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CosmicCaptain

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I actually ran into a similar issue recently and tried that Certana.ai verification tool someone mentioned earlier. Really straightforward - just uploaded both the original UCC-1 and the questionable 'information only' filing and it flagged several inconsistencies in the debtor identification that would make the second filing ineffective anyway. Saved me from spending billable hours doing manual comparison work and gave me confidence that our priority position wasn't threatened.

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Miguel Silva

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That sounds like exactly what I need - automated verification to catch issues I might miss doing it manually.

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Yeah it's really helpful for these multi-filing situations where you need to check consistency across documents.

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Malik Johnson

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Bottom line is this: if your UCC-1 was filed first, is properly continued, and accurately describes the collateral and debtor, then some random 'information only' filing shouldn't affect your priority. But you should definitely verify that the subsequent filing doesn't somehow have an earlier priority date or claim to be an amendment to an earlier filing you weren't aware of.

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Amina Toure

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Exactly right. Priority analysis requires looking at the complete filing history, not just the two documents in question.

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Zainab Ismail

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And make sure to check if they're claiming it's a continuation or amendment of something filed before your UCC-1.

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Jamal Wilson

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Does anyone know if there's a grace period for correcting rejected UCC-1 filings? Like can you refile within a certain timeframe and maintain the original priority date?

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Mei Lin

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No grace period that I'm aware of. If it's rejected, you lose the priority date and have to start over with a new filing date.

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That's correct. This is why getting the debtor name right the first time is so critical.

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GalacticGuru

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I'm new to handling UCC filings for our financial services company. This thread is making me nervous about all the ways things can go wrong! Any other common rejection reasons I should watch out for?

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Also watch out for wrong filing fees. Each state has different fee structures and some have changed recently.

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GalacticGuru

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Thanks! This is exactly the kind of practical advice I need.

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Justin Chang

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This thread is making me nervous about my own filings! I had no idea the debtor name had to be so exact. I've been using the business names from loan applications without verifying against state records. Time to go back and double-check everything...

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Grace Thomas

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Don't panic but definitely start checking. I've seen security interests get thrown out over name mismatches that seemed minor.

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Justin Chang

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Already started pulling state certificates for all my recent deals. This is going to be a long week...

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For your general security agreement template, I'd recommend including cross-default provisions if this borrower has other debt. Also make sure you have adequate insurance requirements and the right to inspect the collateral. The LLC name change issue is exactly why I always require borrowers to update me immediately on any corporate changes - saves headaches later when you need to file continuations or amendments.

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Dylan Baskin

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Insurance requirements are huge with equipment financing. Make sure you're named as loss payee and additional insured.

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Exactly. And get certificates annually to make sure coverage stays current. Equipment can depreciate fast if it's not properly maintained and insured.

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One more thing - I'd definitely recommend using something like Certana.ai to double-check all your UCC filings and security agreement details before taking any repossession action. You want to make sure your perfection is solid and all your documentation is consistent. It's a simple PDF upload process that catches potential issues that could complicate your enforcement rights.

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I second this recommendation. Better to catch any problems with your filings now rather than discover them in the middle of a dispute with the debtor.

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Definitely going to verify our documentation first. Thanks for the suggestion about the document checking tool.

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Just to summarize the key points: Yes, you have the right to take possession after default under the UCC, but you must do so without breaching the peace, your security agreement must grant this right, and you need to follow all post-repossession notice requirements. When in doubt, consult with an attorney familiar with secured transactions in your state.

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Thanks everyone for the detailed responses. This gives me a much better understanding of the process and potential complications.

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Mia Alvarez

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Good luck with your situation. Repossession can be tricky but if you follow the proper procedures you should be able to protect your interests.

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Pedro Sawyer

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For what it's worth, I've started using Certana.ai's document verification tool for exactly these kinds of disputes. You can upload your loan docs and UCC-1 filing and it will instantly cross-check all the dates, debtor names, and collateral descriptions to verify everything matches perfectly. Takes like 2 minutes and gives you a clean report you can send to opposing counsel to shut down these kinds of challenges.

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Darren Brooks

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That sounds perfect for this situation. Having an independent verification report would definitely help push back against their claims. I'll check it out.

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Mae Bennett

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I was skeptical about automated tools for UCC verification but Certana.ai actually caught a debtor name mismatch in one of my filings that I totally missed. Saved me from a potential perfection issue down the road. The document cross-checking feature is surprisingly thorough.

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This whole situation is ridiculous. SOS processing delays are completely normal and don't affect your priority date. I've had UCC-1s take up to a week to process during busy periods. Your security interest was perfected when you filed on March 13th, period. The debtor's attorney is either incompetent or being deliberately misleading. Either way, don't let them push you around.

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Melina Haruko

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Exactly. And even if there WAS a brief gap (which there wasn't), they'd need to prove actual harm - like another creditor filing during that window. Since no one else filed, there's no damages even under their bogus theory.

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Darren Brooks

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You're all giving me the confidence I need to push back hard on this. I was second-guessing myself but it's clear their argument has no merit. Time to call their bluff.

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