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I'm also dealing with defaulted loans from around that same timeframe (2011) and have been absolutely paralyzed by this situation for over a decade! Reading through everyone's experiences here is honestly the first ray of hope I've had in years. Like so many others, I had completely convinced myself that I was permanently banned from any federal aid and would need to come up with impossible amounts of money upfront. The fact that Fresh Start exists and that rehabilitation payments can be income-based (potentially as low as $9-15/month!) is absolutely mind-blowing to me. I've been trapped in that same shame and avoidance cycle that so many people have described - the fear of facing it felt scarier than just continuing to hide from it, but that just made the anxiety worse over time. It's incredible to see how many people here have successfully gone from defaulted loans to receiving Pell Grants again. That proves this nightmare situation is actually fixable, even though it's felt impossible for so long. I'm definitely going to start with the Fresh Start program since it sounds like the quickest path forward, but knowing rehabilitation is there as a backup gives me real peace of mind. Thank you everyone for sharing your stories so openly - this thread is exactly what I needed to finally stop letting my past mistakes control my future and start taking action to get my life back on track!

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Nia Johnson

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I'm in almost the exact same boat with defaulted loans from 2012! Reading your comment and everyone else's experiences has been so validating - I thought I was the only one who'd been paralyzed by this for over a decade. The shame spiral is so real, and you're absolutely right that avoiding it just made the anxiety compound over time. What really gives me hope is seeing how many people here have broken free from that cycle and are now back in school. The Fresh Start program sounds like such a game-changer - I can't believe I'd never heard of it before this thread! It's wild how we've all been carrying this burden thinking we were permanently screwed when there were actually solutions available the whole time. I'm also planning to start with Fresh Start after reading all these success stories. It feels so good to finally have a concrete plan instead of just living in that constant state of dread. Thank you for sharing your story - knowing we're all in this together makes it feel so much less isolating and overwhelming!

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StellarSurfer

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I'm also in this exact situation with defaulted loans from around 2013, and this entire thread has been such an emotional rollercoaster for me - but in the best way possible! I've been living with this constant dread and shame for over 10 years, absolutely convinced that I had permanently destroyed my chance at ever going back to school. Like so many others here, I thought I'd need to pay thousands upfront or hundreds per month that I simply don't have. Learning about Fresh Start and income-based rehabilitation payments as low as $9-15/month is honestly life-changing information that I wish I'd known years ago! The relief I feel just knowing there are real, concrete solutions is incredible. I've been stuck in that same avoidance cycle where the fear of dealing with it felt worse than just ignoring it, but reading all these success stories proves that facing it is actually manageable. What really gets me emotional is realizing how many of us have been silently carrying this same burden, thinking we were alone and permanently screwed. This thread is proof that we're not! I'm going to start with Fresh Start first thing tomorrow - after reading everyone's experiences, I finally feel like I can take control of this situation instead of letting it control me. Thank you all for being so brave in sharing your stories - you've literally changed the trajectory of my life today!

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Liam McGuire

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Your comment really moved me - I can feel the relief and hope in your words! It's incredible how this thread has brought together so many of us who've been silently struggling with the same situation for over a decade. The way you described it as an "emotional rollercoaster but in the best way" really captures what I've been feeling too while reading through everyone's experiences. It's amazing how learning about these solutions - Fresh Start and those incredibly low rehabilitation payments - can literally shift your entire perspective in a single day. I love that you're starting with Fresh Start tomorrow! That kind of immediate action after years of avoidance shows real courage and determination. You're absolutely right that we've all been carrying this burden thinking we were alone when clearly we're part of a much larger community of people who made similar mistakes in our early twenties and have been paying for it ever since. This thread really is proof that our situations aren't hopeless like we thought. Here's to all of us finally taking back control of our educational futures!

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Carmen Lopez

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I'm going through the exact same thing right now! My mom has been out of work for about 6 months and I was really hoping I could just handle everything myself since she gets overwhelmed with online stuff. But after reading all these responses, it's clear there's no way around it - she definitely needs her own FSA ID and has to sign everything herself. Thanks everyone for the heads up about unemployment benefits counting as income too - I would have totally missed that! And @Natasha Petrov, that Claimyr service sounds really helpful since I know I'll probably have questions once we start filling everything out. Has anyone else used it or have other tips for getting through to FAFSA support when you need help? Guess it's time to have "the talk" with my mom about creating yet another online account 😅

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I feel your pain! I'm literally in the middle of this exact situation right now. The "talk" with parents about creating online accounts is always fun 😂 From what I've learned reading through all these comments, it seems like the key is just being really patient and maybe bribing them with their favorite snacks while you help them set it up! I'm planning to tackle it this weekend - we can suffer through the FSA ID creation process together in spirit!

