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Madison King

FAFSA household size confusion - will listing adult child affect our aid?

I just finished submitting my son's FAFSA for next year, and I'm second-guessing my answers about household size. We have 5 people total living in our home: my husband and I, our son who's going to college, our other high school child, and our 24-year-old daughter who lives with us but files taxes independently and works full-time. I initially put our household size as 5, but then questioned if I should count our older daughter since she's financially independent. When I called the financial aid office at my son's school, they said changing from 5 to 4 "wouldn't make a difference in his aid package" but didn't clearly say which was correct. I'm worried about leaving potentially incorrect information on the FAFSA. Would this trigger a verification? We'll be doing FAFSA for at least 6 more years between both kids, so I want to make sure we're doing everything right from the start. Should I leave it as 5 or change to 4? Does anyone know the official rule for adult children who live at home but file independently?

Julian Paolo

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According to the official FAFSA guidelines, household size includes: 1. The student 2. The parents 3. Parents' other children if parents provide more than half their support 4. Other people ONLY if they live with you AND you provide more than half their support The key question is: do you provide more than 50% of your adult daughter's support? If she pays for her own food, contributes to housing costs, and covers her personal expenses, then she shouldn't be counted in your household size for FAFSA purposes - even if she physically lives with you. Since she files taxes independently and works full-time, it sounds like she shouldn't be counted unless you're still covering most of her expenses.

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Madison King

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Thank you for the clear explanation! She does pay us rent (though admittedly below market rate) and buys her own food and covers all her personal expenses. So sounds like I should change it to 4. The financial aid office was right that it wouldn't affect anything, but I just want it to be accurate.

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Ella Knight

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i had the EXACT same issue last yr!! my son is 22 and lives at home but has a job and does his own taxes. i put 5 on fafsa (us, him, and 2 younger kids) and got flagged for verification!! huge headache that delayed everything by 2 months!! they made me change to 4 and resubmit everything. so annoying

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Madison King

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Oh no! That's exactly what I'm worried about! How complicated was the verification process? Did you have to provide a lot of documentation?

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Ella Knight

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so.many.forms!! had to send tax transcripts, w2s, proof of where my son lived, utility bills with his name...it was a nightmare and my daughter almost missed her first tuition deadline waiting for it all to process

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This is a common question with FAFSA. The financial aid office is probably right that it won't impact the SAI calculation significantly in your case, but technically you should be accurate. The specific rule is the "more than half support" test. Even if she pays some rent and buys her own food, do you still provide more than 50% of her total living expenses when you factor in the below-market rent, utilities, cell phone plan, health insurance, etc.? If you're unsure, you can use the worksheet on the Federal Student Aid website that helps calculate this: https://studentaid.gov/apply-for-aid/fafsa/filling-out/dependency#dependent-or-independent

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This! The support test is what matters, not just where they live. My daughter lived with me but paid market rent and her own expenses, so I didn't count her. No verification issues.

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Jade Santiago

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I work in a college financial aid office, and honestly we see this all the time. The official rule is about providing more than half support, but the system rarely flags this specific issue for verification unless there are other inconsistencies in your application. If you want to be 100% by-the-book accurate: Don't count her if she provides more than half her own support. Count her if you provide more than half. But practically speaking, this single question about household size is unlikely to trigger verification on its own or significantly change your SAI (Student Aid Index) unless you're right on the border of a specific aid threshold.

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Madison King

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That's really helpful context, thank you! It sounds like changing to 4 is the right move since she does support herself for the most part. I just don't want to start off on the wrong foot with FAFSA since we'll be filling it out for years to come.

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Caleb Stone

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Getting through to anyone at Federal Student Aid to ask these questions is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE. I spent 3 days trying to reach them to ask about a similar situation with my stepson. After being on hold for hours and getting disconnected multiple times, I found Claimyr (claimyr.com) which got me through to an agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ The agent confirmed that adult children who file independently should NOT be counted in household size unless you provide more than half their total support - regardless of their physical address. Cleared everything up for me!

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Daniel Price

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omg THANK YOU for this!!! I've been trying to get FSA for 2 weeks about my verification issue!!! gonna try this right now

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Madison King

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I hadn't heard of this service before - might be useful since I've been trying to call about another question too. Did they ask for details about the service or just connect you right away?

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Caleb Stone

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They just connected me to the next available FSA agent. The agent answered my household size question in like 2 minutes. Such a relief after days of trying myself!

