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Zainab Abdulrahman

Why is aerospace engineering unemployment so high - Washington ESD claim approved after 6 weeks

Finally got my Washington ESD unemployment claim approved after 6 weeks in adjudication hell. Lost my aerospace engineering job at Boeing in December when they cut another 2,000 positions. What's crazy is how many of us engineers are filing for UI benefits right now - seems like half my former colleagues are dealing with Washington ESD too. The job market is brutal, even with a master's degree and 8 years experience. Anyone else seeing this trend in STEM fields? My weekly claim amount is $844 but honestly not sure how long these benefits will last with how competitive things are getting.

aerospace has been hit hard lately, especially here in WA. Defense contracts drying up and commercial aviation still recovering. took me 4 months to find something after my layoff last year

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4 months?? That's terrifying. Did you have to do the job search requirements the whole time?

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yeah had to log 3 job contacts per week minimum, Washington ESD is pretty strict about that

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The aerospace industry is cyclical but this downturn feels different. Between supply chain issues, reduced defense spending, and companies over-hiring during COVID, we're seeing a perfect storm. Washington ESD data shows engineering unemployment has tripled since 2022.

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Tripled? That's insane. I thought engineering was supposed to be recession-proof.

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nothing is recession proof anymore unfortunately

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How does that work exactly? I've been calling the 800 number for days with no luck.

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They basically handle the calling for you and connect you when an agent is available. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.

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sounds too good to be true but at this point I'm desperate

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The whole system is rigged against skilled workers. They expect us to apply for minimum wage jobs just to meet the job search requirements. It's insulting.

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You can focus your search on suitable work within your field. Washington ESD allows this for professional positions.

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Tell that to the case worker who questioned why I wasn't applying to fast food jobs

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Same boat here - laid off from Northrop in January. The competition is fierce, seeing 400+ applicants for every engineering position. My UI benefits are keeping me afloat but barely covering my mortgage.

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400+ applicants is crazy! Are you having to expand your search outside aerospace?

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Yeah looking at tech companies, manufacturing, anywhere that needs engineering skills

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might have to consider relocating too, job market varies by state

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For context on the aerospace engineering unemployment issue: Major factors include defense budget cuts, commercial aviation slowdown, and consolidation in the industry. Boeing alone has cut over 20,000 jobs since 2020. The high unemployment isn't unique to Washington - it's nationwide but particularly severe here given our concentration of aerospace employers.

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That explains a lot. Wish I'd known this before I specialized in aerospace.

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hindsight is 20/20, focus on transferable skills now

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this is why I tell young people to avoid engineering. oversaturated field and no job security anymore

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That's an oversimplification. Engineering is still strong in many sectors, aerospace is just going through a rough patch.

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tell that to all the unemployed engineers filing for benefits

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every field has ups and downs, can't make career decisions based on temporary downturns

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Been out of work for 8 months now, maxed out my regular UI benefits and having to look into extended benefits. The Washington ESD system is so confusing - does anyone know if there are still pandemic-era extensions available?

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No, all pandemic extensions (PUA, PEUC) ended in 2021. You might qualify for Extended Benefits if Washington's unemployment rate triggers it, but that's rare.

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Great, so I'm basically on my own after 26 weeks. This is terrifying.

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look into retraining programs, WorkSource has some good options

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Update on that Claimyr service I mentioned - used it again yesterday to check on my job search requirement questions. Still works great for actually reaching Washington ESD agents when you need real answers.

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How much does it cost? Might be worth it if it actually works.

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I'd rather pay something than waste entire days trying to get through. The time savings alone is worth it.

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The networking events are brutal too. Everyone's desperate and it shows. Hard to make connections when everyone's competing for the same limited positions.

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I've stopped going to some of them. Too depressing seeing the same faces week after week.

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try online networking instead, less awkward and more opportunities

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Anyone else dealing with Washington ESD asking for additional documentation? They wanted 3 years of work history even though I only worked at Boeing for 2 years.

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They're required to verify your entire base period earnings, which covers 4 quarters. Provide whatever employment records you have.

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Makes sense I guess, just feels like they're looking for reasons to deny claims

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The mental health aspect is real too. Went from a $95k salary to $844 weekly UI benefits. The pay cut is devastating but the loss of identity hits harder.

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I totally understand this. Feel like I've lost my professional identity along with my job.

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consider counseling, many insurance plans still cover it even when unemployed

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WorkSource also has career counseling services that might help

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My husband's been out of aerospace work for 6 months now. The job search requirements are killing him - he's overqualified for most positions but can't find anything in his field. Washington ESD doesn't seem to understand the professional job market.

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He can request a job search plan modification if he's looking for professional work. Washington ESD allows this for skilled positions.

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Didn't know that was an option. How do you request that?

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Call and speak to a case worker, or better yet use something like Claimyr to get through faster

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The worst part is watching less qualified people get hired because they're cheaper. Companies are using this downturn to lower salary expectations across the board.

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Exactly! Seeing job postings that used to pay $80k now offering $60k for the same work.

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that's just market forces at work unfortunately

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Has anyone successfully transitioned to a different engineering field? Thinking about trying software or renewable energy.

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Made the jump to software engineering last year. Had to do some coding bootcamps but it's possible.

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Did you have to take a pay cut initially?

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About 15% cut but I'm already back to my previous salary level

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The age discrimination is real too. I'm 52 and seeing younger engineers get interviews while I can't even get callbacks. Washington ESD benefits won't last forever and I'm starting to panic.

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I'm only 34 and already worried about this. Can't imagine how much harder it is at 52.

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consider contract work, sometimes easier to get foot in door that way

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My UI claim got flagged for 'able and available' review because I mentioned in my job search log that I was being picky about positions. Had to explain that I was still looking for suitable work.

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Be careful how you word things in your job search documentation. Washington ESD can interpret selectivity as not being available for work.

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Lesson learned. Now I just document everything as 'actively seeking employment

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The unemployment rate statistics don't tell the whole story either. Lots of engineers have stopped looking or took underemployment that doesn't show up in the numbers.

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True, I know several people who took retail jobs just to have some income.

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or moved back in with family, that's not counted as unemployed either

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Anyone else having issues with Washington ESD's website? I keep getting error messages when trying to file my weekly claim.

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Yeah their system is glitchy. That's another reason I started using Claimyr - when I need to talk to someone about technical issues, I can actually reach an agent.

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Might have to try that, can't afford to miss filing my weekly claim

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The irony is that we're the ones who built the technology that's now replacing us. Automation in aerospace is eliminating the very jobs we created.

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That's a depressing way to think about it, but you're not wrong.

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adapt or die, that's always been the nature of engineering

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This hits so close to home. I'm also an aerospace engineer dealing with Washington ESD after getting laid off from a defense contractor in March. The whole "suitable work" conversation is frustrating - they want us to cast a wide net but don't understand that applying for $15/hour technician jobs when you have a specialized engineering degree isn't realistic. The mental toll of going from designing aircraft systems to filing unemployment claims is something I wasn't prepared for. At least the $844 weekly benefit helps, but like you said, it's not sustainable long-term. Have you considered looking into federal contracting positions? I've heard there might be some opportunities opening up with the infrastructure bill, though the competition is still brutal.

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