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Katherine Hunter

How does FAFSA classify associate's degrees for First Gen scholarship eligibility?

I'm trying to figure out if my son qualifies as a first-generation college student for scholarship purposes. His dad has an Associate's degree in automotive technology from a community college, and I have a medical assistant certificate. On the FAFSA, does this count as 'college or beyond' or just 'high school'? I've heard different things from his guidance counselor vs the financial aid office. His guidance counselor says we'd still be considered 'first gen' but I want to make sure we're answering the FAFSA questions correctly. The difference could mean thousands in potential scholarships he might qualify for! Has anyone dealt with this specific situation?

Lucas Parker

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I think associates degrees count as college on the FAFSA so he probably won't be first gen. My brother went through this last year

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That's what I was afraid of. Did your brother end up finding any workarounds or other scholarships he qualified for instead?

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Donna Cline

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The official FAFSA guidelines are clear on this: Associate degrees DO count as college completion. When answering the parent education level questions, you should select "College or beyond" if either parent has an associate degree or higher. The First Generation qualification typically requires that neither parent completed any degree beyond high school. However, there's something important to note - some individual scholarship programs have their own definitions of "first generation" that differ from FAFSA. Some scholarships consider students first-gen if neither parent has a bachelor's degree, even if they have associate degrees or certificates. My advice: Answer FAFSA accurately (college or beyond), but still apply for first-gen scholarships through individual programs that use the bachelor's degree definition.

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Thank you for explaining this! I'll definitely answer the FAFSA correctly. Do you happen to know any specific scholarship programs that use the bachelor's degree definition for first-gen status?

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Donna Cline

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Yes! Look into the Dell Scholars Program, Gates Scholarship, and many state-based programs. Also, have your son directly contact the financial aid offices at his target schools and specifically ask about their first-gen definitions for institutional scholarships. Many schools use the "no bachelor's degree" definition rather than FAFSA's stricter standard.

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i filled this out wrong last yr and had 2 go back and fix it!! the fafsa ppl were no help over the phone, spent literaly 2 hrs on hold and then they hung up on me lolol

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Dylan Fisher

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This is actually a complicated question! The FAFSA itself defines college completion as having any degree beyond high school, which includes Associate's degrees and many certificate programs. HOWEVER! This is where it gets tricky - the definition of "first-generation" varies WIDELY depending on who's asking and for what purpose. For FAFSA completion itself, you need to answer honestly that you have education beyond high school. BUT for scholarship applications, many programs use their own definition where "first-generation" means neither parent has a BACHELOR'S degree. So while your son might not be considered first-gen by the strictest definition, he may still qualify for many first-gen scholarships that use the "no bachelor's degree" standard. Bottom line: Be accurate on FAFSA (say "college or beyond"), but don't give up on first-gen scholarships! Research each scholarship's specific eligibility criteria.

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This is SO helpful, thank you! I'll definitely make sure we answer accurately on the FAFSA form itself. You've given me hope that there might still be scholarship opportunities out there even with the associate's degree situation.

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Edwards Hugo

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I want to emphasize something important here - you should ALWAYS be 100% truthful on the FAFSA. Providing false information can result in penalties including fines up to $20,000, prison time, and having to repay all aid received. The system often cross-references with tax records and other databases to verify information. That said, after correctly completing your FAFSA, I absolutely encourage you to look into institutional definitions of first-generation status for specific scholarships. Many schools and private scholarship foundations define first-gen as "neither parent completed a bachelor's degree," which would include your family!

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Gianna Scott

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I'm going through the exact same thing!!! My husband has an associate's degree in criminal justice but never went for his bachelor's. Our daughter's college has their own "first-gen" scholarship that they said she can still get because their definition is "neither parent completed a 4-year degree." But on the actual FAFSA form itself, we had to list him as "college or beyond" because that's what they consider an associate's degree. It's so confusing how everyone uses different definitions!

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That's really helpful to know! Which college offers that scholarship with the 4-year degree definition? I wonder if any of the schools my son is looking at might have similar programs.

