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Jasmine Hernandez

Is unemployment federal or state controlled in Washington ESD system?

I'm really confused about how the unemployment system works here in Washington. Is unemployment insurance handled by the federal government or is it all controlled by the state? I keep seeing references to both federal and Washington ESD rules when I'm trying to understand my claim. My friend in California has totally different requirements than what I'm seeing on the Washington ESD website. Can someone explain how this actually works?

Unemployment is actually a joint federal-state program. The federal government sets basic guidelines through the Department of Labor, but each state runs its own program with their own specific rules. Washington ESD administers our state program, which is why your friend in California has different requirements - each state can set their own benefit amounts, eligibility rules, and job search requirements within the federal framework.

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That makes sense! So the weekly benefit amount and how long I can collect is all determined by Washington state rules?

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Exactly. Washington sets the maximum weekly benefit amount, the duration of benefits, and specific requirements like how many job contacts you need to make each week.

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yeah its confusing as hell. i thought it was all federal too until i had to deal with washington esd last year. every state does their own thing basically

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Did you have any issues with Washington ESD when you filed? I'm worried about making mistakes on my application.

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honestly yeah, had some problems getting through to them on the phone when my claim got stuck

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The federal government provides some funding and sets minimum standards, but Washington ESD handles all the day-to-day operations. This includes processing claims, determining eligibility, conducting adjudication when there are issues, and managing the job search requirements. The federal oversight mainly comes into play during recessions when extended benefits might be available.

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What happens if you move to another state while collecting unemployment? Do you have to start over with that state's system?

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Good question! You typically continue with the state where you initially filed (Washington ESD in this case) even if you move, but there are specific procedures you need to follow to maintain eligibility.

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Wow, that's really helpful to know. I might need to relocate for work opportunities.

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I had such a hard time reaching Washington ESD when I needed to clarify some federal vs state rules about my claim. Spent hours on hold and kept getting disconnected. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual agent. They have a video demo showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Made the whole process so much easier when I needed to understand which rules applied to my specific situation.

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Really? How does that work exactly? I'm already dreading having to call Washington ESD if I run into problems.

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It basically helps you navigate their phone system and gets you connected to an agent faster. Way better than sitting on hold for hours like I was doing before.

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sounds too good to be true... how much does something like that cost?

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It's worth checking out their site for details, but honestly after wasting so much time on hold it was a relief to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD who could explain the rules properly.

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The federal Department of Labor definitely sets some guidelines but Washington state has A LOT of discretion in how they run things. Like our job search requirements are different from other states, our benefit calculation formula is specific to Washington, and even our appeals process has state-specific procedures. The Washington ESD website has all the state-specific info you need.

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Are the job search requirements pretty strict here in Washington? I've heard different things from people.

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You need to make at least 3 job search contacts per week and keep a log. Some people think it's strict but it's pretty standard compared to other states.

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wait is it 3 contacts? i thought it was 2... now im worried i messed up my weekly claims

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I think the confusion comes from the fact that during the pandemic there were some federal programs like PUA and PEUC that were completely federal, but regular unemployment insurance has always been state-administered. Those pandemic programs are long gone now, so it's back to the normal federal-state partnership model.

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Oh that explains why I keep seeing references to federal programs online! Those must be outdated articles from the pandemic era.

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Exactly! A lot of the information online is from 2020-2021 when there were all those special federal unemployment programs. Now it's just regular state UI programs.

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the whole system is just designed to make it as hard as possible to get benefits. doesnt matter if its federal or state, they dont want to pay out

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I understand the frustration, but the system does work for most people who meet the eligibility requirements. The key is understanding the specific rules for Washington state.

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easy for you to say if you havent had your claim stuck in adjudication for weeks with no explanation

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I feel you on the adjudication delays. That's when having a way to actually reach Washington ESD becomes crucial.

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For practical purposes, what matters is that Washington ESD is your point of contact for everything related to your unemployment claim. They handle eligibility determinations, benefit calculations, job search requirement monitoring, and any appeals if your claim gets denied. The federal involvement is mostly behind the scenes in terms of funding and broad policy guidelines.

