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What happens if your Washington ESD unemployment claim gets denied?

My unemployment claim with Washington ESD just got denied and I'm freaking out. I got a letter saying I'm disqualified for 'leaving work without good cause' but I quit because my boss was making me work in unsafe conditions. The letter mentions something about appeals but I don't understand what happens next. Do I lose all my benefits permanently? Can I still file weekly claims while I figure this out? I've been counting on this money to pay rent and I'm really scared about what comes next.

First, don't panic! A denial isn't the end of the road. You have the right to appeal this decision within 30 days of the denial letter date. The appeal process allows you to present your case and explain why you believe you should qualify for benefits. You'll need to gather documentation about the unsafe working conditions you mentioned.

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Thank you! Do I need to stop filing my weekly claims while I appeal or should I keep doing them?

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Keep filing your weekly claims! If you win your appeal, you'll get backpay for all the weeks you filed. If you stop filing, you could lose those weeks permanently.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Washington ESD denied my claim initially, but I appealed and won. The key is having good documentation. For unsafe working conditions, you'll want any emails, photos, witness statements, or records of complaints you made to your employer or safety agencies.

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How long did your appeal take? I'm worried about going weeks without any income.

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Mine took about 6 weeks from filing the appeal to getting the hearing decision. But once I won, I got all the backpay from when I first filed.

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Been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my own appeal and their phone lines are impossible. Spent literally hours on hold just to get disconnected. Found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me through to a real person at Washington ESD in under 30 minutes. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Might be worth checking out if you need to talk to someone about your appeal options.

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How does that work? Do they charge a lot?

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They don't mention pricing upfront but honestly getting through to Washington ESD was worth whatever it cost. I was able to get my appeal questions answered directly.

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I'll definitely look into this. I've been trying to call Washington ESD all week with no luck.

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The appeal process isn't as scary as it sounds. You'll get a hearing scheduled with an administrative law judge where you can tell your side of the story. The judge will listen to both you and your former employer (if they participate) and make a decision based on the facts.

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Will my former employer definitely participate? I'm nervous about facing them in a hearing.

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Not always. Many employers don't bother showing up to hearings. Even if they do, the judge is neutral and just wants to hear the facts about your situation.

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ugh the washington esd system is so messed up... they deny people for the dumbest reasons and then make you jump through hoops to prove you deserve benefits. it's ridiculous that they put the burden on workers to prove unsafe conditions when employers should be the ones proving they provided a safe workplace!!

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I understand the frustration, but the appeal process does work. Many people successfully overturn denials when they have good cause for leaving work.

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maybe but it shouldn't take months and a hearing just to get benefits you're entitled to...

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What specific unsafe conditions were you dealing with? That makes a big difference in how strong your appeal case will be. Washington ESD recognizes several types of good cause for leaving work, including unsafe working conditions.

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My supervisor was making us work with broken safety equipment and ignored multiple complaints about it. I have some emails where I complained but they never responded.

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Those emails will be crucial evidence! Print them out and include them with your appeal. Also check if you filed any complaints with L&I or OSHA - those would strengthen your case significantly.

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Same thing happened to me but I was too scared to appeal and just gave up. Biggest mistake ever - I later found out I probably would have won since I had good cause. Don't make my mistake, definitely file that appeal!

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That's what I'm afraid of! I don't want to give up too easily but I also don't know if I have a strong enough case.

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If you truly had unsafe working conditions and can document it, you have a case. The worst that happens is you lose the appeal and you're in the same position you're in now.

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Just to add - when you file your appeal, be very specific about the unsafe conditions and how you tried to resolve them with your employer first. Washington ESD wants to see that you made a good faith effort to address the problems before quitting.

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I did try to resolve it! I complained to my supervisor and HR multiple times over 3 months before I finally quit.

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Perfect! Document all those attempts - dates, who you talked to, what their responses were. That shows you didn't just quit impulsively.

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Also important - even if you lose the initial appeal hearing, you can appeal that decision to the Board of Appeals. It's another layer of protection, though most cases are resolved at the first hearing level.

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Good to know there are multiple chances. I'm feeling a bit more hopeful about this whole process.

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I work in HR and see these cases sometimes. Unsafe working conditions can definitely be good cause if you documented your concerns and gave your employer a reasonable chance to fix them. The key is showing you didn't have any other reasonable alternative but to quit.

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That makes sense. I really didn't want to quit but I felt like I didn't have a choice after nothing changed for months.

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That's exactly the kind of situation where appeals often succeed. You tried to work with your employer but they didn't address legitimate safety concerns.

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Quick question - did you file for unemployment right after you quit or did you wait? Sometimes there's issues if you delay filing but I'm not sure how that affects appeals.

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I filed about 2 weeks after I quit. I was hoping to find another job quickly but nothing panned out.

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Two weeks isn't a significant delay. Washington ESD understands that people sometimes try to find work first before filing for benefits.

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For what it's worth, I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and it really did help me get through to Washington ESD when I needed to ask about my appeal timeline. Much better than sitting on hold for hours.

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I'm definitely going to try that. I have so many questions about the appeal process and I can't get answers anywhere.

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Don't forget you might be eligible for other assistance while your appeal is pending. Food assistance, rental help, etc. Check with DSHS or local community organizations.

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Good point, I hadn't thought about other assistance programs. I'll look into those while I wait for the appeal.

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One more tip - when you write your appeal letter, stick to the facts and avoid getting emotional or angry, even if you're frustrated. Present your case professionally and let the evidence speak for itself.

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Thanks for that advice. I am pretty angry about the whole situation but I'll try to keep it factual.

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has anyone here actually won an appeal for unsafe working conditions? seems like washington esd just sides with employers most of the time...

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I did! Won my appeal for unsafe conditions. Had good documentation though - emails, photos, witness statements. It's definitely possible if you have evidence.

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My neighbor won his appeal last year for the same reason. Washington ESD does approve appeals when there's legitimate good cause.

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Remember the 30-day deadline is firm! Don't wait thinking about it - file that appeal as soon as possible. You can always gather more evidence later, but you can't file an appeal after the deadline passes.

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Definitely filing this week. This thread has been so helpful, thank you everyone!

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Good luck with your appeal! Keep us posted on how it goes. It sounds like you have a legitimate case with the unsafe working conditions and your attempts to resolve them.

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I will! Feeling much more confident about this whole process now. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and advice.

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Just want to echo what others said about using Claimyr if you need to reach Washington ESD. I was skeptical at first but it really does work better than trying to call directly. Worth it when you need answers about important stuff like appeals.

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I'm convinced! Going to try it tomorrow to get some of my appeal questions answered directly from Washington ESD.

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