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Daniel Price

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I got TRIGGERED by this post!!! 😤 The whole FAFSA household size thing is SUCH A MESS this year with the new system! Last year my husband's adult son from previous marriage lived with us temporarily and I counted him (because he lived with us!) - got SELECTED FOR VERIFICATION and had to provide bank statements, tax forms, proof of address for EVERYONE! Took 2.5 months to resolve and almost lost our kid's financial aid package. The system is BROKEN. They make the rules impossible to understand then punish YOU when you get confused by their terrible instructions.

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Madison King

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Oh wow, I'm sorry you went through that! That sounds incredibly stressful. Did you eventually get everything sorted out with your aid package?

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Daniel Price

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Yeah we finally got it fixed but only after my husband took a day off work to physically go to the financial aid office and refuse to leave until they processed everything. The verification nightmare cut our aid by $3000 until we got it fixed! Still bitter about it lol

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im confused why the school said changing it "wouldn't make a difference"? changing household size definitely can affect aid amounts. maybe they meant in ur specific situation it wouldn't matter bc of income level? id want a clearer answer tbh

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That's actually a good point. At certain income levels, small changes in household size don't meaningfully impact the SAI calculation. The school can see the family's financial details, so they might know that in this specific case, moving from 5 to 4 wouldn't push them across any meaningful thresholds for aid eligibility. But it's always better to be accurate regardless.

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Madison King

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I think that's what they meant - that with our income level, whether we put 4 or 5 wouldn't change what my son qualifies for. But I agree, I'd rather have it be correct either way!

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Ella Knight

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antoehr thing to think about - will ur daughter be on your taxes next year as a dependent? if no then definitely dont count her on fafsa

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Madison King

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No, she files her own taxes and has for several years now. From what everyone's saying, it sounds like we should definitely put 4 for household size.

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Julian Paolo

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Just to add one more thing - the guidance for the 2024-2025 simplified FAFSA actually makes this clearer than in previous years. The official definition now explicitly states that other household members must "receive more than half of their support from your parents and will continue to do so during the award year." So if your daughter is supporting herself through her full-time job and filing independent taxes, the official guidance is to NOT include her in your household size, even if she lives with you. The system is designed to count dependents, not just household residents.

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Madison King

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Thank you for the additional clarification! I'll make the correction to 4 household members. It's frustrating that something seemingly so simple can be so confusing, but I appreciate everyone's help in figuring it out.

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Ava Garcia

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation and was also confused about the household size rules. It's really reassuring to see that multiple people have confirmed the "more than half support" test is the key factor, not just where someone lives. For anyone else reading this - it sounds like the consensus is: if your adult child files their own taxes, works full-time, and covers most of their own expenses (even if they live with you), they shouldn't be counted in your FAFSA household size. Better to be accurate from the start than deal with potential verification issues later! Madison, it sounds like you've got your answer - changing to 4 is the right call. Good luck with the rest of the financial aid process!

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Thanks for summarizing everything so clearly! As someone new to this whole FAFSA process, this thread has been incredibly helpful. I'm actually facing a similar situation with my 23-year-old who just moved back home after college but is working and independent. Reading through everyone's experiences, especially the verification horror stories, has convinced me to be extra careful about getting the household size right from the beginning. It's amazing how something that seems straightforward can have so many nuances!

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Oliver Schulz

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As a newcomer to the FAFSA process, this thread has been incredibly enlightening! I'm preparing to file my first FAFSA for my daughter next year and was already worried about making mistakes. Reading about the verification issues some of you experienced with incorrect household sizes is both scary and helpful - it's clear that being accurate from the start is crucial. The "more than half support" test seems to be the golden rule here. I have a similar situation brewing - my 22-year-old son will likely be living with us when my daughter starts college, but he'll be working full-time. Based on everything discussed here, it sounds like as long as he's financially independent (paying his own expenses, filing his own taxes), he shouldn't be counted in our household size regardless of his physical address. Madison, thanks for asking this question! It's probably helping a lot of families who are in similar situations. The consensus seems pretty clear - go with 4 household members in your case. Better safe than sorry when it comes to potential verification headaches!

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NebulaNova

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Welcome to the FAFSA world! It definitely feels overwhelming at first, but threads like this really help clarify the confusing parts. You're smart to be thinking about this ahead of time - I wish I had been more prepared when we started this journey! Your situation with your 22-year-old son sounds exactly like what everyone's been discussing. If he's working full-time and covering his own expenses, then yes, you wouldn't count him in household size even if he lives with you. The key is really that "more than half support" test that Julian and others mentioned. One thing I learned from reading everyone's experiences is to keep good records of who pays for what, just in case you ever do get selected for verification. But hopefully being accurate from the start will help avoid that headache altogether!

