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Madison Allen

Who pays for unemployment benefits in Washington - employers or taxpayers?

I've been getting unemployment for about 6 weeks now and my brother keeps making comments about how I'm living off taxpayers. Is that true? I thought employers paid into the system for this stuff. I'm getting kind of tired of feeling guilty every time I file my weekly claim. Can someone explain how Washington ESD unemployment actually gets funded?

Your brother doesn't know what he's talking about. Unemployment insurance in Washington is funded by employer taxes, not general taxpayer funds. Employers pay into the UI trust fund based on their payroll and experience rating.

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Thank you! That makes me feel better. So when I worked, my employer was paying into this system for me?

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Exactly. Every employer in Washington pays unemployment taxes on wages up to a certain cap. It's like insurance - they pay premiums so benefits are available when workers need them.

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yeah employers pay but we all end up paying for it anyway through higher prices and stuff

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That's not really how it works. UI taxes are a small percentage of payroll and are factored into normal business costs, not something that directly raises consumer prices.

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whatever, money comes from somewhere

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To be more specific about funding - Washington employers pay unemployment taxes on the first $62,500 of each employee's annual wages. The tax rate varies by employer based on their history of layoffs (experience rating). Companies that lay off more workers pay higher rates.

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So if a company has a lot of layoffs they pay more? That seems fair.

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Right, it incentivizes employers to maintain stable employment. New employers start at a standard rate until they build up a claims history.

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This is why I hate the stigma around unemployment!! We literally worked and our employers paid into this system. It's not welfare, it's insurance that we earned the right to use.

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Exactly! I worked for 15 years before I needed unemployment. My employers were paying into this the whole time.

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Yeah I'm definitely going to explain this to my brother. I earned this benefit.

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does the state government put any money into unemployment or is it all from employers?

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Regular state unemployment benefits come entirely from employer taxes. The federal government only contributes during extended benefit periods or special programs.

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ok so normal unemployment is 100% employer funded, got it

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My company's HR manager explained this when they laid me off. She said our unemployment taxes go into a state trust fund that pays out benefits. Made me feel less bad about filing.

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That's good that they explained it. My company didn't say anything about how it worked.

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Yeah she was really good about explaining the process. Said it was part of the cost of doing business and not to feel guilty about using it.

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The trust fund thing is important to understand. During recessions when lots of people claim benefits, the fund can run low and the state might need to borrow from the federal government. But it's still employer-funded in principle.

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So what happens if the fund runs out completely?

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The state borrows from the feds and eventually pays it back through higher employer taxes. It's designed to be self-sustaining over time.

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still think we all pay for it one way or another but whatever makes you feel better

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That's like saying we all pay for car insurance because companies factor it into their costs. It's still insurance, not a handout.

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been on unemployment twice in my career and never knew the details about employer funding. thanks for the education everyone

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It's not really explained well anywhere. Most people think it comes from general taxes.

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Your brother needs to mind his own business. You paid into this system through your work just like you pay into Social Security. It's an earned benefit.

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That's a good comparison. I never thought of it like Social Security but it's similar.

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Exactly. Both are insurance programs you earn eligibility for by working and contributing.

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Washington ESD should do a better job explaining this stuff. So many people don't understand how unemployment insurance actually works.

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Agreed. There's too much misinformation about who pays for these benefits.

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Yeah I wish I had known this from the start. Would have saved me some anxiety.

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can confirm about the trust fund thing - I work in payroll and we pay UI taxes every quarter. It's just part of the cost of having employees, like workers comp or FICA taxes

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Thanks for the inside perspective! Makes me feel even better about using the benefits.

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Tell your brother that unemployment insurance is no different from any other insurance. Employers pay premiums (UI taxes) and workers file claims when they need benefits. It's how insurance works.

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Perfect way to explain it. I'm definitely using that comparison.

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the stigma around unemployment benefits is ridiculous. people act like you're stealing money when you're literally using insurance you earned through working

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Right? I worked 20+ years before I ever needed unemployment. I more than earned the right to use it.

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The stigma is exactly what was bothering me. Good to know I'm not alone in feeling this way.

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Bottom line - you earned these benefits through your work history. Don't let anyone make you feel bad about using unemployment insurance when you need it.

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Thanks everyone for explaining this so clearly. I feel much better about my situation now.

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Good! That's what these benefits are for - to help workers during temporary unemployment.

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wish more people understood how unemployment funding actually works. would cut down on a lot of the judgment and misinformation

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Definitely sharing this info with friends and family. It's important for people to know.

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OP you should feel proud of the fact that you're navigating the system and filing your weekly claims properly. That's not always easy with Washington ESD's website and requirements.

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Thank you! The weekly filing process was confusing at first but I'm getting the hang of it.

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It definitely has a learning curve. You're doing everything right by staying on top of it.

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