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When do you not get unemployment benefits in Washington - denied twice need advice

I've been denied unemployment benefits twice now and I'm trying to understand when Washington ESD actually approves claims. First time I got fired for attendance issues (was late a few times due to childcare problems) and they said it was misconduct. Second time I quit my retail job because my manager was harassing me and creating a hostile work environment, but Washington ESD said I didn't have good cause to quit. Are there any situations where you actually CAN'T get unemployment? I feel like they deny everyone. Has anyone else dealt with multiple denials?

Washington ESD has specific disqualification rules. You can't get UI benefits if you were fired for misconduct, quit without good cause, aren't able and available for work, or don't meet work search requirements. For misconduct, they look at whether you willfully violated company policy. For quitting, you need to prove good cause like unsafe working conditions or harassment with documentation.

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I had documentation of the harassment but they still denied me. Do I need a lawyer or something?

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You can appeal the decision. You have 30 days from the notice date to file an appeal with Washington ESD. For harassment claims, you typically need written complaints to HR, witness statements, or other proof that shows you had good cause to quit.

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same thing happened to me! got denied for misconduct even though I was never written up or anything. the system is rigged against workers

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Right?? It's so frustrating. Did you appeal or just give up?

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I tried calling Washington ESD like 50 times to get more info but could never get through to anyone

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There are several automatic disqualifications for unemployment benefits in Washington State. You can't get benefits if you: 1) Were fired for gross misconduct 2) Quit without good cause 3) Refuse suitable work 4) Aren't actively seeking work 5) Are unavailable for work 6) Don't register with WorkSource. The key is understanding what constitutes 'misconduct' vs poor performance.

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what counts as gross misconduct vs regular misconduct? is there a difference for washington esd?

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Gross misconduct includes things like theft, violence, or criminal activity. Regular misconduct is violating company policy but not criminal. Both can disqualify you but gross misconduct has longer penalties.

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Being late a few times due to childcare shouldn't be gross misconduct then. Maybe I have a chance on appeal?

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ugh the washington esd system is so broken. they make it impossible to get benefits even when you deserve them. took me 6 months to get my claim approved

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6 months?! How did you survive without income for that long?

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credit cards and borrowing money from family. it was awful. but i kept appealing and eventually won

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For harassment claims, Washington ESD wants to see that you made reasonable efforts to resolve the situation before quitting. Did you file complaints with HR? Document incidents? Try to transfer departments? If you just quit without following company procedures first, they often deny the claim.

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I complained to HR twice and they did nothing. I have emails showing I reported it. Doesn't that count?

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That should definitely count as good cause. You might want to request a hearing if you haven't already. Bring all your documentation - emails, witness statements, anything that shows the harassment and your attempts to resolve it.

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You also can't get unemployment if you're not a US citizen or don't have work authorization. Or if you haven't worked enough hours in your base period. Washington ESD looks at the first four of the last five completed quarters before you filed.

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I'm a citizen and worked full time for over a year at both jobs so that's not the issue

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how many hours do you need to qualify? i only worked part time

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You need to have earned at least $7,800 in your base period and worked in at least two quarters. There's also a formula for weekly benefit amounts based on your earnings.

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The job search requirement trips up a lot of people too. You have to make at least 3 job contacts per week and keep a log. If you're not doing that or not able to work immediately, they'll deny your weekly claims.

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I've been doing the job searches every week. It's the initial eligibility they're denying me on

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make sure you're using worksource wa for some of your job searches. washington esd likes to see that

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Honestly, with two denials you really need to talk to someone at Washington ESD to understand exactly why they're denying you. The automated system doesn't give good explanations. I used Claimyr again recently when I had questions about my job search requirements and actually got helpful info from an agent.

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Another common disqualification is if you're receiving other benefits like workers compensation or disability. Washington ESD will reduce or deny unemployment benefits if you're getting payments from other programs. Also if you're in school full-time, that can affect your availability for work.

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Not getting any other benefits and not in school. Just unemployed and stressed

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being stressed about money while dealing with washington esd bureaucracy is the worst. hang in there

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If you get fired for attendance, Washington ESD looks at whether it was within your control. Medical issues, transportation problems, or childcare emergencies might not be misconduct if you communicated with your employer. Did you let them know about your childcare situation?

