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Washington ESD unemployment insurance program related to social security and medicaid - how do they work together?

I'm trying to understand how my unemployment benefits from Washington ESD connect to other programs like social security and medicaid. My mom gets social security and I'm wondering if there's any overlap or if they affect each other. Also heard something about medicaid being available when you're unemployed but not sure how that works with Washington ESD claims. Can someone explain how these programs relate to each other? I'm 28 and just filed my first UI claim last month.

These are all separate federal and state programs but they can interact in important ways. Social Security is federal retirement/disability benefits, Medicaid is healthcare coverage for low-income folks, and Washington ESD handles unemployment insurance for our state. Your unemployment benefits won't affect your mom's social security at all - completely different systems.

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That's a relief about not affecting my mom's benefits. What about the medicaid part though?

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For Medicaid, your unemployment income does count toward income limits, but many people receiving UI benefits still qualify because the income thresholds are pretty reasonable in Washington state.

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I was in a similar situation last year. When I lost my job and filed with Washington ESD, I also applied for Apple Health (that's what we call Medicaid here). The unemployment benefits I got were considered income but I still qualified because I was under the income limit for a single person.

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How do you apply for Apple Health? Do I need to report my unemployment benefits to them?

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Yes you report your UI benefits as income when you apply. You can apply online at wahealthplanfinder.org - it's pretty straightforward.

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Just make sure you update them if your unemployment benefits change or if you get a job. They need to know about income changes.

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Never heard of that but might be worth trying. The Washington ESD phone lines are impossible to get through on.

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The programs are related in that they're all part of the social safety net but administered differently. Social Security Administration handles SS, Washington State handles Apple Health/Medicaid enrollment, and Washington ESD handles unemployment. They share some information but you typically need to apply for each separately.

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So I should apply for Apple Health separately from my unemployment claim?

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Exactly. Your unemployment claim is just for UI benefits. Health coverage is a separate application entirely.

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one thing to watch out for - if you're getting social security disability benefits yourself (not your mom), that can affect your ability to collect unemployment because you have to be able and available for work to get UI benefits

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Good point but I'm not on disability, just regular unemployment after getting laid off.

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Right, that's an important distinction. Regular Social Security retirement benefits don't conflict with unemployment, but disability benefits can because of the work requirements.

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Also want to mention that having Apple Health while unemployed was a huge help for me. Doctor visits and prescriptions were covered, which was one less thing to worry about while job hunting. Definitely worth applying if you think you might qualify.

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That does sound helpful. I've been putting off a dentist appointment because I lost my employer health insurance.

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Apple Health covers dental too, though you might have to find a dentist that accepts it. But it's better than paying out of pocket!

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The programs are designed to work together as a safety net. People often use multiple programs at once - like unemployment benefits for income replacement and Medicaid for health coverage. Nothing wrong with using what you're eligible for.

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Thanks, that makes me feel better about applying for health coverage too.

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Exactly, these programs exist to help people get back on their feet. Use them if you qualify!

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I tried calling Washington ESD about this same question and could never get through. The automated system just kept hanging up on me after an hour of waiting. It's ridiculous how hard it is to reach them.

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That's exactly why I tried Claimyr - got tired of wasting entire days trying to reach Washington ESD. Worked great for me.

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I might have to check that out. This is getting frustrating.

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Quick clarification on income reporting - when you apply for Apple Health, you'll report your weekly unemployment benefit amount times 4 to estimate monthly income. So if you're getting $500/week in UI benefits, report about $2000/month as unemployment income.

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That's helpful, I wasn't sure how to calculate that. My weekly benefit amount is $445 so that would be around $1780/month.

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Right, and remember that's gross income before any taxes withheld from your unemployment benefits.

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Don't forget that unemployment benefits are taxable income for federal taxes, but so is social security in some cases. Medicaid eligibility looks at your current income situation, not what you made last year.

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Good point about taxes. I elected to have taxes withheld from my unemployment benefits.

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Smart move, saves you from owing a bunch at tax time.

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Another connection between the programs - if you're collecting unemployment benefits, you might also be eligible for food assistance (SNAP/EBT). That's administered by DSHS in Washington state, separate from Washington ESD but they coordinate information.

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I hadn't thought about food assistance. Is that a separate application too?

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Yes, you'd apply through Washington Connection or at a DSHS office. They'll ask about your unemployment benefits as part of the application.

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The nice thing is once you're in the system for one program, they can often fast-track applications for others.

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been on unemployment twice and apple health helps so much with the stress of not having employer insurance. the programs really do work together to help you get through tough times

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That's reassuring to hear from someone who's been through it before.

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One more thing - when you do get a new job, make sure you report the income change to Apple Health right away. They need to know when your unemployment benefits end and regular income starts.

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I'll make a note of that for when I find something. Thanks for all the advice everyone!

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You're welcome! Good luck with the job search.

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr thing - I used it again this week to ask Washington ESD about job search requirements and got through in like 10 minutes. Way better than the hours I used to spend on hold.

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Okay you've convinced me, I'm going to try it. The regular phone system is just not working for me.

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I thought the same thing at first but my time is worth something too. Check out their demo video and see what you think.

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To summarize the connections: Social Security and unemployment benefits don't affect each other (unless it's disability benefits), Apple Health/Medicaid considers your unemployment income but you can still qualify, and all these programs are designed to work together as a safety net during unemployment.

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Perfect summary, thank you. I feel like I understand the big picture now.

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This thread has been really helpful. I'm in a similar situation and didn't know about Apple Health.

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Also worth mentioning that some employers offer COBRA health insurance continuation, but it's usually way more expensive than Apple Health if you qualify for Medicaid. Always worth checking Apple Health first.

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My employer did offer COBRA but it was like $600/month. Definitely looking into Apple Health instead.

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Yeah, COBRA is usually really expensive. Apple Health is much better if you qualify.

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these programs saved my family when I lost my job in 2023. unemployment from washington esd, apple health for medical, and even got some food assistance. don't be too proud to use what's available

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Thanks for sharing that. It helps to hear from people who've actually used these programs successfully.

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Absolutely, that's what they're there for. Use them when you need them.

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The key thing is that these are all temporary assistance programs (except Social Security for retirement). The goal is to help you get back to work and self-sufficient. Washington ESD even requires job search activities to keep getting benefits.

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Right, I'm doing my required job search activities through WorkSourceWA. Still learning that system too.

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WorkSourceWA can be confusing at first but it gets easier. Make sure you're logging your job search activities correctly.

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Quick tip - if you're having trouble with any of these applications or have questions, many public libraries have staff who can help with online applications for benefits programs. Free assistance if you need it.

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That's a great tip! I didn't know libraries offered that kind of help.

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Libraries are amazing resources for this stuff. They help people navigate all kinds of government programs.

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One last plug for Claimyr - when I had questions about how my part-time work would affect my unemployment benefits, I used their service to reach Washington ESD and got a clear answer in minutes instead of days of trying to call. Really worth it when you need specific information about your claim.

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I bookmarked their site. If I can't get through to Washington ESD the regular way, I'll definitely try it.

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Same here, going to keep it as a backup option. Thanks for mentioning it.

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