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Washington ESD unemployment eligibility after voluntary resignation - if an employee resigns are they eligible for unemployment

My sister just quit her job at a retail store because her manager was making the work environment really hostile. She's been there for 2 years and finally couldn't take it anymore. Now she's wondering if she can file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD since she technically resigned voluntarily. Does anyone know if Washington state allows unemployment claims when you quit your job? I thought you had to be laid off or fired to get benefits but maybe there are exceptions?

Generally speaking, if you voluntarily quit your job, you're not eligible for unemployment benefits in Washington. However, there are some exceptions called 'good cause' reasons that might qualify her. Hostile work environment could potentially be considered good cause if she can document it properly.

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What kind of documentation would she need? She has some text messages from coworkers about the manager but nothing official.

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Text messages could help but she'd need more substantial evidence - written complaints to HR, witness statements, emails, anything that shows she tried to resolve the situation before quitting.

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Washington ESD is pretty strict about voluntary quits. I quit my last job because of a toxic boss and got denied initially. Had to go through the whole appeal process which took months. Your sister needs to be prepared for a fight.

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Did you eventually win your appeal? What made the difference?

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Yeah I won but it took forever and I had to get documentation from former coworkers who witnessed the harassment. The adjudication process was a nightmare.

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She should definitely file a claim even if she's not sure about eligibility. Washington ESD will make the determination based on her specific circumstances. Good cause reasons include things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, or significant changes to job duties. The key is proving she had no reasonable alternative but to quit.

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How long does it usually take for them to make a decision on something like this?

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It varies but voluntary quit cases often go to adjudication which can take 3-6 weeks. If she needs to talk to someone at Washington ESD about her case, I'd suggest checking out claimyr.com - they help people get through to actual agents when the phone lines are swamped.

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wait so you CAN get unemployment if you quit??? I thought that was impossible. I've been staying at my horrible job because I thought I'd lose all benefits if I left

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It's not automatic - you have to prove you had good cause to quit. The bar is pretty high and most voluntary quits get denied initially.

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what counts as good cause exactly? my supervisor has been cutting my hours and making my life miserable

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I work in HR and see this situation a lot. The employee has to show they made reasonable efforts to resolve the problem before quitting. Just being unhappy with your boss isn't enough - it has to be something that would make any reasonable person quit. Harassment, discrimination, safety violations, that kind of thing.

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She did try talking to the store manager about it but nothing changed. Would that count as making reasonable efforts?

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That's a good start but she should document everything - dates, times, what was said, who was present. Washington ESD will want to see a clear pattern.

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ugh the whole system is so complicated. why can't they just tell you upfront whether you qualify or not instead of making you wait weeks for adjudication

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Because every case is different and they have to investigate the circumstances. That's why the adjudication process exists - to look at the specific facts.

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still frustrating when you need money now and have to wait forever for an answer

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Here's what I'd tell your sister: File the claim ASAP because there's a waiting period anyway. In her application, she needs to clearly explain why she quit and what good cause reasons apply. Be specific about the hostile work environment - dates, incidents, how it affected her ability to do her job.

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Should she mention that other employees have complained about this manager too?

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Absolutely. If she can get any of those employees to provide statements, that would strengthen her case significantly.

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I quit my job last year because of harassment and got approved for benefits. The key was having everything documented - emails, incident reports, witness statements. Washington ESD approved my claim after the adjudication but it took about a month.

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That's encouraging! Did you have a lawyer or did you handle it yourself?

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I handled it myself but I had to call Washington ESD multiple times to check on the status. Getting through to someone was nearly impossible until I found this service called Claimyr that helped me reach an actual person.

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The worst part about voluntary quit cases is that even if you eventually win, you don't get benefits for the time you're waiting for the decision. So you could be without income for months while they investigate.

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That's terrifying. She's already struggling to pay bills and it's only been two weeks.

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Yeah it's rough. That's why you need to file immediately and start looking for other work right away. The job search requirements still apply even during adjudication.

