FAFSA household size confusion - college student not claimed as dependent but have high schooler
I'm filling out the FAFSA for 2024-25 and stuck on the household size question. My situation: we have a child in college who we DO NOT claim as a dependent on our taxes, plus another child in high school who we do claim. When answering the household size question, should I put 4 (me, spouse, college student, high school student) or just 3 (excluding the college student)? The wording is confusing me because it asks about "family size" not just dependents. The college student doesn't live at home during school but comes back for summers. I don't want to mess this up and risk our high schooler's future aid!
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
This is actually a common question! For FAFSA household size, it's based on who you SUPPORT financially, not just who you claim on taxes. If you provide more than 50% of your college student's support (even if you don't claim them as a tax dependent), they should be included in your household size. So if you're still helping with their expenses significantly, your household size would be 4. If they're completely self-supporting, then 3 would be correct.
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Diego Fernández
•Thanks for responding! We pay about half her college costs and she covers the rest through her campus job and student loans. She pays for her own apartment during the school year but lives with us in summer. Does that count as 50% support? The FAFSA instructions aren't clear to me on this.
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Sean Fitzgerald
The exact FAFSA rule is that your household includes: you, your spouse, your children (even if they don't live with you) IF you provide more than half their support between July 1, 2024 and June 30, 2025. The key is the SUPPORT test, not where they live or tax filing status. Add up ALL expenses - tuition, housing, food, medical, etc. If you're covering more than 50% of those costs, count them in your household size as 4. If not, then 3.
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Zara Khan
•omg thank u for explaining this!! ive been stuck on this same question for like 3 days and none of the ppl at my kids school could give me a straight answer!!
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MoonlightSonata
ugh the fafsa is so annoying with these questions. i went through this with my son last year and we just guessed. nobody ever questioned it. i think they just want to make this process painful on purpose.
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Sean Fitzgerald
•While it can definitely be frustrating, getting these questions right is important because household size directly impacts your Student Aid Index (SAI) calculation, which determines aid eligibility. It's worth taking the time to answer accurately.
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Mateo Gonzalez
I work in college financial aid (15+ years) and I always tell parents to do the math on support. Add up ALL costs for the college student - tuition, housing, food, medical, cell phone, car insurance, etc. Then figure out who pays what. Include student loans in the STUDENT'S contribution (not yours), but any Parent PLUS loans count as YOUR support. If your contribution exceeds 50%, include them in household size and count them as a college student too.
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Diego Fernández
•This is so helpful, thank you! We do pay for her car insurance, health insurance, and phone plus some tuition. When I add it all up, it's probably around 60% of her total expenses. So it sounds like I should count her in our household size as 4 and also count her as in college for the number in college question, right?
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Nia Williams
One mistake I made last year - don't include the value of letting them live at home during breaks! I thought that counted toward the 50% support test but my financial aid officer told me they only count actual expenses you pay. So summers at home don't count unless you're paying for something specific.
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Mateo Gonzalez
•Actually, housing DOES count as support, even when they live at home. The federal guidelines allow for the fair rental value of housing provided to be counted toward support. So if your student lives with you during summers/breaks, you can include a reasonable estimate of what that housing would cost as part of your support calculation.
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Luca Ricci
OMG i was on hold with the federal student aid people for THREE HOURS yesterday trying to get this exact question answered!!! finally gave up. the fafsa website is totally broken too - kept logging me out when i tried to save my progress. has anyone found a faster way to actually talk to a human being at fafsa? this is insane!!
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Zara Khan
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Diego Fernández
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I did the math and we are definitely providing more than 50% support when I factor in tuition contribution, health insurance, car insurance, and phone plan. I'm going to list our household size as 4 and include both children in the count. Just to be super clear - for the "number in college" question, I should put 1 (just the college student) not 2 (since the high schooler isn't in college yet), right?
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Mateo Gonzalez
•That's correct. For 2024-2025 FAFSA, the "number in college" question only counts household members who will be enrolled at least half-time in a degree or certificate program during the 2024-2025 academic year. So if your high schooler won't start college until Fall 2025 or later, you'd put 1 for this academic year's form.
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Aisha Mohammed
I always thought FAFSA was just about who you claim on taxes!! I've been doing this all wrong for years probably costing us thousands in aid eligibility! why don't they make this clearer???? now i have to go back and look at everything again ughhhhh
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Anastasia Kuznetsov
•It's a common misunderstanding! Tax dependency and FAFSA household size are determined differently. The good news is that if you're filling out the 2024-25 FAFSA now, you're focusing on the correct year. Each FAFSA application only affects that specific academic year's financial aid, so previous years don't need to be corrected.
