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Darcy Moore

Is unemployment social security benefits in Washington ESD system?

I'm really confused about something and hoping someone can clear this up for me. I just filed my first unemployment claim with Washington ESD and my mom keeps telling me that unemployment is part of social security. But when I look at my claim online it's all through the ESD website and SecureAccess Washington, not anything related to SSA. Are unemployment benefits actually connected to social security or are they completely separate? I'm worried I'm missing something important about how this all works.

No, unemployment insurance (UI) and Social Security are completely separate programs. Washington ESD handles unemployment benefits, while the Social Security Administration handles retirement, disability, and survivor benefits. Your unemployment claim is totally separate from any Social Security benefits you might qualify for in the future.

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Oh thank goodness! I was so worried I was doing something wrong by not involving Social Security somehow.

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Yeah they're totally different systems. UI is funded by employer taxes, Social Security is funded by payroll deductions from your paychecks over the years.

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This is a really common misconception! Washington ESD unemployment benefits are state-administered insurance that you earned through your previous employment. Social Security benefits are federal programs for retirement, disability, or survivors. The only connection is that both might be considered when calculating certain federal tax obligations, but the programs themselves are completely independent.

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Wait, so does collecting unemployment affect my future Social Security benefits at all?

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No, receiving unemployment won't reduce your future Social Security benefits. They track your earnings history separately for Social Security calculations.

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I had this same confusion when I first filed! Spent forever trying to figure out if I needed to contact Social Security too. But no, everything goes through Washington ESD - filing your initial claim, weekly certifications, job search requirements, everything. Social Security has nothing to do with it.

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Did you have any trouble getting through to ESD when you had questions? I keep reading about long wait times.

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Your mom might be thinking of Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) which is different from regular Social Security retirement. But even SSDI is totally separate from Washington ESD unemployment. If you're able to work and looking for work, you'd typically qualify for unemployment, not disability benefits.

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Good point about SSDI. You generally can't collect both unemployment and disability at the same time since unemployment requires you to be able and available for work.

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That makes sense. I'm definitely able to work, just can't find anything yet in my field.

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totally separate things!! i collect unemployment right now and my social security statement online shows my earnings history but nothing about UI benefits. they dont even talk to each other as far as i can tell

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Same here. Been on unemployment twice in the past five years and it never showed up anywhere on my Social Security records.

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That's correct - unemployment benefits aren't considered wages for Social Security purposes, so they don't appear on your earnings record.

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I think the confusion comes from the fact that both are government benefits, but Washington ESD is state-level and Social Security is federal. Plus they both help people who can't work for different reasons - unemployment for people who lost jobs, Social Security for retirement or disability.

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That explains why my mom was confused. She probably just lumped all government assistance together in her mind.

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Yeah, older generations sometimes think all government benefits are connected somehow. My dad was the same way when I filed for unemployment.

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Just to add some specifics - Washington ESD unemployment is funded through taxes employers pay (SUTA - State Unemployment Tax Act). Social Security is funded through FICA taxes that come out of your paycheck. Completely different funding sources, completely different purposes.

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This is really helpful info. I never understood where unemployment funding actually came from.

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Yeah, that's why there's no employee contribution for unemployment insurance - it's all on the employer side. Your Social Security taxes are split between you and your employer though.

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Been collecting unemployment for 8 weeks now and can confirm - zero interaction with Social Security. Everything is through the ESD website, weekly claims, job search logs, all of it. Your mom probably just doesn't understand how the system works.

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How has the weekly claim process been for you? I just filed my first one yesterday.

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Pretty straightforward once you get the hang of it. Just make sure you keep track of your job search activities - they require 3 per week and they do audit sometimes.

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Wait, is it still 3 job search activities per week? I thought they changed it recently.

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To answer the job search question - yes, it's still 3 verifiable job search activities per week for most claimants in Washington. You need to log them in your WorkSourceWA account and keep records in case of an audit. This requirement is part of the unemployment system, not Social Security.

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Thanks for clarifying! I've been doing 3 but wasn't sure if that was still current.

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Good to know about WorkSourceWA. I registered but haven't really used it much yet.

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I work in HR and deal with both unemployment and Social Security issues regularly. They are definitely separate systems with separate rules, eligibility requirements, and benefit calculations. When someone leaves our company, we report their wages to ESD for unemployment purposes and separately report to Social Security for retirement benefit calculations.

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That's really helpful perspective from the employer side. So companies have to deal with both systems but separately?

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Exactly. We pay unemployment taxes to the state and Social Security taxes to the federal government. When former employees file unemployment claims, we only interact with ESD, never Social Security.

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How does that work exactly? Do they just keep calling for you or something?

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Yeah basically. You give them your info and they handle the calling and waiting, then connect you when they get an agent on the line. Saved me hours of frustration.

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Just want to emphasize again that these are totally different programs. I'm actually collecting both unemployment (because I lost my job) and Social Security survivor benefits (because my husband passed away). The Social Security Administration doesn't care that I'm getting unemployment, and ESD doesn't care about my survivor benefits. They don't affect each other at all.

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I'm sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing that example though - it really helps clarify that they're independent.

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That's a great real-world example of how the systems don't interact. Thanks for sharing.

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The only time these might intersect is for tax purposes at year end. Both unemployment benefits and Social Security benefits can be taxable income depending on your total income level. But the programs themselves remain completely separate.

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Good point about taxes. I'll need to remember that when filing next year.

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Yeah, you'll get separate tax documents too - 1099-G from ESD for unemployment and 1099-SSA from Social Security if you receive those benefits.

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I think part of the confusion is that both programs started around the same time historically - Social Security Act of 1935 included provisions for unemployment insurance. But they were always designed as separate programs administered at different levels of government.

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Interesting historical context! I never knew they were part of the same original legislation.

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Yeah, but even from the beginning, unemployment was meant to be administered by states while Social Security was federal. Washington ESD is our state's implementation of that federal framework.

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Bottom line - file your unemployment claim through Washington ESD, do your weekly certifications, follow the job search requirements, and don't worry about Social Security at all unless you're also eligible for retirement or disability benefits for completely separate reasons.

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Perfect summary! This thread has been incredibly helpful. I feel much more confident about my claim now.

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Glad we could help clear up the confusion! It's actually pretty common for people to think all government benefits are connected somehow.

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One more thing - if your claim gets held up in adjudication or you have issues, that's all handled through ESD's adjudication process. Social Security has their own appeals process for their benefits, but it's completely unrelated to unemployment appeals.

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Hopefully I won't need to worry about adjudication, but good to know it's all through ESD if issues come up.

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If you do run into adjudication delays, that's another time when something like Claimyr might be helpful for actually reaching someone at ESD to check on status.

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This has been such a helpful thread! I had some of the same confusion when I first started collecting unemployment. It's crazy how many people think it's all connected to Social Security when it's really a completely separate state insurance program.

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Right? I'm so glad I asked here instead of continuing to worry about it. Everyone's been super helpful.

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That's what this community is for! We've all been through the unemployment system and know how confusing it can be at first.

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Final note - keep all your ESD correspondence and records separate from any Social Security paperwork you might have. They're different agencies, different programs, different requirements. Keeping them organized separately will save you headaches down the road.

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Great advice about keeping records separate. I'll set up different folders for everything.

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Smart organization tip! I learned that the hard way when I was trying to find specific ESD documents mixed in with other paperwork.

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