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I've been helping students with FAFSA applications for years, and unfortunately yes - you absolutely must create a parent FSA ID for your mom even with zero income. Here's what you need to know: 1. Every dependent student needs parent contributor signatures, regardless of income level 2. Your mom will need her own FSA ID to electronically sign your FAFSA 3. She'll report $0 income but still complete asset questions 4. If she received unemployment benefits in 2023, those count as reportable income Pro tip: Make the FSA ID creation a team effort! Sit with her, have all documents ready (SSN, driver's license), and choose a time when you're both patient. The process usually takes 10-15 minutes once you have everything organized. Also, having a parent with low/no income often increases your aid eligibility, so this extra step is actually working in your favor financially. Don't let the technology hurdle discourage you - the financial benefits make it worth the effort!

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Freya Larsen

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This is super helpful, thank you! I really appreciate the pro tip about making it a team effort - I think that approach will work much better than me trying to walk her through it over the phone or something. The 10-15 minute timeframe is also reassuring since I was imagining it would take hours. And you're absolutely right about the financial benefits making the hassle worth it. I keep forgetting that her lack of income actually helps my aid eligibility rather than hurting it. Thanks for the perspective!

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Alfredo Lugo

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Thanks for creating this thread - I was starting to think my computer was dying! I've been having the exact same loading issues for the past three days. What's really frustrating is that I got about 80% through my son's application on Tuesday, but then it froze during the parent financial information section and now I can't even get back to where I was. Has anyone else lost partial progress like this? I'm worried I'll have to start completely over. Also seeing lots of great advice here about trying early morning hours - definitely going to set my alarm for 5am tomorrow and give it another shot with incognito mode. Fingers crossed!

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Olivia Harris

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Oh no, that's so frustrating to lose progress when you were almost done! I had a similar experience last year - got about 75% through and then it crashed. The good news is that the FAFSA system usually saves some of your information even if it doesn't seem like it. When you log back in, try going through the sections again - you might find that some of your data is still there, just not all of it. Also, if you remember roughly what information you entered, it'll go much faster the second time through. Definitely try that early morning approach - seems like that's the magic solution everyone is having success with!

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Just wanted to jump in as someone who works in financial aid at a state university - we're definitely seeing a huge uptick in students reporting these technical issues this week. The FAFSA system gets absolutely hammered this time of year, especially with the new SAI calculations putting extra load on their servers. A few things that might help beyond what's already been mentioned: - If you're using a VPN, try disconnecting it temporarily - Some campus libraries have dedicated "FAFSA completion" computers that seem to work better (might be worth calling your local college to ask) - The mobile app version sometimes works when the desktop site doesn't And please don't panic about missing deadlines! Most schools (including ours) are very understanding about technical difficulties with the federal system. Just document your attempts with screenshots and timestamps. We'd much rather work with families on extensions than have students miss out on aid because of website issues that are completely out of their control.

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Caden Nguyen

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This is so helpful to hear from someone who works in financial aid! I had no idea about the campus library computers - that's a great tip. My daughter's community college is only about 15 minutes away, so I might call them tomorrow to see if they have that option. It's also really reassuring to know that schools are understanding about these technical issues. I've been so stressed about missing the deadline, but knowing that we can document our attempts and potentially get an extension takes a lot of pressure off. Thank you for taking the time to share this insider perspective!