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Connor O'Neill
Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who went through this exact situation last year! The 50% support test can be tricky to calculate, but here's what helped me: I created a spreadsheet with two columns - "We Pay" and "Student Pays" - and listed every single expense for the year. Don't forget smaller things like textbooks, lab fees, transportation costs, and even groceries when they're home. It really adds up! Also, if you're unsure about whether something counts, err on the side of including it in your calculation. The financial aid office at your high schooler's target colleges can always review your household size if they have questions during verification. Good luck!
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Giovanni Mancini
•The spreadsheet idea is genius! I wish I had thought of that instead of trying to do all the math in my head. I'm definitely going to create one now to make sure I'm not missing anything. Did you include things like when you buy them groceries or pay for gas when they drive your car? Those little expenses seem like they could add up over a whole year.
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NebulaNinja
This thread has been so helpful! I'm in a similar situation with my oldest starting her senior year of college and my youngest a junior in high school. One thing I learned from our financial aid counselor that might help others - if you're right at the 50% support threshold and not sure, keep detailed records of everything you pay for. Things like family cell phone plans, auto insurance where they're listed as a driver, medical expenses, and even airline tickets home for holidays all count toward your support calculation. I also discovered that if your college student has a 529 plan that you fund, those contributions count as your support too, not theirs. The key is being able to document it if the school asks during verification!
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Abigail Patel
•This is such great advice about keeping detailed records! I'm new to this whole process and feeling overwhelmed, but reading everyone's experiences here is really reassuring. The 529 plan tip is especially helpful - I never would have thought to include those contributions in the support calculation. I'm going to start documenting everything now so I'm prepared when it's time to fill out the FAFSA for my daughter who's currently a sophomore in high school. It sounds like being organized from the start will save a lot of stress later!
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Carmen Sanchez
As someone new to this process, I'm finding this entire thread incredibly valuable! I have a question that builds on what everyone's been discussing - what happens if your support percentage changes during the academic year? For example, if we start the year providing 60% support but our college student gets a better paying job mid-year and becomes more self-sufficient, dropping our support below 50%? Do we need to update the FAFSA or does it stay locked in based on what we reported initially? I'm trying to plan ahead since my daughter will be starting college next year and I want to make sure I understand all the potential scenarios we might face.
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Nasira Ibanez
•Great question! The FAFSA is actually based on a snapshot in time when you file it, so changes during the academic year typically don't require updates to that year's form. The household size and support calculations are based on what you reasonably expect for the full award year (July 1, 2024 - June 30, 2025 for the 2024-25 FAFSA). However, if there are major changes in your family's financial situation, you can contact your school's financial aid office about professional judgment - they have the ability to make adjustments in certain circumstances. For planning purposes, try to estimate your support level for the entire academic year when you're initially filling out the form.
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Kiara Fisherman
As a parent just starting to navigate this process, I can't tell you how helpful this entire discussion has been! I have twins who are currently high school juniors, so I'll be dealing with FAFSA for the first time next year. Reading through everyone's experiences and advice has given me a much clearer understanding of how the household size calculation actually works. I had no idea it was based on the support test rather than tax dependency - that's such an important distinction! I'm definitely going to start keeping track of all our expenses now and create that spreadsheet someone mentioned. It sounds like being prepared with documentation is key. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and making this intimidating process feel more manageable for those of us who are new to it!
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Zara Mirza
•I'm so glad this discussion has been helpful for you! As another newcomer to the FAFSA process, I've been taking notes on everything shared here. The spreadsheet idea and keeping detailed records really seems like the way to go. One thing that's given me confidence is seeing how knowledgeable and supportive this community is - it's reassuring to know there are people here with real experience who are willing to help guide us through this maze! Starting early like you're doing seems smart. Good luck with your twins' applications next year!
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Maya Lewis
Thank you all for this incredibly detailed discussion! As someone completely new to the FAFSA process (my oldest is currently a high school sophomore), I'm feeling so much more prepared after reading through everyone's experiences. The key takeaway for me is that it's all about the support test - who pays for more than 50% of the student's expenses - not about tax dependency or where they live. I love the spreadsheet idea for tracking expenses, and I'm definitely going to start documenting everything now so I'm ready when the time comes. It's also really helpful to know that things like health insurance, car insurance, cell phone plans, and even 529 contributions count toward the support calculation. This community is amazing - thank you for making such a confusing process so much clearer for those of us just starting this journey!
