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Dylan Campbell

What is unemployment tax number Washington ESD keeps asking for?

I'm filling out some forms for Washington ESD and they keep asking for an "unemployment tax number" but I have no idea what this is. Is this something my employer should have given me? I've been working at a restaurant for 2 years and never heard of this before. My boss doesn't seem to know either when I asked. Is this the same as my social security number or something else entirely? Really confused here and don't want to mess up my application.

The unemployment tax number is your employer's account number with Washington ESD, not something you as an employee would have. It's also called the UBI number (Unified Business Identifier). Your employer pays unemployment taxes quarterly and has this number assigned to their business. You shouldn't need to provide this for a regular UI claim.

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Oh that makes more sense! So I don't need to worry about finding this number myself?

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Exactly right. If Washington ESD needs your employer's tax information, they'll get it directly from their system using your employer's name and address.

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wait im confused too, is this different from the EIN number? my old job had an EIN but idk if thats the same thing

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EIN is federal, UBI/unemployment tax number is state-specific. They're different numbers but serve similar purposes for tax reporting.

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gotcha thanks, this unemployment stuff is so confusing with all the different numbers

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How does that work exactly? Do they just call and wait for you?

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That actually sounds pretty useful. The Washington ESD phone system is impossible to get through normally.

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Are you sure you're looking at the right form? I've filed for unemployment twice and never had to provide any employer tax numbers. Maybe you're filling out something for your employer instead of your own claim?

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I'm looking at what I thought was the regular unemployment application on the Washington ESD website. Maybe I clicked on the wrong link?

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Go to esd.wa.gov and look for 'File for Unemployment Benefits' - that's the regular claimant application. The employer stuff is in a different section.

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UGH the Washington ESD website is such a mess! I spent 3 hours trying to figure out which forms I needed when I got laid off last month. Everything looks the same and half the links don't work properly.

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Tell me about it. I accidentally submitted the wrong form twice before figuring out which one was actually for claimants.

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Exactly! And then when you try to call to ask questions, good luck getting through to anyone who can actually help.

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Just to clarify - there are different numbers depending on what you're doing: 1) SSN for your personal claim, 2) UBI number for employer accounts, 3) EIN for federal tax purposes, 4) Sometimes they ask for your previous claim number if you've filed before. Make sure you're on the right page for what you're trying to do.

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This is really helpful, thank you. I think I was definitely on the wrong page then.

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Yeah I made this same mistake. The employer section and claimant section look way too similar on their website.

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if your restaurant boss doesnt know about unemployment tax numbers thats kind of a red flag... all employers are supposed to pay into the unemployment system for their employees

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Oh no, should I be worried about this? The restaurant seems legit and I get paystubs with taxes taken out.

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Don't panic. Small business owners often don't know the technical details but their accountants or payroll companies handle it. If you're getting proper paystubs with state taxes, you're probably fine.

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yeah thats true, lots of small businesses use payroll companies that handle all that stuff behind the scenes

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I work in HR and can confirm - the unemployment tax number/UBI is something only employers need to know. We use it when we report new hires, quarterly wages, and respond to unemployment claims. Regular employees never need this number for anything.

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Thank you! That's really reassuring to hear from someone who actually works with this stuff.

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Good to have someone with actual HR experience chime in. Too much misinformation floating around about unemployment stuff.

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Maybe try using the 'Contact Us' feature on the Washington ESD website? Though honestly I tried that once and never got a response. The Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier might be worth trying if you need to talk to someone quickly.

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I used Claimyr last week when I had questions about my weekly claim. Got through to an agent in like 20 minutes instead of the usual 2+ hour wait times.

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That's amazing. I've literally given up trying to call Washington ESD because of how long the hold times are.

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Just wanted to add - if you're filing a new claim, you'll need your employer's business name and address, but not their tax numbers. Washington ESD can look up all that backend stuff themselves once you provide the basic employer info.

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Perfect, that's exactly what I needed to know. I have all the basic info like business name and address.

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Yep, I just filed last month and that's all they asked for. Pretty straightforward once you're on the right form.

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honestly the whole washington unemployment system is set up to confuse people on purpose. ive been trying to get my claim sorted for weeks and every time i call they tell me something different

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I feel you. It's like they designed it to be as frustrating as possible.

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That's why services like Claimyr exist I guess. People are so fed up with trying to navigate the system themselves.

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For what it's worth, I had a similar confusion when I first filed. Turned out I was looking at the employer portal instead of the claimant section. Easy mistake to make since the website navigation isn't great.

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Yeah I think that's exactly what happened to me. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Same thing happened to me. Spent an hour filling out the wrong form before I realized my mistake.

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Quick tip - bookmark the correct claimant login page once you find it. The Washington ESD site has so many similar-looking pages it's easy to end up in the wrong place.

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Great idea, I'll definitely do that once I get to the right page.

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This is solid advice. I kept ending up on random pages trying to navigate their site.

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I just went through this exact same thing last week! Turns out I was accidentally on the employer section of the website instead of the regular unemployment claim form. The unemployment tax number/UBI is only something your employer needs to know - you don't need to provide it when filing your claim. Just go to the main Washington ESD page and look for the "File for Unemployment Benefits" link to get to the right form. You'll only need basic info like your SSN, employer name, and work history.

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This is super helpful! I was definitely on the wrong page then. It's crazy how similar the employer and claimant sections look on their website. Thanks for clarifying what info I actually need - I was stressing out thinking I needed to track down all these tax numbers from my boss.

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I'm having a similar issue but with a different question - when I try to file my claim, it's asking for my "previous employer's federal ID number" on one of the forms. Is this the same as the EIN number that someone mentioned earlier? I worked for a small landscaping company and I'm not sure they'd even know what I'm talking about if I ask them. Should I just leave it blank or is there another way to find this information?

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Yes, the "federal ID number" is the same as the EIN (Employer Identification Number). You can actually look this up yourself without bothering your employer - try searching the IRS website's EIN lookup tool, or sometimes you can find it on old pay stubs or tax documents like your W-2 from that job. If you can't find it anywhere, you can usually leave it blank and provide just the employer's business name and address - Washington ESD can match it up in their system.

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I had this exact same confusion when I first applied! You definitely don't need the unemployment tax number as an employee - that's your employer's UBI number that they use for their quarterly tax filings. For a regular unemployment claim, you just need your own info (SSN, work history, etc.) and basic employer details like business name and address. Washington ESD can look up all the backend tax stuff themselves. Make sure you're on the claimant section of their website, not the employer portal - they look really similar and it's easy to accidentally end up on the wrong form asking for employer-specific information you wouldn't have.

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been going in circles on their website for hours trying to figure out what I was missing. It's such a relief to know I don't actually need to hunt down my employer's tax numbers. The fact that the employer and claimant sections look so similar is honestly terrible design - no wonder so many people get confused. Thanks for explaining it so clearly!

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I just went through this same confusion a few months ago when I first filed! You definitely don't need your employer's unemployment tax number (UBI number) for your personal claim - that's strictly for employers when they file their quarterly reports with the state. It sounds like you might have accidentally ended up on the employer portal section of the Washington ESD website, which happens to a lot of people since the navigation isn't great. For a regular unemployment claim, you only need your SSN, basic employer info (name, address), and your work history. Just make sure you're on the right page by going directly to esd.wa.gov and clicking "File for Unemployment Benefits" - that'll take you to the actual claimant application where you won't see any requests for employer tax numbers.

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