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What does qualifying separation determination mean for unemployment in Washington ESD?

I got a letter from Washington ESD about my unemployment claim and it mentions something called a 'qualifying separation determination' but I have no idea what this means. My claim has been pending for almost 2 weeks now and I'm starting to panic. I was laid off from my retail job back in December due to company downsizing but now they're asking for all this documentation about why I left. Did anyone else get one of these? What exactly are they determining and how long does this process take? I'm worried they're going to deny my benefits even though I didn't do anything wrong.

A qualifying separation determination is basically Washington ESD reviewing whether you left your job for a valid reason that makes you eligible for unemployment benefits. Since you were laid off due to downsizing, that should be a qualifying separation. They just need to verify the circumstances with your employer.

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Thanks for explaining! Do you know how long this review usually takes? I'm getting really anxious about it.

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Usually 2-4 weeks depending on how quickly your employer responds to their inquiry. Layoffs are generally pretty straightforward compared to other separation types.

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omg yes i got the same thing!! mine took like 3 weeks but it was approved. they just had to make sure i didnt quit or get fired for misconduct. since you were laid off you should be fine

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That's such a relief to hear! I was worried I did something wrong in my application.

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The waiting is the worst part honestly. But layoffs are usually no problem for approval.

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I've been through this process multiple times unfortunately. The qualifying separation determination examines whether your job separation meets Washington ESD's criteria for benefit eligibility. For layoffs, they typically just need to confirm the reason with your employer and verify you didn't refuse suitable work or have performance issues. Keep checking your SecureAccess Washington account for updates.

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I check my account like 10 times a day! Still shows 'determination in progress' but good to know layoffs are usually straightforward.

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I was in the same boat last month. The waiting is torture but if you were genuinely laid off you'll be fine.

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The Washington ESD determination process is SO frustrating! They make it sound scary but really they're just doing their due diligence. For voluntary quits or misconduct terminations it's more complicated, but layoffs are pretty much automatic approvals once they verify with the employer.

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Yeah the letter definitely made it sound more serious than it apparently is. Thanks for the reassurance!

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The whole system is designed to make you anxious. Most layoff cases get approved without any issues.

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been there done that with the determination process. what they're really looking at is whether you had good cause for separation from work. layoffs = good cause. firing for misconduct = not good cause. quitting without good reason = not good cause. you should be golden

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That makes so much sense when you put it that way. I was overthinking it.

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Exactly right. The determination is just their formal way of categorizing your separation type for eligibility purposes.

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I work in HR and deal with these Washington ESD inquiries all the time. When someone files for unemployment after a layoff, we get a form asking to verify the separation reason and dates. It's pretty routine paperwork for us. Your employer probably already responded and you're just waiting for Washington ESD to process it.

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That's really helpful to know! I was wondering what was happening on the employer side of things.

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How long does it typically take employers to respond to those forms?

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Most employers respond within a few days to a week. The delay is usually on Washington ESD's side processing everything.

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ugh the determination letters are written so confusingly! i thought i was in trouble too when i got mine. turns out they approved me and i had been worrying for nothing. the whole system needs better communication

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Right?? The language is so formal and scary sounding. Glad I'm not the only one who panicked.

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They really could make these letters more user-friendly. Half the anxiety is just from the confusing wording.

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Pro tip: while you're waiting for the determination, make sure you're still filing your weekly claims! Even if your claim is pending, you need to keep certifying or you could lose those weeks.

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Yes I've been doing that! Someone on here told me that before. Good reminder though.

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This is super important advice. I know people who missed weeks because they thought they didn't need to file while pending.

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The determination process used to be faster pre-COVID but now everything takes longer. Just be patient, layoffs almost always get approved eventually. The system is just backed up.

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Good to know it's not just me experiencing delays. Patience is hard when bills are due though!

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Yeah the whole system is slower now but they do eventually get through everything.

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I had a qualifying separation determination last year and it was approved after about 3 weeks. They sent me a letter explaining their decision and then my benefits started. Since yours is for a layoff you really shouldn't worry.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! It's reassuring to hear from people who've been through it.

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Same experience here. The waiting is the hardest part but layoff determinations are usually pretty routine.

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Just to add some technical detail: Washington ESD looks at factors like whether you were available for work, actively seeking employment, and if the separation was through no fault of your own. Layoffs clearly meet the 'no fault of your own' criteria, so you're in good shape.

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That's really helpful context. I definitely didn't choose to be laid off so that makes sense.

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The 'no fault of your own' standard is key for unemployment eligibility. Layoffs are textbook cases of this.

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I'm definitely considering it if this drags on much longer. The uncertainty is killing me.

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hang in there! my determination took forever but got approved. layoffs are like the easiest case for washington esd to approve. you got this!

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Thank you for the encouragement! This thread has made me feel so much better about the whole situation.

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Final thought: once your qualifying separation determination is approved, your benefits should start flowing pretty quickly. Make sure your direct deposit info is set up correctly in your account so there are no delays on the payment side.

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Good reminder! I double-checked and my bank info looks correct. Really hoping this gets resolved soon.

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Yeah payment setup issues can cause delays even after approval. Always good to verify that stuff ahead of time.

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This whole thread is making me feel better about my own determination that's pending. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences with this process!

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Right?? I felt so alone in this until I posted here. Good luck with your determination too!

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thats what this community is for! we've all been through the washington esd stress

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I think I'm going to try this if I don't hear something by next week. Thanks for the recommendation!

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Multiple people mentioning this service so it must actually work. Might be worth looking into.

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Update us when you hear back OP! Always curious how these determination cases turn out, especially for layoffs.

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Definitely will! This community has been so helpful and supportive. I'll post an update once I get my decision.

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Best of luck with your determination! Based on what you've described, you should have a positive outcome. The Washington ESD system may be slow but they do get it right most of the time, especially for clear-cut layoff situations like yours.

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Thank you so much for all your help and advice throughout this thread. I feel much more confident about the whole process now!

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This thread is gold for anyone going through the determination process. Bookmarking for future reference!

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Agreed! Really comprehensive discussion of what the determination process actually involves.

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I went through this exact same process last year after being laid off from my office job. The "qualifying separation determination" basically means Washington ESD is verifying that your job separation qualifies you for benefits. Since you were laid off due to company downsizing (not fired for cause or voluntarily quit), you should definitely be approved. The process took about 3 weeks for me, but that was during a less busy time. Just keep filing your weekly claims while you wait - don't stop doing that even though it's pending! The anxiety is real but layoffs are pretty much the most straightforward approvals they handle.

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been so stressed about this but hearing from someone who went through the same situation makes me feel so much better. I'll definitely keep filing my weekly claims - thanks for that reminder. It's good to know that 3 weeks is pretty normal for the timeline. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It really helps to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. I've been checking my account obsessively but I'll try to be more patient knowing that 3 weeks is normal. The reminder about continuing to file weekly claims is super important too - I almost forgot to do that this week because I was so focused on the determination. Really appreciate the reassurance that layoffs are straightforward approvals!

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