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Dmitry Volkov

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For anyone else reading this thread - Article 9 also covers agricultural liens, deposit accounts, and some other specialized collateral types. It's broader than just equipment and inventory, though those are the most common.

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Ava Thompson

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Don't forget about chattel paper and instruments. Article 9 covers those too, though the perfection rules can be different.

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CyberSiren

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And electronic chattel paper has its own special rules under Article 9. The law has really evolved to keep up with technology.

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Since you're dealing with multi-state filings, also remember that Article 9 has specific rules about which state's law governs and where to file. Usually it's where the debtor is located, but there are exceptions for certain types of collateral.

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I had a case where we filed in the wrong state initially because we didn't properly analyze the debtor's location under Article 9. Had to refile everything and pay additional fees.

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Yara Khoury

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That's exactly why I started double-checking everything with verification tools. One small mistake in interpreting Article 9 location rules and you can void your entire security interest.

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Just went through this same nightmare in PA actually. The comma thing is universal - every state I've dealt with requires exact matches. Pro tip: always do a UCC search first to see exactly how the name was indexed, then copy it character for character.

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Evelyn Xu

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Yeah I'm definitely learning that lesson now. Going to be way more careful about name formatting going forward.

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Admin_Masters

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Update us when you get it resolved! I'm dealing with a similar issue in NY and curious if the approach works.

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Evelyn Xu

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Will do! Planning to refile tomorrow using the exact name from the original (no comma). Fingers crossed it goes through this time.

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Dominic Green

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It should work fine. Just make sure you're copying the name exactly as it appears in the search results.

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Amara Adeyemi

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One more tip - if you're really unsure about the debtor name, you can always file a protective UCC-1 under the corrected name while you sort out the amendment. That way you maintain continuous perfection even if there's a name issue with the original filing.

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Amara Adeyemi

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True, but it's better than having a gap in perfection. You can always clean it up later with terminations once you figure out the correct approach.

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This seems overly complicated. Why not just call the filing office and ask them directly about the name formatting?

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Chloe Davis

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Thanks everyone for all the advice! I think I'm going to go with the exact match approach - use the name exactly as it appears on the original UCC-1 for the amendment. And I'm definitely going to check out that document verification tool to make sure I don't have any other inconsistencies. This thread has been incredibly helpful.

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Dylan Wright

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Smart choice. Better safe than sorry with UCC filings. Good luck with your amendment!

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NebulaKnight

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Let us know how it goes! Always interested to hear about successful filings after all this troubleshooting.

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This thread is making me rethink our Oregon expansion plans. Are the filing fees at least reasonable compared to other states, or is it expensive AND unreliable?

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GamerGirl99

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Don't let the portal issues scare you off completely. Just build in extra time for filings and have backup plans. The legal framework is solid.

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Good to know it's just a tech issue and not a systemic problem. Extra time and backup plans - noted.

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Anyone know if they're planning to upgrade their system anytime soon? This can't be sustainable long-term.

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I heard rumors about a modernization project but nothing concrete. State IT projects move at glacial speed anyway.

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Emma Johnson

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probably be another 10 years before they get around to it. government efficiency at its finest.

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Ava Williams

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Just to add another perspective - I've seen situations where relying on the Article 9 comments backfired in bankruptcy court. The trustee successfully argued that a name change made the original filing seriously misleading, even though it seemed like a minor change. The comments didn't provide the protection the secured creditor thought they would.

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Ava Williams

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This was in the Fifth Circuit but I've seen similar rulings elsewhere. Bankruptcy trustees are aggressive about challenging imperfect filings.

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MidnightRider

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Okay, that settles it. I'm filing the amendment. Not worth the risk based on vague commentary.

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Miguel Castro

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Smart decision. I learned early in my career not to rely on Article 9 comments for anything critical. They're useful for understanding the theory behind the rules but when money's on the line, err on the side of over-filing rather than under-filing. A UCC-3 amendment is cheap insurance against perfection challenges.

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PixelWarrior

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This is why document verification tools like Certana are so valuable - they help you spot these issues before they become problems in court.

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Absolutely. The comments create more confusion than clarity most of the time.

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