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I told my supervisor every time but they said it didn't matter. Company policy was 3 lates and you're out

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That might not be misconduct then, especially if you were dealing with childcare emergencies. Definitely worth appealing if you documented the reasons for being late.

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washington esd denied me for quitting too but i won on appeal. you have to prove constructive discharge - that working conditions were so bad any reasonable person would quit. harassment definitely qualifies if you have evidence

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How long did the appeal take? I need money soon

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mine took about 6 weeks from filing to hearing. you can request expedited processing if you're facing eviction or utilities shutoff

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Don't give up! I was denied initially but got approved after providing more documentation. Washington ESD makes mistakes all the time. The key is being persistent and having good records of everything.

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Thanks for the encouragement. I'm going to gather all my documentation and file appeals for both denials

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good luck! the system sucks but sometimes persistence pays off

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You can also be disqualified if you were fired for drug/alcohol use, dishonesty, or violating safety rules. But simple attendance issues due to legitimate reasons usually aren't misconduct. Sounds like you have grounds for appeal on both claims.

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None of those apply to me. Just a single mom trying to juggle work and childcare

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that's so unfair. childcare is a legitimate issue and employers should be understanding

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Make sure when you appeal that you request a hearing if possible. Phone hearings are usually faster than in-person. Bring witnesses if you have them - coworkers who saw the harassment or can testify about your work performance.

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I have a coworker who witnessed some of the harassment. Should I ask her to be a witness?

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Absolutely! Witness testimony can be really powerful in unemployment hearings. Make sure she's prepared to speak specifically about what she saw.

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One more thing - if you do get approved after appeal, Washington ESD will pay you retroactively from your original filing date. So don't worry about missing out on benefits while the appeal is pending.

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That's good to know! I was worried I'd lose weeks of benefits. Going to file those appeals tomorrow

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make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even while appealing. you can't get retroactive pay if you don't file them

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I went through something similar with Washington ESD - got denied twice and felt like giving up. But I learned that the initial reviewers often make quick decisions without looking at all the details. For your attendance case, document everything about your childcare situation - daycare closures, sick child days, babysitter cancellations, etc. For the harassment case, gather all your HR complaints, emails, and any witnesses. The appeals process is where you can actually present your full story to someone who will listen. It took me 3 months but I eventually got approved. Don't let them discourage you - single parents face legitimate challenges that should be considered.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm documenting everything now - keeping records of daycare closures, my child's sick days, and all the times I communicated with my supervisor about childcare issues. It's encouraging to hear that someone else went through multiple denials and still got approved. Did you use a lawyer for your appeal or represent yourself? I'm trying to decide if I need professional help or if I can handle it on my own with all this documentation.

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I represented myself for both appeals and it worked out fine. The key is being organized and sticking to the facts. For the hearing, I made a timeline of events, brought printed copies of all my documentation, and practiced explaining my situation clearly. The judge was actually pretty understanding once I could tell the whole story instead of just filling out forms. If your case is straightforward like attendance due to childcare emergencies, you probably don't need a lawyer. Just make sure you understand the legal standard - for attendance, they need to prove it was willful misconduct, not just violating policy for legitimate reasons.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - got denied for "voluntary quit without good cause" even though I left because of safety concerns at my warehouse job. It's so frustrating how Washington ESD seems to automatically side with employers. I'm planning to appeal but worried about the process. Has anyone had success appealing safety-related quits? I have photos of the unsafe conditions and emails to my supervisor about the hazards, but I'm not sure if that's enough documentation for Washington ESD to approve my claim.

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Safety concerns are definitely considered good cause for quitting in Washington! The key is showing you tried to get the employer to fix the unsafe conditions first. Your photos and emails to supervisors are exactly the kind of documentation you need. Make sure you can prove: 1) The conditions were genuinely unsafe/hazardous, 2) You reported them to management, 3) The employer failed to address the safety issues, and 4) A reasonable person would have quit under those circumstances. I've seen people win appeals for safety-related quits when they have solid documentation like yours. The appeals examiner will look at whether you exhausted reasonable options before quitting.

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