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As someone who just went through this exact scenario last year, I can confirm that accuracy is definitely worth the peace of mind! My 25-year-old daughter moved back home during COVID and stayed, but she has a full-time job and pays her own way. I initially included her in our household size (making it 5) but then realized my mistake after reading the FAFSA guidelines more carefully. I ended up calling the school's financial aid office to ask about making the correction, and they walked me through updating it to 4. The key questions they asked were: Does she file her own taxes? Does she pay for more than half of her own living expenses? Since the answer was yes to both, they confirmed she shouldn't be counted. The good news is that making corrections early in the process is much easier than dealing with it during verification. Most schools are understanding about honest mistakes, especially with household size questions since they're genuinely confusing. I'd definitely recommend making that change to 4 - it sounds like your daughter is truly financially independent based on your description.

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Oliver Brown

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Thank you for sharing your experience! It's so reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. I'm definitely feeling more confident about making the change to 4 after reading everyone's advice here. The fact that you were able to easily correct it with your school's financial aid office makes me feel better about potentially needing to update our FAFSA too. It sounds like as long as we're proactive about getting it right, the schools are generally helpful rather than punitive. Really appreciate you taking the time to share what worked for you!

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Dylan Cooper

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As someone new to navigating FAFSA, this entire discussion has been incredibly valuable! I'm in a very similar boat - we have a 23-year-old who recently graduated and moved back home while job hunting, but she's financially independent and files her own taxes. Reading through everyone's experiences, especially the verification nightmares some of you dealt with, has really driven home how important it is to get these details right from the start. The "more than half support" test seems to be the consistent theme across all the advice here. Madison, it sounds like you've gotten great guidance from everyone - definitely go with 4 for your household size since your daughter is supporting herself. I'm bookmarking this thread for when I fill out our FAFSA next year! It's amazing how something that seems like it should be straightforward can have so many nuances. Thank you for asking the question that so many of us needed answered!

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Dylan Wright

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I'm so glad this thread exists too! As another newcomer to the FAFSA process, I was completely overwhelmed by all the different rules and requirements. This household size issue seems to trip up a lot of families, which makes sense given how confusing the wording can be in the official guidelines. What really stands out to me from reading everyone's experiences is how important it is to focus on financial support rather than just living arrangements. The "more than half support" test that keeps getting mentioned seems like the key factor to remember. It's also helpful to see that schools and financial aid offices are generally understanding when families make honest corrections early in the process. I'm definitely taking notes for when my turn comes! The verification horror stories are scary, but it sounds like being proactive and accurate from the start goes a long way toward avoiding those issues. Thanks to Madison for starting this discussion and to everyone who shared their experiences!

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Emma Thompson

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As someone just starting to navigate the FAFSA world with my first college-bound child, this thread has been a goldmine of information! The household size question has been keeping me up at night because we have a 22-year-old who lives with us but works full-time and handles all his own expenses. Reading through everyone's experiences, especially the verification stories, has convinced me that getting this right from the beginning is crucial. The "more than half support" test that Julian and others have mentioned seems to be the definitive answer - if your adult child is financially independent (working, filing their own taxes, covering their own expenses), they shouldn't be counted in household size regardless of their physical address. Madison, it sounds like changing to 4 is definitely the right move for your situation. Your daughter paying rent and covering her own expenses clearly indicates she's providing more than half of her own support. Better to be accurate now than deal with potential verification headaches later! This community is such a valuable resource for navigating these confusing processes. Thank you for asking the question so many of us needed answered!

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Amara Chukwu

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This thread has been such a lifesaver! I'm also new to the FAFSA process and was completely confused about household size rules. My 20-year-old stepson lives with us part-time but has his own job and files independently - I was going back and forth on whether to count him or not. After reading everyone's experiences, especially the verification nightmares, it's clear that the "more than half support" test is what really matters. If they're financially independent, don't count them even if they live with you. Madison, you definitely made the right call changing to 4! It's amazing how this one thread has probably saved dozens of families from making the same mistake. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - this community is incredibly helpful for those of us just starting this journey!

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Nia Thompson

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As someone who's been helping families navigate FAFSA for years through my work as a college counselor, I want to echo what everyone here has said about the "more than half support" test being the key factor. Madison, you're absolutely making the right decision to change your household size to 4. What I often tell families is to think about it this way: if your adult child moved out tomorrow, would your family's financial obligations change significantly? In your daughter's case, since she pays rent, buys her own food, and covers her personal expenses, the answer is probably no - which confirms she shouldn't be counted. One practical tip for anyone reading this: keep a simple record of who pays for what (rent, groceries, insurance, etc.) for adult children living at home. If you ever do get selected for verification, having that documentation makes the process much smoother. But based on your description, Madison, you should be in good shape with household size of 4. The fact that she files independently and works full-time makes this a pretty clear-cut case.

