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Brandon Parker

ESD requiring 401k withdrawal form - can't reach anyone for help

I'm in a frustrating situation with my unemployment claim. After waiting for weeks with no payment, I had to dip into my 401k to cover bills. Now ESD is asking me to fill out some form about the withdrawal. The lady who called me this morning (finally!) said that lump sum payments from a 401k aren't reportable income, which is a relief. Apparently her colleague who handles retirement benefits helped clear up the issue that was holding things up. But now I've got this form asking for "additional information" about what was taken out of my 401k, and I have no clue how to fill it out correctly. There are sections asking about distribution types and tax withholding that I don't understand. I've tried calling ESD five times today and either get disconnected or stuck on hold for hours. Has anyone dealt with this specific 401k withdrawal form for ESD? What exactly do they need to know? I'm worried about making a mistake that could delay my benefits even more.

Adriana Cohn

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I went through this last year. The form is confusing but what they're really looking for is documentation that shows it was a one-time withdrawal and not recurring income. Make sure you include the 1099-R form you'll get from your 401k provider (or the distribution statement if you haven't received the tax form yet). They need to see the withdrawal amount, the tax withholding, and that it was a hardship or early withdrawal. The most important boxes to fill out are the ones about distribution type (should be "lump sum") and the reason for withdrawal (check "financial hardship"). Hope this helps!

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Thank you! That makes sense. The form has a spot for "distribution code" - is that the same as the distribution type? My 401k statement shows code 1 for early distribution. And should I attach bank statements showing the deposit or just the 401k paperwork?

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Jace Caspullo

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omg the ESD is so confusing with these forms!! i submitted mine 3 times before they accepted it lol. make sure u check the box that says its NOT recurring income or they will reduce ur benefits. they counted mine as income at first and i nearly lost my mind

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Oh no, I didn't see a box specifically about recurring income. Now I'm worried I'll miss something important. Did you have to talk to someone at ESD to fix it or could you just resubmit the form?

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Melody Miles

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This exact thing happened to me! I waited 8 weeks for my claim, had to use my retirement savings, then got stuck in this paperwork loop. The ESD system is BROKEN. I had my claim held up for another 3 weeks because of this stupid form. And guess what? When I finally got through to someone, they said the form wasn't even necessary because lump sum 401k withdrawals aren't countable income for UI purposes. Complete waste of time!

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3 more weeks?! I can't wait that long... my rent is already late. Did calling eventually help resolve it or did you have to just wait it out?

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I work with unemployment issues regularly. For the 401k form, here's what ESD is looking for: 1) Proof that it was a one-time withdrawal (not periodic payments) 2) Documentation showing the gross amount and any tax withholding 3) The distribution code (Code 1 is correct for early distribution) Make sure you check "No" if there's any question about whether this is recurring income. Lump sum 401k withdrawals are not countable as income for UI purposes, but they still need to document it in your file. Submit the completed form with a copy of your distribution statement as soon as possible to avoid further delays.

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This is extremely helpful, thank you! One last question - there's a section asking about "net vs. gross amounts" and I'm not sure what to put. My 401k provider withheld 20% for taxes. Do I need to list both amounts?

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Eva St. Cyr

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After reading this thread i just realized I never reported my 401k withdrawal to ESD at all... it's been 2 months since I got my benefits. Am I going to be in trouble now? Should I call them and tell them??

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Since lump sum 401k withdrawals aren't countable as income for UI purposes, you're likely fine. However, it's always best to report any income or financial changes to ESD to avoid potential overpayment issues later. If you received a specific request to report the 401k withdrawal, then yes, you should contact them. Otherwise, there's probably no need to call about it now.

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I've never heard of this service but I'm desperate at this point. Did you have any issues using it? I just need to talk to a real person who can explain what they need on this form.

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No issues at all. You just provide your phone number and they call you when they've got an ESD agent on the line. Saved me days of frustration. The agent I spoke with was super helpful and explained exactly what I needed to do with my 401k documentation.

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Kaitlyn Otto

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Make sure you list both the gross AND net amounts on the form. ESD needs to see both figures to properly process it. Also, in my experience, uploading the form through your eServices account is faster than mailing it. There should be an option under "Upload Documents" in your account. That way you can track that they received it.

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I didn't even think about uploading it directly! That's a great tip, thank you. I'll definitely do that instead of mailing it in.

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Adriana Cohn

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Just wanted to follow up - for the distribution code question, yes, Code 1 for early distribution is exactly what they need to see. And you should definitely include both the gross amount and the net amount after tax withholding. This helps them verify that it's properly documented as a non-reportable lump sum withdrawal versus ongoing retirement income that would affect your benefits.

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Thanks for confirming! I've filled out the form with all the information everyone suggested and uploaded it through my eServices account. Fingers crossed this gets resolved quickly. I really appreciate everyone's help!

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