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Rajan Walker

Will I get Washington ESD unemployment if I was fired from my job?

My employer terminated me last Friday and I'm trying to figure out if I can even apply for unemployment benefits. I wasn't fired for stealing or anything criminal, but they said it was for performance issues. I had been struggling with meeting their sales quotas for about 3 months. I'm really stressed about this because I have rent due next week and don't know if Washington ESD will approve my claim. Has anyone been in a similar situation? What are my chances of getting benefits approved?

You can definitely apply! Being fired for performance issues doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits in Washington. The key is whether it was misconduct or just not being able to do the job. Performance issues usually aren't considered misconduct unless you were deliberately not doing your work.

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That's a relief to hear. I was really trying my best, just couldn't hit those sales numbers. Should I apply right away?

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Yes, apply as soon as possible. There's a waiting period anyway, so the sooner you file the better. Make sure to be honest about the reason for termination when you apply.

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I got fired for attendance issues last year and still qualified for benefits. Washington ESD looks at whether it was willful misconduct. If you were genuinely trying to meet expectations but just couldn't, that's not misconduct.

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How long did it take for your claim to get approved? Mine has been in adjudication for 2 weeks now.

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Mine took about 3 weeks. They had to contact my former employer to verify the details. Be patient, they're pretty backed up.

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Is that one of those services that charges you? I'm already broke from being unemployed.

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It's worth it when you need to actually talk to someone about your claim. Way better than calling 200 times a day and never getting through.

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The misconduct standard in Washington is pretty high. They have to prove you deliberately violated company policy or were grossly negligent. Poor performance alone usually isn't enough to deny benefits unless there's evidence you weren't trying or were sabotaging your work.

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This makes me feel much better. I have documentation showing I was asking for help and trying to improve my performance.

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Keep all that documentation! If your employer contests the claim, you'll need it for the hearing.

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ugh the whole system is so confusing. i got fired too but for totally different reasons and now im scared to even apply

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You should still apply. The worst they can do is say no, but you might be surprised. Each case is different.

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yeah i guess your right. just worried about them asking a bunch of questions

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I was fired for missing too many days when my kid was sick. Employer said it was excessive absenteeism but I qualified for benefits because I had legitimate reasons for the absences. Washington ESD really looks at the whole situation.

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Did you have to provide medical documentation or anything like that?

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Not for the unemployment claim itself, but I kept records just in case. They mostly wanted to know if I followed company policy for reporting absences.

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Sales quotas are tough! I work in retail and they're always changing our targets. If you were genuinely trying and they didn't provide adequate training or support, that's on them not you.

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Exactly! The training was minimal and the quotas kept getting higher every month. It felt impossible.

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That sounds like they were trying to get rid of people without paying severance. Document everything about the working conditions.

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Been there with the performance thing. Make sure when you file your claim you explain that you were making good faith efforts to meet expectations. That's key language Washington ESD looks for.

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Good advice, thank you. I'll make sure to emphasize that I was trying my best and asking for help.

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Exactly. And if they had any performance improvement plans or coaching sessions, mention those too. Shows you were engaged in trying to improve.

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The adjudication process can be scary but most people who were fired for performance issues do get approved. I've seen people denied for things like theft, fighting, or no-call no-shows, but rarely for just not being good enough at the job.

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How long does adjudication usually take? Mine's been pending for over a month now.

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That's pretty long. You might want to try calling to check on the status. Sometimes they need additional information and don't tell you.

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I used to manage people and had to fire a few for performance. We were always told by HR that unless it was misconduct, they'd probably get unemployment. Most employers don't even contest performance-based terminations.

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That's reassuring from the employer side. Do you think my former employer will contest it?

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Hard to say, but if it was truly just performance issues and not willful misconduct, they probably won't. It's a lot of work for them to contest it.

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Washington ESD's website has a good section about misconduct vs poor performance. Basically, if you were trying to do your job but just couldn't meet expectations, that's not misconduct. Misconduct is when you deliberately do something wrong.

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I wish I had known this when I got fired last year. I was so scared I didn't even apply for benefits for 2 months.

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You can actually backdate your claim in some situations, though you might have missed the window. Always worth applying even if you think you won't qualify.

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Someone else mentioned that service earlier. Might be worth trying if I have issues with my claim.

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I tried calling Washington ESD for 3 days straight before finding Claimyr. Got through on the first try with their service.

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File your claim ASAP! Even if you're not sure you'll qualify, there's no penalty for applying. The worst case is they deny it and you appeal if you think they're wrong.

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You're right, I'm going to file it today. No point in waiting and worrying about it.

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Smart move. And remember to keep applying for jobs and documenting your job search while you wait for approval.

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I know someone who got fired for not meeting their sales goals and they got benefits. The key was showing they were trying - they had emails asking for help, attending training sessions, etc. Washington ESD approved their claim.

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That sounds exactly like my situation. I have emails where I asked my supervisor for additional training and support.

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Perfect! Keep copies of all that stuff. If your employer contests the claim, that documentation will be super helpful.

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The unemployment system is designed to help people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own. Performance issues usually fall into that category unless there's evidence of intentional wrongdoing.

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Exactly. It's not your fault if you're just not naturally good at sales. That's why the benefits exist.

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Thanks everyone for the encouragement. I'm feeling much more confident about filing my claim now.

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Don't let the fear stop you from applying. I thought for sure I wouldn't qualify when I got laid off (technically fired for 'redundancy') but Washington ESD approved my claim within a few weeks. You never know until you try.

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You're absolutely right. I'm going to file online right now. Thanks for all the advice everyone!

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Good luck! Hope everything works out for you. Keep us posted on how it goes.

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One more thing - when you're filling out the application, be completely honest about why you were fired. Don't try to sugar-coat it or make it sound better than it was. Washington ESD will find out the truth anyway when they contact your employer.

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Good point. I'll just explain that it was for not meeting sales quotas despite my efforts to improve.

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Honesty is definitely the best policy with unemployment claims. Trying to hide or lie about details will just hurt you in the long run.

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If you do get approved and your employer contests it, don't panic. You'll get a hearing where you can explain your side. Having documentation of your efforts to improve performance will be really valuable then. Good luck with your claim!

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Thank you so much! Everyone here has been incredibly helpful. I feel so much better about my situation now.

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That's what this community is for! We've all been through tough times with unemployment. Hope you get approved quickly.

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