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Alicia Stern

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Thank you so much for that perspective from a professional college counselor! The "would your financial obligations change if they moved out" test is such a practical way to think about it. In our case, the answer is definitely no - if our daughter moved out tomorrow, we'd actually save money since we wouldn't be collecting her rent anymore. That really clarifies things. I love the tip about keeping records too. Even though we're hoping to avoid verification, it makes sense to document who pays for what just in case. This whole thread has been incredibly helpful - I feel so much more confident about changing our household size to 4 and moving forward with the FAFSA process. It's reassuring to know that this is actually a straightforward situation once you understand the rules!

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Sean Doyle

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As someone who just went through this exact situation with my 21-year-old son, I can definitely relate to the confusion! Last year I made the mistake of including him in our household size even though he was working and filing his own taxes - just because he lived with us. Big mistake! Got selected for verification and it was a complete nightmare. The key thing I learned (the hard way) is that physical residence doesn't matter - it's all about financial support. If your daughter is paying you rent, buying her own food, and covering her personal expenses, then she's clearly providing more than half of her own support. That means household size should be 4, not 5. I'd definitely recommend making that change now rather than risking verification later. Even if the financial aid office said it wouldn't affect your aid package, having accurate information is always better. Plus, like you said, you'll be doing this for years - better to establish the correct pattern from the start! The verification process was honestly traumatic and delayed our aid package by months. Don't risk it when you already know the right answer. Change it to 4 and sleep better at night!

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LunarEclipse

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Thank you for sharing your verification experience - that's exactly the kind of nightmare scenario I was hoping to avoid! It's really helpful to hear from someone who went through it firsthand. The fact that it delayed your aid package by months is terrifying, especially when you're dealing with tuition deadlines. Your point about physical residence vs. financial support really drives home what everyone else has been saying. Since our daughter pays rent, buys her own groceries, and handles all her personal expenses, it's clear she's providing more than half her own support. I'm definitely going to change our household size to 4 right away. I really appreciate you taking the time to warn others about the verification process. It sounds like being proactive about accuracy is so much better than dealing with the consequences later. Thanks for helping confirm that we're making the right decision!

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As someone who's completely new to the FAFSA process (my daughter will be applying next year), this entire thread has been incredibly educational! I had no idea that household size could be such a complex issue, and reading through everyone's experiences has really opened my eyes to how important it is to get these details right from the beginning. The "more than half support" test that keeps coming up seems to be the crucial factor - not where someone physically lives, but who's actually providing their financial support. Madison, based on everything you've described about your daughter (working full-time, filing her own taxes, paying rent, buying her own food), it sounds like she's clearly supporting herself and shouldn't be counted in your household size. I'm definitely taking notes from all the verification horror stories shared here! It seems like being accurate upfront is so much better than dealing with the paperwork nightmare later. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that you can't find in the official FAFSA instructions. This community is such a valuable resource for families navigating this confusing process!

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Mei Chen

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I'm also completely new to this process and this thread has been such a revelation! Like you, I had no idea household size could be so tricky. I'm in a similar boat - my son will be starting college in two years and we have his older brother (24) who might be living with us by then while he's between jobs. Reading through everyone's experiences, especially the verification nightmares, has really emphasized how crucial it is to understand these rules before filling anything out. The "more than half support" test seems to be the golden standard that everyone keeps coming back to. It's actually pretty logical when you think about it - FAFSA wants to know who you're financially responsible for, not just who happens to live at your address. Madison, you've gotten such great advice here! Your situation seems crystal clear based on what you've shared. I'm bookmarking this entire conversation for when my time comes. Thanks for asking the question that so many of us future FAFSA filers needed to hear answered!

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Zara Rashid

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As someone who just completed my first FAFSA last month, this discussion has been incredibly helpful! I made the mistake of overthinking the household size question initially - we have my 23-year-old nephew living with us temporarily, and I almost counted him even though he pays us rent and has his own job. After reading through all the advice here about the "more than half support" test, it's so clear that the key isn't physical address but financial dependency. Madison, your daughter sounds exactly like someone who shouldn't be counted - working full-time, filing independently, paying rent, and covering her own expenses means she's definitely providing more than half of her own support. The verification stories shared here are honestly terrifying! It really drives home how important it is to be accurate from the start rather than having to deal with months of paperwork and potential delays to financial aid packages. I'm so glad I found this thread before submitting - it's probably saved me from making the same mistake. Change it to 4 and avoid the headache!

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