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Does Washington state have any specific protections for hostile work environment situations? I know some states are more lenient than others when it comes to voluntary quits.

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Washington does recognize hostile work environment as potential good cause, but you have to prove it meets the legal definition. It's not just about a mean boss - it has to be severe or pervasive conduct that would make a reasonable person quit.

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So basically you need to show it was so bad that staying wasn't a realistic option?

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this is making me think I should start documenting everything at my job just in case. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it

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Smart move. Keep copies of everything at home, not just on your work computer. Dates, times, witnesses, the whole nine yards.

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good point about keeping copies at home. I hadn't thought about them potentially cutting off my access to work email

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Has anyone here actually been denied for a voluntary quit and then won on appeal? I'm curious about the success rate because I might be in a similar situation soon.

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I was denied initially but won on appeal. The appeal process is more thorough and you get to present your case to a judge. Success rate depends on your documentation and circumstances.

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How long did the appeal take? And did you need a lawyer?

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One thing people don't realize is that Washington ESD will contact your former employer to get their side of the story. So your sister should be prepared for the company to dispute her version of events. Having independent evidence is crucial.

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Oh wow, I didn't know they contacted the employer. That makes me nervous because the company might retaliate against people who support her story.

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That's a valid concern but retaliation for participating in an unemployment investigation is illegal. Document any retaliation attempts too.

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I'm going through this exact situation right now. Filed my claim three weeks ago for voluntary quit due to harassment and still waiting for the adjudication decision. The uncertainty is killing me.

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Have you been able to get any updates on your case? Is there a way to check the status online?

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You can check basic status online but for details you need to call. I finally got through to someone using Claimyr after trying for weeks. They said my case is still under review but couldn't give me a timeline.

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The financial stress while waiting for a decision is brutal. Even if you win, you're still out of pocket for weeks or months. Really makes you think twice about quitting even when the situation is terrible.

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Exactly! My sister is already behind on rent and it's only been two weeks. The system really doesn't favor workers.

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It's designed to discourage frivolous claims but it also punishes people in genuinely bad situations. Catch-22.

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For anyone in this situation, I'd recommend starting your job search immediately even while waiting for the adjudication decision. Washington ESD requires active job search regardless of your claim status, and having income from a new job is better than waiting for benefits that might not come.

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Good point. She's been so focused on the unemployment claim that she hasn't been looking for new work as aggressively as she should.

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Yeah, and if she does get approved, she'll need to show she's been actively searching anyway. Might as well start now and potentially avoid the whole issue.

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Does anyone know if you can work part-time while your voluntary quit case is being adjudicated? Or does that hurt your chances of getting approved?

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You can work part-time but you need to report all earnings. It shouldn't hurt your case for the voluntary quit determination, but it might affect your benefit amount if you're approved.

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That's good to know. Better to have some income than none while waiting for a decision.

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The whole adjudication process feels like guilty until proven innocent. You have to prove you had good cause instead of them proving you didn't. It's backwards.

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I understand the frustration but there's a reason for it. The system is designed to prevent people from quitting jobs just to collect benefits. The burden of proof protects the integrity of the program.

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I get that but it leaves people in impossible situations. Sometimes quitting is the only reasonable option but proving it is nearly impossible.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful information. I'm going to tell my sister to file her claim right away and start gathering documentation. It sounds like she has a decent chance if she can prove the hostile work environment, but she needs to be prepared for a long fight.

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That's the right approach. The sooner she files, the sooner the process starts. And remember, even if she gets denied initially, she can still appeal.

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Good luck to her! The waiting is stressful but if she has solid documentation, she's got a fighting chance. And definitely keep that Claimyr site in mind if she needs to talk to Washington ESD - it saved me so much time and frustration.

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One last thing - make sure she keeps copies of everything she submits to Washington ESD. Sometimes documents get lost in the system and you need to resubmit. Having backups saves time and prevents delays.

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Great advice! She's pretty disorganized so I'll help her get everything scanned and saved properly.

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Smart move. Organization is key when dealing with any government agency. The more prepared you are, the smoother the process goes.

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