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Gianna Scott

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It's at Central Michigan University. But I know Eastern Michigan and Wayne State have similar policies too. Definitely have your son ask specifically about institutional first-gen scholarships and how they define eligibility! Some schools don't advertise these very clearly but have significant money available.

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Alfredo Lugo

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guys... do certiifcates even count? i thought it was only degrees that count as college. the certificate isn't a degree so maybe just report the dad's associate's??

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Donna Cline

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Both certificates and degrees beyond high school count as "college or beyond" on the FAFSA education level questions. The specific question asks if the parent "completed college or beyond" - and federal guidelines include certificate programs that result in a credential beyond high school. You must report both parents' education levels accurately.

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Edwards Hugo

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Financial aid advisor here. Let me clear this up. For FAFSA purposes, both an Associate's degree and certificate programs beyond high school are classified as "college or beyond." You must answer the parent education level questions accurately based on this definition. However, for scholarship purposes, particularly those targeting first-generation students, the definitions vary widely: 1. Federal TRiO programs define first-generation as neither parent having a bachelor's degree 2. Many institutional scholarships use the "no bachelor's degree" definition 3. Some private scholarships use the stricter "no college completion of any kind" definition My recommendation: - Answer FAFSA questions accurately (college or beyond) - Ask each college's financial aid office specifically about their first-generation scholarship definitions - Search for scholarships using terms like "first-generation" AND "parents without bachelor's degree" The landscape of first-gen scholarships is evolving, with many programs recognizing that students whose parents only completed associate's degrees or certificates still face many of the same challenges as traditional first-gen students.

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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! This really helps clarify things. I'll definitely have my son ask specific questions about first-gen definitions at each school he's applying to.

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I went through this exact situation with my daughter two years ago! My husband has an associate's in IT and I have a certificate in dental hygiene. We had to mark "college or beyond" on the FAFSA, but she still qualified for several first-gen scholarships at her university and through private organizations that define it as "no bachelor's degree." One thing I learned - don't just look at the big national scholarships. Check with your son's high school counselor about local community foundation scholarships too. Many of these smaller, local scholarships are more flexible with their first-gen definitions and have way less competition. My daughter ended up getting three local scholarships totaling $8,000 that all considered her first-gen even though we had to mark otherwise on FAFSA. Also, when he applies to colleges, have him mention in his essays or applications that he'll be the first in your family to pursue a four-year degree. Admissions officers understand the distinction and it can still be a compelling part of his story even if the technical FAFSA definition doesn't classify him as first-gen.

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Oscar Murphy

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As someone new to this community, I'm finding this discussion incredibly enlightening! My wife has an associate's degree in early childhood education and I completed a certificate program in HVAC, so we're facing this exact same dilemma with our son who's a high school senior. What's really helpful is seeing how many people have successfully navigated this situation. I'm particularly encouraged by the stories of students who still received significant scholarship money even after having to mark "college or beyond" on their FAFSA forms. I'm definitely going to start that spreadsheet approach that everyone keeps mentioning - it seems like the key is really understanding that each program has its own definition rather than assuming they all follow the same criteria. One thing I'm wondering about is whether there are any resources or websites that specifically compile scholarships using the "no bachelor's degree" definition of first-generation? It would be amazing if there was a centralized place to find these opportunities rather than having to research each one individually. Has anyone come across anything like that in their search process? Thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences here - this thread has been more helpful than hours of trying to figure this out on my own!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here but have been following this incredibly helpful thread. Unfortunately, I haven't come across a centralized database that specifically compiles scholarships using the "no bachelor's degree" definition, but that would be amazing if it existed! From what I've gathered from everyone's advice, the research process seems to involve checking individual scholarship websites and contacting financial aid offices directly. However, a few people mentioned starting with your state's higher education agency website - they sometimes have lists of scholarships with different first-gen definitions. Also, websites like Fastweb and Scholarships.com let you filter by various criteria, though you'd still need to read each scholarship's specific requirements. Your family's background in early childhood education and HVAC actually sounds like it could be really compelling for scholarships that value practical skills and service to the community. Many programs specifically look for students from working families who understand the value of education and career preparation. Best of luck with your son's senior year - it sounds like you're starting the research process at exactly the right time!

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