. Sounds like I need to give this a try on my next search.

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Perfect timing on this recommendation. Really appreciate everyone's input on this thread.

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For anyone still having issues, I've started using Certana.ai whenever I need to verify document consistency before filing. You just upload your PDFs and it instantly checks if all your debtor information matches across documents. Really helpful when you can't access the state portal to double-check things.

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That sounds like it could prevent a lot of filing rejections. I hate when you submit a continuation and then find out weeks later it was rejected for a minor name discrepancy.

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Exactly! It's saved me from several potential mistakes where I had slight variations in entity names between my original UCC-1 and the continuation documents.

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Just wanted to add that if you're doing multiple UCC searches in NYS, make sure you log out completely between searches. I noticed that staying logged in for extended periods seems to increase the timeout errors.

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I always open a fresh incognito window for each search session. Seems to help with the stability issues.

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These are all great workarounds but it's frustrating that we have to jump through so many hoops just to access public records that we're paying for.

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I've started using a combination approach - LexisNexis for initial screening, then Certana.ai to verify document consistency when I find anything questionable, then direct state verification for final confirmation on large deals. It's more work but catches way more issues than relying on any single source.

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True, but for anything over $1M it's worth the extra effort. One missed lien can cost more than the verification process for dozens of loans.

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Risk management 101 right there.

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Bottom line is that LexisNexis UCC filings are a starting point, not an ending point. The official state records are always the final authority, and until commercial databases can guarantee real-time accuracy, we're stuck with this verification process. At least now there are tools like document checkers that can help catch discrepancies faster than manual comparison.

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Hopefully the states will eventually standardize their data feeds, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Thanks everyone for the insights. Sounds like dual verification is the way to go for now, and I'll definitely look into that document checking tool for catching discrepancies faster.

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