Will my 401k withdrawal affect my ESD unemployment benefits? Getting conflicting answers
So I made what might be a dumb financial move last month. I took an early withdrawal (about $8,500) from my 401k to cover some emergency medical bills after getting laid off from my construction job. I know I'll get hit with taxes and that 10% penalty, but what I'm really confused about is how/if I need to report this to ESD on my weekly claims. The online instructions are super confusing about retirement income vs. withdrawals. I've been claiming for 6 weeks and haven't reported it because I didn't think it counted as income (it's my own money, right?). But now I'm stressing that I might get flagged for fraud or something. Has anyone dealt with this? Do early 401k withdrawals count as income for unemployment purposes? Freaking out a bit here.
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Zara Rashid
You DO need to report it! I withdrew $5k from my IRA last year and didn't report it initially. Got hit with an overpayment notice 3 months later because ESD somehow found out (probably from tax records). They considered it income for the week I received it and reduced my benefit for just that week. Had to pay back about $700 and went through a whole mess trying to explain I didn't understand the rule. Save yourself the headache and report it NOW before they catch it!
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Sean Doyle
AuthorOh crap, seriously?? But it's MY money that I already paid taxes on when I earned it! This makes no sense. So I just report it for the week I got the money? Will they disqualify all my benefits or just for that week?
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Luca Romano
There's actually an important distinction here. ESD treats different retirement-related money differently: 1. Regular pension/retirement PAYMENTS (like monthly distributions) = reportable income 2. One-time withdrawals from YOUR OWN 401k/IRA = generally NOT considered income for UI purposes The key is whether it's a regular payment vs. a one-time withdrawal of your own contributions. This is a common misunderstanding, and some ESD agents even give incorrect information about it. The official ESD handbook states that withdrawal of your own contributions from retirement accounts is NOT deductible income for UI purposes. I would recommend calling ESD directly to get this clarified for your specific situation, though getting through can be challenging.
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Zara Rashid
Hmm, now I'm confused. When I called ESD about my situation last year they specifically told me I had to report it. Maybe the agent I spoke with was wrong? The whole system is so inconsistent.
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Nia Jackson
i went thru this exact thing!! the rules r super confusing. i ended up having to appeal my case and won because one-time withdrawals from your OWN 401k or IRA are NOT counted as income for unemployment. but if its a regular payment or distribution from a pension then yes u have to report it. the ESD website is garbage at explaining this clearly lol
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Sean Doyle
AuthorThanks for sharing your experience! Did you have to go through a whole appeal process or were you able to clear it up with a phone call? I'm worried they'll cut off my benefits entirely if there's a problem.
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Mateo Hernandez
After struggling with this exact question last year, I finally got a definitive answer from an ESD supervisor. Here's the ACTUAL policy: - Lump sum withdrawals from your OWN contributions to retirement accounts (401k, IRA, etc.) are NOT considered deductible income for UI purposes - Regular pension payments ARE deductible income - Employer contributions that you withdraw MAY be deductible The confusion happens because some ESD agents don't understand their own rules. The problem is getting through to someone who knows the correct policy. I spent 3 weeks trying to get someone on the phone who could help. BTW - I finally got through to ESD using Claimyr (claimyr.com). They have a service that basically waits on hold for you then calls you when an agent is about to pick up. They also have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3. Saved me hours of frustration and I was able to talk to someone who actually knew the rules about retirement withdrawals.
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Sean Doyle
AuthorThank you! This is so helpful. I'll check out that service because I've been trying to call for days and can't get through. It's bizarre that even their own agents don't seem to know the rules consistently.
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CosmicCruiser
THEY'RE ALL WRONG!!! ESD absolutely counts 401k withdrawals as income!!! I got AUDITED last year and had to repay THOUSANDS because I listened to bad advice like what people are giving here. If you got money, YOU REPORT IT! Don't mess around with these people, they WILL find out and then you're screwed with penalties and interest!!!!
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Luca Romano
I understand your frustration, but there is an important nuance in the rules. The official ESD handbook makes a distinction between regular pension payments (reportable) and one-time withdrawals of your own contributions (not reportable). It sounds like your situation might have involved regular distributions or employer contributions, which are treated differently. This is why getting clarification from ESD for each specific situation is so important.
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Aisha Khan
my brother had this happen. he took money from his 401k and didnt report it. nothing happened for like 6 months then he got a letter saying he had an overpayment. had to pay back 1 week of benefits i think. its really dumb how they treat it like income when its literally YOUR money that you already earned.
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Ethan Taylor
The issue often comes down to whether it was employer-matched funds or your own contributions. Employer-matched funds that you withdraw are technically new income you're receiving. Your own contributions that you previously made with after-tax dollars aren't supposed to be counted. But ESD's systems aren't sophisticated enough to automatically tell the difference, which leads to these problems.
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Zara Rashid
Just wanted to follow up on my earlier comment - I called ESD again today to double-check because this conversation made me realize I might have received incorrect information before. The agent confirmed that a one-time withdrawal from my own 401k contributions should NOT have been counted as income for UI purposes. They're now reviewing my case for possible adjustment of the overpayment. So I was given wrong information initially! Sorry for adding to the confusion.
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Sean Doyle
AuthorThanks for the update! This is actually a huge relief. I'm going to call them to confirm for my specific situation. Did you end up using that Claimyr service the other commenter mentioned? I'm still having trouble getting through on the regular line.
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Ethan Taylor
Hi there - I work with a legal aid organization that helps with unemployment issues. Let me clarify this situation: Under Washington state unemployment insurance law, a ONE-TIME withdrawal from your OWN 401k/IRA contributions is NOT considered deductible income for UI purposes. However, there are exceptions: 1. If you're receiving REGULAR retirement payments/distributions, those ARE deductible 2. If you're withdrawing employer-matched funds, those MAY be deductible 3. If you're receiving payments from a pension fund based on previous employment, that IS deductible The reason for the confusion is that ESD's written materials don't clearly distinguish these cases, and unfortunately, not all ESD representatives are properly trained on this distinction. If you've made a one-time withdrawal of your own contributions, you technically don't need to report it. However, I always advise clients to call ESD and get the answer documented (ask for the agent's name and ID number, and note the date/time of the call).
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Sean Doyle
AuthorThank you so much for this detailed explanation! It makes so much more sense now. I'll definitely call and get it documented. Really appreciate you taking the time to break it down clearly.
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Ava Thompson
I'm dealing with something similar right now - took out about $6k from my 401k last month for car repairs after losing my job. Been going back and forth on whether to report it too. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like the key thing is making sure it was YOUR contributions vs employer matching funds. I'm pretty sure mine was all my own money since I only worked at that company for 8 months before getting laid off. Still planning to call ESD to be 100% sure though - this stuff is way too confusing to guess on! Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences, really helps to know I'm not the only one confused by this.
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Brandon Parker
You're definitely not alone in being confused by this! I just went through the same thing a few months ago. The 8 months at your company actually works in your favor - most of that $6k was probably your own contributions rather than employer matching since those usually don't vest immediately. When I called ESD (finally got through after using that Claimyr service someone mentioned), they told me that as long as it was my own pre-tax contributions I had made from my paychecks, it didn't count as reportable income for unemployment. But yeah, definitely get it confirmed with them directly since everyone's situation is a bit different. The peace of mind is worth the hassle of trying to get through to an agent who actually knows the rules!
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