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So if I have questions about my specific claim, I definitely need to contact Washington ESD directly, not any federal agency?

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Correct. All claim-specific questions go through Washington ESD. The federal Department of Labor doesn't handle individual claims.

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Been collecting unemployment in Washington for about 8 weeks now and honestly the state-run system seems to work pretty well once you understand how it operates. The weekly claims are straightforward and the job search logging system on WorkSourceWA is actually pretty user-friendly.

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That's encouraging to hear! I haven't filed yet but I'm trying to prepare myself for the process.

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Just make sure you understand Washington's specific requirements before you file. The orientation materials on the Washington ESD website are actually pretty helpful.

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Agreed, the online system is way better than it used to be. Much easier to navigate than a few years ago.

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One thing that trips people up is that even though unemployment is state-administered, your eligibility can still be affected by federal laws. Like if you quit your job for certain reasons, there are both federal and Washington state rules that determine if you can collect benefits.

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What kind of reasons for quitting would still allow you to collect unemployment in Washington?

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Things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job duties. But Washington ESD has to determine if your specific situation meets their criteria.

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I quit due to harassment and was approved for benefits, but it took a while for them to investigate and make the determination.

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr thing I mentioned earlier - I actually used it again last week when I had questions about my continued eligibility after getting some part-time work. Instead of spending my whole afternoon on hold with Washington ESD, I was able to speak with someone in about 20 minutes and get clarification on how the partial benefits work. Definitely recommend it if you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD.

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That's really helpful, especially for those complex situations where you need to talk to an actual person who understands the Washington state rules.

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Good to know there are options if I run into issues. The thought of being stuck on hold for hours was really stressing me out.

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The federal-state partnership also means that during economic downturns, the federal government can extend benefits beyond the normal state duration. But right now we're just dealing with regular Washington state benefits which max out at 26 weeks in most cases.

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26 weeks seems like a reasonable amount of time to find new employment. Is that pretty standard across states?

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Most states offer 26 weeks, though some offer less. Washington is pretty standard in that regard.

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just to add my 2 cents - i moved here from texas and the washington esd system is way more generous with benefits. texas was a nightmare to deal with and much lower benefit amounts

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That's good to hear! I was worried about how Washington compared to other states.

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yeah washington definitely takes care of unemployed workers better than a lot of states. the benefit calculation here is pretty fair

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Bottom line: unemployment insurance is a federal-state partnership, but for all practical purposes you're dealing with Washington state rules and Washington ESD staff. The federal government provides some funding and sets minimum standards, but Washington determines your benefit amount, eligibility requirements, job search obligations, and handles all the administrative aspects of your claim.

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Perfect summary! This really clears up my confusion. Thanks everyone for all the helpful explanations.

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This thread should be pinned - great explanation of how the system actually works.

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Also worth mentioning that Washington state contributes to the unemployment insurance fund through employer taxes, which is another reason why the benefits and administration are primarily state-controlled. The federal government doesn't fund the majority of regular unemployment benefits.

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Interesting, I didn't realize the funding structure worked that way.

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Yep, it's funded through state unemployment taxes on employers, with federal involvement mainly during emergencies or extended benefit periods.

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this has been super helpful - i was getting confused by all the different information online about federal vs state unemployment rules. now i know to focus on washington esd specific info when im researching my claim

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Same here! Glad I asked this question because I was getting overwhelmed by all the conflicting information.

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The Washington ESD website really is the best source for state-specific information. I bookmark their FAQ section.

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One last thing - if you ever need to escalate an issue beyond Washington ESD, you can contact your state legislators office. They sometimes have staff who specialize in helping constituents with state agency issues. But for 99% of unemployment questions, Washington ESD is your primary resource.

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Good to know there are escalation options if needed, though hopefully I won't need them!

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Most people don't need to escalate, but it's good to know the option exists for really complex cases.

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