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Dmitry Smirnov
•Welcome to the FAFSA journey! Your proactive approach to understanding this process early is really smart. I'm also new to all this (my daughter is a high school junior), and this thread has been absolutely invaluable. The support test vs. tax dependency distinction was a complete revelation to me too! I've already started that spreadsheet everyone mentioned and it's eye-opening to see how many different expenses there actually are. It's so reassuring to find a community where people are willing to share their real experiences and help newcomers like us navigate what initially seemed like an impossible maze. Good luck as you prepare for your sophomore's future college applications!
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Connor O'Reilly
As a parent new to the FAFSA process, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly thorough discussion! My daughter is a high school junior, so I'll be tackling this next year. The distinction between the support test and tax dependency is something I never would have understood without reading this thread. I had always assumed it was just about who you claim on your taxes! The spreadsheet idea for tracking all expenses is brilliant - I'm definitely going to start one now to document everything from insurance to groceries to transportation costs. It's reassuring to know there's such a knowledgeable community here to help guide us through what seemed like an overwhelming process. Thank you all for sharing your real-world experiences and making this so much clearer for newcomers like me!
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Zara Ahmed
•I'm in the exact same boat as you - high school junior parent here! This thread has been like finding gold. I was completely clueless about the support test vs tax dependency thing too. What really struck me is how many "small" expenses actually add up - things like family phone plans, car insurance, medical visits, even groceries when they're home. I never realized 529 contributions counted as support either! I'm definitely starting that expense tracking spreadsheet this weekend. It feels so much less scary knowing there are people here who've been through this and are willing to help us figure it out. Thanks for putting into words exactly what I was thinking!
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Natasha Volkov
As a newcomer to this process, I can't express how grateful I am for this detailed thread! My son is currently a high school sophomore, so I have a bit of time to prepare, but reading everyone's experiences has been incredibly enlightening. The biggest revelation for me is understanding that FAFSA household size is based on the support test rather than tax dependency - I had no idea these were different! The spreadsheet approach for tracking expenses sounds like a game-changer. I'm planning to start documenting everything now: tuition contributions, insurance premiums, phone bills, groceries, transportation costs, and even those 529 plan contributions I never realized counted as support. It's amazing how all these "little" expenses can add up to determine whether you cross that crucial 50% threshold. Thank you all for creating such a supportive environment where newcomers like me can learn from your real-world experiences. This process seemed so intimidating before, but now I feel like I have a roadmap to follow!
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Zainab Abdulrahman
•Welcome to the community! I'm also relatively new to navigating FAFSA and this thread has been such a lifesaver. Like you, I had no clue about the support test vs. tax dependency distinction - it's such a crucial piece of information that isn't clearly explained anywhere else! Starting early with that expense tracking is so smart. I wish I had known about all these nuances sooner. One thing I've learned from reading everyone's experiences is that even seemingly minor expenses like textbooks, lab fees, and transportation costs can really make a difference in reaching that 50% support threshold. It's great to see how this community supports newcomers like us with practical, real-world advice. Good luck as you prepare for your son's college journey!
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Keisha Taylor
As someone who's been lurking in this community while preparing for my first FAFSA experience (daughter is a high school junior), I just had to jump in and say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! I came here completely confused about household size calculations and had NO idea that it was based on a support test rather than tax dependency. That's such a critical distinction that seems to catch so many parents off guard! The spreadsheet idea for tracking all expenses is brilliant - I'm definitely implementing that immediately. Reading through everyone's real experiences has transformed what felt like an impossible maze into something I can actually navigate with confidence. It's amazing how this community comes together to help newcomers understand these complex rules. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge so generously!
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Talia Klein
•I'm so glad you found this discussion helpful! As another newcomer who's been following along (my son is also a high school junior), I completely relate to that initial confusion about household size calculations. The support test vs. tax dependency distinction was a total eye-opener for me too - it's frustrating that this crucial information isn't explained more clearly in the official FAFSA materials! I love how everyone here has shared such practical, detailed advice. The spreadsheet tracking approach seems like it will be a real lifesaver when we start filling out forms next year. It's reassuring to know there's such a supportive community here to help guide us through what initially seemed like an overwhelming process. Thanks for encouraging me to finally jump into the conversation!
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