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Hattie Carson

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Wow, this thread has been incredibly helpful as someone just starting to navigate this process! I'm feeling much more prepared now thanks to everyone's detailed explanations. One thing I wanted to add for other newcomers - I just discovered that some colleges have their own institutional loan programs for parents that might have better terms than Parent PLUS loans. I found out our daughter's prospective school offers a parent loan program with a lower interest rate and no origination fee. It's worth asking the financial aid office about all available options during your aid review meeting. Also, for those of you mentioning the complexity of managing multiple loans from different servicers - I've heard some families create a simple calendar reminder system with all the different due dates and servicer contact info. Seems like good organization from the start could save a lot of headaches later. The point about timing applications closer to when tuition is due really resonates with me. Every month of avoided interest accrual adds up! I'm planning to mark my calendar for about 60 days before our first payment is due to start the Parent PLUS application process. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - this kind of practical wisdom is invaluable for families going through this for the first time!

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Sofia Ramirez

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This is such a great point about institutional loan programs! I had no idea some colleges offer their own parent loan options with potentially better terms. That's definitely going on my list of questions to ask during our financial aid meetings. The calendar reminder system for tracking multiple loans is brilliant too - I can already see how easy it would be to lose track of different due dates and servicers if we end up with loans from multiple years. Your 60-day timeline for starting the application process also seems like a smart approach - gives you enough time to complete everything without paying unnecessary interest for months before you actually need the funds. Thanks for adding these practical tips to an already incredibly helpful discussion!

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As a newcomer to this whole Parent PLUS loan process, I just want to say how incredibly helpful this thread has been! Reading through everyone's experiences and advice has really clarified what seemed like a confusing and overwhelming process. I'm in a similar situation to the original poster - my son will be starting college in fall 2025, and my spouse and I were also confused about whether we could apply jointly. It's reassuring to know we're not the only ones who found the official information unclear on this point! The key takeaways I'm gathering are: choose the parent with better credit history (not income), consider the long-term credit impact, explore all other options first, and time the application strategically to minimize interest accrual. The tip about checking for state-specific parent loan programs and institutional loans from the college itself is something I definitely wouldn't have thought to research on my own. One question I have - for those who've been through this process, how much lead time should we realistically plan for getting everything sorted? Between waiting for FAFSA processing, reviewing aid packages, and potentially appealing for more aid, it seems like there are a lot of moving pieces with their own timelines. Thanks everyone for creating such a valuable resource for families navigating this process!

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Noah huntAce420

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As a newcomer to this community and the financial aid world, I just wanted to add my voice to this incredibly helpful discussion! Miguel, your question was exactly what I needed to see - I just received my SAI of -1800 and was completely confused about whether that was good or bad news. Reading through all these detailed responses has been like getting a crash course in financial aid from people who actually know what they're talking about! I'm especially grateful for the practical tips about setting up financial aid portals, creating spreadsheets for deadlines, and understanding that negative SAI means high financial need rather than something I messed up. The advice about checking state aid programs and asking schools about their specific policies is going to be so valuable as I move forward. It's amazing to see how this community comes together to help first-time applicants navigate such a complex but crucial process. Thanks to everyone who shared their expertise - you're making college feel much more achievable for those of us who are figuring this out as we go!

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Debra Bai

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Welcome to the community, Noah! I'm so glad this thread helped clarify things for you too - it's incredible how many of us were in the exact same boat, panicking about negative SAI numbers! Your -1800 is actually fantastic news for your financial aid prospects, even better than my -1500. It's been amazing to see how this discussion has evolved into such a comprehensive resource for understanding the whole process. The collective wisdom shared here - from understanding SAI basics to practical organizational tips - has honestly been more helpful than any official guide I've read. I love seeing how many newcomers this thread is helping! It really shows the power of community support in navigating these complex systems. Best of luck as you move forward with your applications - sounds like you're going to be in an excellent position for aid with that SAI!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm incredibly grateful for this comprehensive discussion! Miguel, your question perfectly captured what so many first-time FAFSA applicants are experiencing. I just received my SAI results showing -2050 and was honestly terrified, thinking I had made some catastrophic error in my application. Reading through everyone's detailed explanations about how negative SAI actually indicates high financial need has been such a relief! The practical advice shared here is invaluable - especially the tips about setting up financial aid portals early, creating spreadsheets to track deadlines, and understanding that each school will use your SAI differently. I'm particularly grateful for the insights about state aid programs and work-study opportunities, which I hadn't even considered. It's amazing to see financial aid professionals, experienced students, and supportive parents all contributing their knowledge to help newcomers navigate this complex process. This thread is going to be my go-to reference as I work through my applications. Thank you all for creating such a supportive and informative community!

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